How clueless were you?

liliput1

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What’s the furthest you’ve been from fun while it was right under your nose?

Kids in my social circle have mostly started or finished college now, and so over the last couple years I’ve had a lot of time thinking about my own time there, both for reminiscing and for mining advice to pass on. And that tangented into dwelling on how many times I basically had someone have to tell me that someone was hitting on me.

After much contemplation about my missed connections during those years, I believe peak cluelessness was this:

There was a couple I had lunch with for a couple semesters. I can’t even recall their names anymore but let’s go with Cathy and Tom. Cathy was adorable. Your first read was human golden retriever, until she made dirty jokes. Very Kendra from Hailee and Kendra. I worked out they had a girlfriend girlfriend, who I also thought was nice, concurrent with them having asked me a lot of questions including ones like how do I feel about threesomes. I had by not long after that point fully worked out that Cathy had a little crush going on me. But not whether or how I intended to use this information. But this was before cellphones, on a big campus, the semester ended and we no longer were in the dorms so easy encounters dried up. I would see them at an all ages bar for games occasionally and that was it.

What that little idiot with my name didn’t know was that they took him on about three dates, with not so much as a goodnight kiss. Oops. That probably explains why we didn’t keep in touch much after we hung out a few times. Message sent and received. Sorry guys. You really were lovely. And oh my poor roommate, who just looked on in consternation.

TL;Dr I dated a throuple looking for a polycule and didn’t even notice.
 
I have worse.

I would have been about eighteen at the time. Barely past what the Americans would call second base.

My sister, nine years older than me brought a friend round to apparently show me the ropes. She was gorgeous and sexy in a scary way. So scary I went to bed (alone) early and when there was a knock on the door I pretended to be asleep. What an idiot.

In the words of the song:
I wish that I knew what I know now
When I was younger
 
One of the pieces of advice I’ve passed on is, “if a girl tells you she used to have a crush on you, she still has a crush on you, but she’s mad about it and you have to make all the moves”

One of the recipients fully went into a “wait, what??” panic after hearing this. I never got the story. Hmm, I should ask…
 
I have worse.

I would have been about eighteen at the time. Barely past what the Americans would call second base.

My sister, nine years older than me brought a friend round to apparently show me the ropes. She was gorgeous and sexy in a scary way. So scary I went to bed (alone) early and when there was a knock on the door I pretended to be asleep. What an idiot.

In the words of the song:
I wish that I knew what I know now
When I was younger
A simple song that speaks truth. I remind myself that one day, ten years from now, I’ll be looking back on today. Now I’m not younger I should be ready to be bolder.
 
Painfully clueless.

Once, a very long time ago, I had a girl invite herself to my dorm room and sit on my bed with me, chatting. It wasn't until she put a hand on my thigh and told me that she likes girls that I realized what was going on. Then I panicked and basically threw her out :(

Tried to find her the next day to apologize, but never did see her again.
 
Painfully clueless.

Once, a very long time ago, I had a girl invite herself to my dorm room and sit on my bed with me, chatting. It wasn't until she put a hand on my thigh and told me that she likes girls that I realized what was going on. Then I panicked and basically threw her out :(

Tried to find her the next day to apologize, but never did see her again.

Wouldn’t the world be a better place with more wingmen in it? Mutual friends helying you clean up your messes. And tell you when it’s over, move on.
 
Oh I was utterly profoundly clueless. A girl started chatting to me in a bar and made a comment on the size of my bulge. My friend was like oh she wanted to fuck you. I was like I thought she was just saying my jeans were too tight
I’m sure you learnt from that and react differently now 😉
 
I am definitely clueless but also doubt I have missed many opportunities as I've found my crippling shyness keeps the chances few and to be the opposite of attractive to most when chances did exist.

I did have one scenario, realized in hindsight, where I think my cluelessness was in play. I got invited to supper at a co-worker/colleague's house to meet his wife. I was working overseas and didn't know many people yet and I took this as just a friendly bit of hospitality, and I am sure that was part of it.

At the time I was aware that my friend/co-worker was battling cancer, but I wasn't of the severity (later found out it was stage 4 lymphoma). He and his wife had both been married before, and had only recently married each other (about a year+ in).

It was a lovely meal, but there were a few times I got a strange vibe, and a sort of a feeling like I was being interviewed, not just conversation. I was 32 but still a virgin at the time, and very naive.

In hindsight I think my friend was too sick to share everything he wanted to with his wife and they were looking for a safe partner to bring into the mix. I definitely think they could sense how far out of my depth and oblivious I was in the moment, and so this passed with me just remembering it fondly as a nice night with friends.

Maybe it's wishful thinking in hindsight, but I think there was something there...
 
In hindsight I think my friend was too sick to share everything he wanted to with his wife and they were looking for a safe partner to bring into the mix. I definitely think they could sense how far out of my depth and oblivious I was in the moment, and so this passed with me just remembering it fondly as a nice night with friends.

Ooooh. 💔

As for shy though, there are a few women out there who like the chase. But there’s a line at humiliating yourself to get someone. Some of those nerd girls have punched multiple v cards.

When mine asked me if we needed a condom, I rolled off her and stared at the ceiling for three eternities of residual religious guilt which were probably really 12 seconds before I said yes. She was still more than happy to continue instead of kicking me out. That girl flirted with me for like six months before I kissed her. God bless you K, wherever you are.
 
I went to a boys-only high school, but had a friend at our co-ed middle-school who was just lovely. She had thick auburn hair that never quite looked right in pony-tails, and glasses and freckles. And all through high-school we kept meeting in odd coincidental ways, but she was always charming and nothing like the popular girls who made teenage boys' lives miserable with hormone-fired complications. Fast forward a few years to when she was home from an Oxbridge University (I can't say which one, obviously) and I was out with my new fiancée. This auburn goddess in a stocking dress with auburn tresses, designer spectacles and absolutely no resemblance to the plain, dowdy little frump with braces and no real selling-points approaches us at the bar. With an exaggerated flourish she embraces me, puts her lips to my ear and whispers "You're breaking my heart" and uses my nickname to finish with "if you're ever single again please call me?"
She grabs my hand, introduces herself to my fiancée and extols my virtues and tells her how lucky she is and how long we've been friends and how I'm like an almost-twin brother to her. After a few sips of her cocktail and lots of embarrassing stories about me, my school friend excused herself. Because we're fairly unreserved by nature where I come from, hugs and kisses weren't unexpected: a big hug and kiss to the cheek for my fiancée from her new friend, and a quick farewell peck and a huge hug from her for me.
Now there's a thing about farewell kisses. Your maiden aunt can give you a big smoochy kiss (probably just before she pinches your cheek) and you can be totally fine, and a continental lady may well do it several times, so a kiss goodbye in front of my fiancée wasn't inappropriate. But an old school friend usually doesn't press the tip of her tongue between your lips for the briefest of moments when she says her farewell and gives you what you think should be an appropriate kiss goodbye, does she? There's a sweet-spot for hug duration, too; any longer and it's an embrace. My school friend hugged to the very last millisecond, and I wanted it to never end.
I can still feel that kiss, and I wonder what made me so oblivious to her charms before we became all grown-up and started adulting for real...
 
Not clueless but something even less admirable.

My college GF heard from another girl that anal sex was on another level. She left me a note one day saying "Let's."

I never did. Why? Because I was afraid that I would enjoy it and she would not (later experiences would tell me that that was very, very avoidable). Then I'd be dissatisfied that she wouldn't want to do it any more while there were girls who were thrilled to be taken that way. I didn't want us to break up.

So her anal virginity went to another guy. My loss. Her gain.
 
I went to a boys-only high school, but had a friend at our co-ed middle-school who was just lovely. She had thick auburn hair that never quite looked right in pony-tails, and glasses and freckles. And all through high-school we kept meeting in odd coincidental ways, but she was always charming and nothing like the popular girls who made teenage boys' lives miserable with hormone-fired complications. Fast forward a few years to when she was home from an Oxbridge University (I can't say which one, obviously) and I was out with my new fiancée. This auburn goddess in a stocking dress with auburn tresses, designer spectacles and absolutely no resemblance to the plain, dowdy little frump with braces and no real selling-points approaches us at the bar. With an exaggerated flourish she embraces me, puts her lips to my ear and whispers "You're breaking my heart" and uses my nickname to finish with "if you're ever single again please call me?"
She grabs my hand, introduces herself to my fiancée and extols my virtues and tells her how lucky she is and how long we've been friends and how I'm like an almost-twin brother to her. After a few sips of her cocktail and lots of embarrassing stories about me, my school friend excused herself. Because we're fairly unreserved by nature where I come from, hugs and kisses weren't unexpected: a big hug and kiss to the cheek for my fiancée from her new friend, and a quick farewell peck and a huge hug from her for me.
Now there's a thing about farewell kisses. Your maiden aunt can give you a big smoochy kiss (probably just before she pinches your cheek) and you can be totally fine, and a continental lady may well do it several times, so a kiss goodbye in front of my fiancée wasn't inappropriate. But an old school friend usually doesn't press the tip of her tongue between your lips for the briefest of moments when she says her farewell and gives you what you think should be an appropriate kiss goodbye, does she? There's a sweet-spot for hug duration, too; any longer and it's an embrace. My school friend hugged to the very last millisecond, and I wanted it to never end.
I can still feel that kiss, and I wonder what made me so oblivious to her charms before we became all grown-up and started adulting for real...
If it makes you feel better, remember that most teenage girls notice boys while the boys still think girls are gross. By the time you’ve been trying to puzzle out girls for 3 years they’ve been working on that problem for almost five.
 
A long time ago, I dated someone who insisted on going on a cruise on her own and a trip to Spain with a woman friend. On the Spanish trip she told me they met a very nice Spanish man and they stayed at his home. She said her friend probably slept with him and I wondered if she was really talking about herself. t happened while I thought we were exclusive. We also met a man our age at a theater one night. There seemed to be something going on between them and she didn’t introduce me to him.

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