Here's How Donald Trump Could Become President

[SgtSpiderMan]

No, those quotes are correct and anyone can look back a couple pages and see them.

Or click the link and view them.



I never said you did.

I said you said "that's the same thing Trump just got fined for doing." in reference to Aj's post about Hillary abusing her powers and negligently compromising national security.

So if it is the same thing then Trump must have been a top federal official abusing his power of office.....right?



That's NOT the same thing as what Hillary, a top federal official who abused her power and negligently compromised national security did. Is it?

One or the other.....can't have it both ways.

Also how did he abuse the government who is the authority that Trump has absolutely NO power over?

When children are allowed to do bad things do you blame the child or the shithead parent who let them?

I'll respond to the rest of this after I'm done laughing at the bolded part. You're actually making an analogy that Trump is a child & didn't know better?

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'll respond to the rest of this after I'm done laughing at the bolded part.

I'll be shocked if you do something other than run around with your goal post.

Either they aren't the same thing or Trump was a top federal official abusing his power....which is it?

You're actually making an analogy that Trump is a child & didn't know better?

Not that he didn't know better....I've seen plenty of 5 year olds that know better.

I'm making the analogy that he doesn't have any real authority, politicians do.

That's why a politician abusing their powers is not the same thing as someone with no power trying to buy that politicians power.

Do you really not understand that politicians and officials have powers of authority that civilians do not?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I'll be shocked if you do something other than run around with your goal post.

I'm not the one moving goal posts around, that's you. I've been very consistent in what I've said.

Either they aren't the same thing or Trump was a top federal official abusing his power....which is it?

I don't have to agree with you black & white fallacy. It's your opinion that only federal officials can abuse the government, I don't agree with that and never said I subscribe to that theory. I'm sorry you think this is a black & white issue. I never said Trump was a federal official, and you claiming that I did is misquoting me.

Not that he didn't know better....I've seen plenty of 5 year olds that know better.


I'm making the analogy that he doesn't have any real authority, politicians do.

Ok, well you literally just made the analogy that Trump didn't know better and shouldn't be held responsible for his actions. Trump & Bondi are both adults and are both wrong for what they did.

That's why a politician abusing their powers is not the same thing as someone with no power trying to buy that politicians power.

Do you really not understand that politicians and officials have powers of authority that civilians do not?

That's solely your opinion and isn't a fact. I don't have to believe the things you believe.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm not the one moving goal posts around, that's you. I've been very consistent in what I've said.

LMFAO!!

It's your opinion that only federal officials can abuse the government

With regard to the power of the government hat's not an opinion, that's a fact.

Civilians simply don't have access to that power and thus can't be held accountable for it's abuse.

I never said Trump was a federal official, and you claiming that I did is misquoting me.

I never said that you did.

But you DID say he did the same thing as Clinton in DIRECT reference to her abuse of power as a government official......which isn't a misquote.

Ok, well you literally just made the analogy that Trump didn't know better and shouldn't be held responsible for his actions.

No, I literally did not. That's all made up in your head.

I made the analogy that he is in a position ABSOLUTELY DEVOID OF POWER.

Trump & Bondi are both adults and are both wrong for what they did.

Yes, but what they did is NOT the same.

The person holding office, the AUTHORITY FIGURE, is worse and holds a larger share of the shithead factor. Because they are in a position of authority.

That's solely your opinion and isn't a fact. I don't have to believe the things you believe.

Yes it is. Power of authority changes everything beyond the simple stripped down choice to do the wrong thing.

No you don't have to believe anything, but the beautiful thing about facts are is they don't care

 

[phrodeau]

John Hinckley Jr. has now been released to the streets.

Donald Trump has promised to create jobs. Maybe he'll have one for John.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

LMFAO!!



With regard to the power of the government hat's not an opinion, that's a fact.

Civilians simply don't have access to that power and thus can't be held accountable for it's abuse.

That's still your opinion. Nothing will ever change that from opinion to fact.

I never said that you did.

But you DID say he did the same thing as Clinton in DIRECT reference to her abuse of power as a government official......which isn't a misquote.

That's still you misquoting me. I asked you to show me where I said that and you couldn't come up with anything close.

No, I literally did not. That's all made up in your head.

You literally did and were directly quoted as such.

Yes, but what they did is NOT the same.

Clinton hid behind the government. Trump hid behind the government. They both did the same thing.

The person holding office, the AUTHORITY FIGURE, is worse and holds a larger share of the shithead factor. Because they are in a position of authority.

That's still your opinion. Sorry I don't accept that as being accurate.

Yes it is. Power of authority changes everything beyond the simple stripped down choice to do the wrong thing.

That's your opinion about who has power. Sorry I don't accept that as being accurate.

No you don't have to believe anything, but the beautiful thing about facts are is they don't care

You don't want to talk about facts.

 

[Conager]

Clinton did not hide behind government she was government. She was fifth in line for succession to the presidency. She was in charge of the department that she breached security for. She was in charge of the department that made decisions that benefited foreign powers that gave her foundation money.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That's still your opinion. Nothing will ever change that from opinion to fact.

Then point out civilian abuse of government power, I bet you can't show a SINGLE instance of it EVER occurring.

At the end of the day no matter what's gone on a government official ALWAYS pulls the trigger.

Civilians can NOT abuse government power, only government officials do that. It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

That's still you misquoting me.

How?

Did you or did you not say

that's the same thing Trump just got fined for doing.

In response to 4est pointing out Clinton's corruption in office?

I asked you to show me where I said that and you couldn't come up with anything close.

Asking me to show you saying something I never said you said doesn't matter, that's just you squirming.

Clinton hid behind the government. Trump hid behind the government. They both did the same thing.

No they didn't do the same thing.

Because Trump has never abused his powers as a government official.

Trump paid someone to abuse their powers to protect him, that's not the same as directly abusing the power yourself. No matter how badly you wish it was.

 

[underguy1]

It's always da big bad gubmint wot dunnit. Big bidnis is innocent always.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's always da big bad gubmint wot dunnit. Big bidnis is innocent always.

I didn't say bidniz is always innocent.

But they don't abuse the powers of government.

They can't...it's impossible for them. That's why they have to pay (corrupt) a government official to do it for them.

 

[underguy1]

Extraordinary naivety.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Extraordinary naivety.

Then you can do what no one else has and show me an example of a private business exercising force of government upon citizens then?

Just one example and I'll admit I was wrong all along.

 

[phrodeau]

Clinton did not hide behind government she was government. She was fifth in line for succession to the presidency. She was in charge of the department that she breached security for. She was in charge of the department that made decisions that benefited foreign powers that gave her foundation money.

What, she could have been President if only she had four people assassinated? Why didn't that happen?

 

[underguy1]

And the logical fallacies just keep on coming.

It's like a rhetorical sausage machine.

 

[phrodeau]

Then you can do what no one else has and show me an example of a private business exercising force of government upon citizens then?

Just one example and I'll admit I was wrong all along.

How about Halliburton?

 

[xbb]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsBl-gCXEAAu6lN.jpg

 

[Ishmael]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsBl-gCXEAAu6lN.jpg

Yeah, I saw that, heard that. I wonder if anyone bothered to tell the criminal that 'shaming' just doesn't work like it used to?

Ishmael

 

[BotanyBoy]

How about Halliburton?

They are scummy pigs at the gov. gravy trough for sure, along with a few million other companies.

But I don't know of them passing or enforcing any laws against the citizenry.

 

[toubab]

USC/LA Times

http://cesrusc.org/election/

Clinton 45.0

Trump 43.6

 

[xbb]

http://cesrusc.org/election/

Clinton 45.0

Trump 43.6

all polls show that over 60% don't trust CoffinClinton, yet she still leads

how can Americans BE THAT STUPID?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Awesome job absolving Trump of any personal responsibility for his actions.

According to you it's not Trump's fault he decided to open a "university" to scam people out of their money and that Trump decided he wouldn't make good on the contract he decided to enter into. It's not Trump's fault that Trump decided to illegally pay a republican off so that person wouldn't file charges against Trump for another illegal thing Trump chose to do.

Don't care. I'm not voting for him. And, you are still comparing apples to oranges. Your only defense for the clear and contemptible career corruption of the Clinton is one time Trump did a bad thing and therefore you have to hold her to the same standard.

I don't. All your whining and bellyaching is not going to change that fact of get me to vote against Trump.

I am voting against both of them but I am not about to validate your tortured and twisted efforts to create a false equivalency against a single act executed in the private sector where Trump can be prosecuted criminally and civilly against the ongoing corruption of the Clintons in which their allies in government simply refuse to prosecute them over in order to maintain their grip on power and the riches that flow from it.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Forget it Botany. He cannot see that he has already made our point. Trump paid a price for his misdeeds, but the Clintons, only once, paid the price and that was only in a rare moment where one of them was not in office and the Democrats did not control the Justice system and then Slick finally got nailed for lying and trying to deny a woman her right to prosecute him over his sexual predation.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Gateway Pundit has posted another clip of her having a coughing fit while answering questions only this time her handlers told her to go hide behind a conveniently placed pillar...



... nothing but lies and deceit.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

https://youtu.be/Zr1IDQ2V1eM

The case for Parkinson's...

 

[BotanyBoy]

Forget it Botany. He cannot see that he has already made our point. Trump paid a price for his misdeeds, but the Clintons, only once, paid the price and that was only in a rare moment where one of them was not in office and the Democrats did not control the Justice system and then Slick finally got nailed for lying and trying to deny a woman her right to prosecute him over his sexual predation.

Just wait for an (R) to do it....suddenly the abuse of government power will magically become a distinctly heinous act. At least until Chelsea is running then it will alllll be forgotten again. LOL