How descriptive are you?

That's an interesting idea, and a nifty exercise. I wonder if you could remove the dressing table and the chair, or at least refer to them only by implication, and achieve a truly empty space.
The furniture became necessary because she'd have fallen forward onto the floor (thus introducing "floor"), and he'd have been undignified, flat on his ass on the same "floor". She looks best with her breasts swaying and the long line of her back taut like a bow, and he's a lazy bastard who likes to slow stroke himself while he watches her turn towards him with the slow turning look that she has.
 
So far my props have been a band to tie back her hair, a dressing table (but nothing described on it) for her to lean against, and a chair (by an unmentioned window) for him to sit in while he watches. A bed is implicit, but I've not described it yet.
I'm pretty light on detail most of the time. I figure that everyone knows what a bed looks like, and they probably imagine one they are familiar with. Unless there is an important detail about the bed, there's not really much point in describing it.

When I read, I really don't care much about descriptions. I'm going to imagine something different anyway, some place that I'm already familiar with. I have 4-5 stock house plans that I use when reading, all places that I've been in real life. Same with schools, every high school story takes place in my high school, and etc.

I could probably read stories set in white rooms and I might not even notice unless attention was called to it.
 
I'm pretty light on detail most of the time. I figure that everyone knows what a bed looks like, and they probably imagine one they are familiar with. Unless there is an important detail about the bed, there's not really much point in describing it.
That made me think for a second about why, with my fetish for description, I've never really thought about describing the bed. And I think my answer is that, when my characters are in the bed, they're probably not noticing it. They're focused on other things. And it'd damage the consistency of the scene for the guy having his first threesome to start thinking "golly this is a really soft mattress, and the sheets are such an interesting color!", though thinking about it a second time yeah, I can totally see someone having those intrusive thoughts mid-fuck and it coming out that way. But it's not something they'd be deliberately noticing.
 
That made me think for a second about why, with my fetish for description, I've never really thought about describing the bed. And I think my answer is that, when my characters are in the bed, they're probably not noticing it. They're focused on other things. And it'd damage the consistency of the scene for the guy having his first threesome to start thinking "golly this is a really soft mattress, and the sheets are such an interesting color!", though thinking about it a second time yeah, I can totally see someone having those intrusive thoughts mid-fuck and it coming out that way. But it's not something they'd be deliberately noticing.
Can I interest you in a 750-word story about furniture fetishists? 🤣🤣
 
I'm absolutely a #1. I can't help but visualize the apple, its color, its kinda waxy texture that reflects light in a very specific way, the way it smells, the weight and density and the woody sound it makes when you rap your knuckles on it... And for a long time I didn't realize that not everyone was like that?

So I tried this. I went with a banana instead because I didn't want to inadvertently duplicate the apple results. 😅 I found that when I off-the-cuff imagine a banana, I will envision the general basic idea of a banana. But I don't get down to the granular level of how ripe it is, whether it's green or yellow or spotted, etc.. Because the banana could be any of those things and still be a banana, and I don't feel the need to drill into it in that level of detail. I'm happy to leave the banana, well, a bit open-ended.

So I'm probably more in the 2, maybe even 3 camp here.

On the other hand, I can be a 1 and imagine things in excruciating detail if it's personally interesting to me to do so, or if I find the added detail relevant in some way. It probably is if it ties into whatever fetish I happen to be focusing on in that moment, lol. 😅 But it's more of a conscious choice I guess and something done on an as-needed basis, not a default thing.

In any case, when writing, this tendency probably leads to me being extremely descriptive with the parts I find personally interesting and underdescriptive with everything else. So counteracting this requires a bit of effort on my part, like I have to remember to do it. I also want to be intentional and figure out what ultimately needs to be described versus left to the reader's imagination, and if there are ways descriptions can be used to highlight other aspects of the story instead of existing in a vacuum.
 
I'm happy to leave the banana, well, a bit open-ended.
🤣🤣 See I can't do that, the banana is instantly in my head, it's a little over-ripe, the stem is dark and woody, I can smell it, I wouldn't want to eat it plain but it would still be really good sliced up on a bowl of corn flakes 😍
 
A couple of weeks ago @AG31 wondered if you can write a story without plot or setting. That got me intrigued, and my latest WIP is trying exactly that, two nameless people "somewhere", where only their intimacy is happening.

So far my props have been a band to tie back her hair, a dressing table (but nothing described on it) for her to lean against, and a chair (by an unmentioned window) for him to sit in while he watches. A bed is implicit, but I've not described it yet.

As usual with me, I've been distracted by two 750 Word stories, but I must get back to it, to see where it leads me.
Can't wait for all three W'sIP!
 
So counteracting this requires a bit of effort on my part, like I have to remember to do it.
But why would you want to add description that doesn't naturally fit into your sense of the story? You'd be in danger of watering down your unique impact, don't you think?
 
I just visited (re-visited?) this thread today because I was mentioned. I can't believe I didn't reply to it or even put a watch on it. Looking forward to reading all the replies. For now, here are my answers.
So this got me thinking: do you prefer to describe your settings in detail, or do you sketch the outlines and hope the reader picks up on the mood you're building and fills in the rest? How do you feel it impacts your stories, and do you think they'd work better or worse if you went the other way? Have you had any feedback from readers one way or the other? Have you ever deliberately tried to go against your natural preference?
Sketch the outlines in hopes that the reader will be just oriented enough to proceed, but will not be distracted from the central emotions and sensations by the surrounding setting.
Have you ever read a story (here or elsewhere) that captured your imagination in only a few lines, and was that because of the detail or because of the mood?
Absolutely. Many times. I love getting hooked that way.
Have you ever read a story that seemed to want to do the one or the other, but fell short?
I'm sure I have, but, not surprisingly, they were un-memorable.
Do you have any particular tricks that you use for making your descriptions vivid? For making your moods more real? Any words or phrases you find yourself using again and again? Any objects you tend to describe in more detail than others?
No. No tricks. Just concentrate on the MC's experience and add the minimum necessary for setting.
 
The description I gave of the real-world Malibu house I used for my novel no longer fits:



As of last week, a better description would be:

We drive past warning signs at the unmanned barricade and head a few miles up a narrow canyon of charred tree skeletons -a few tendrils of smoke still rise from smoldering root systems. The sickening smell of devastation floods the car in spite of the closed air vents. The clicker on the sun-visor is useless as the iron gate lays aside, wrecked from being forced open by heavy equipment to access the long switchback driveway. At the top, where once stood a modern stone and stucco house with a red-tile roof, is now the remains of the multi-level five-bedroom, collapsed into the hillside under a pile of terracotta tiles. The backyard pool is dark with ash and cinders, the recently trimmed quarter acre of lawn is beginning to brown from lack of watering. All that remains of the huge four bay garage is the five charged stone pillars, beside them the remains of a formerly prized 1986 Porsche 928s.
So sad! My images of the devestation are of the coast. Everytime I see clips I'm reminded of driving by all those packed small houses right up against the water, so different from the New England coast. Can't believe they were wiped out.
 
So I saw this image online a couple of years ago when John Green shared it, and it sort of blew my mind. When you think of "An Apple," what happens in your brain? Do you visualize something, or do you just hold an abstract concept of an apple? And if you visualize something, what is it?

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I'm absolutely a #1. I can't help but visualize the apple, its color, its kinda waxy texture that reflects light in a very specific way, the way it smells, the weight and density and the woody sound it makes when you rap your knuckles on it... And for a long time I didn't realize that not everyone was like that?

So I think that's how I tend to write. I've gotten feedback on some of my stories that I sometimes spend too much time talking about how characters look, or what they're wearing, or what their room is like, but holding those things in my head is the only way I can conceive of a character or write about them.

I have to work really hard to NOT use descriptive language, in things like a 750-word short. But even though I don't have the word count to spell it out, I've still got the image in my head. I know exactly what Molly Moore the lingerie sales assistant looks like, even though I didn't describe her in the slightest 😅

On the other hand I've also gotten positive feedback that my descriptions paint really vibrant mental images for some people, and really puts a scene in their head. so I think maybe it's just a difference in how people visualize and what they want in a story? :unsure:
That's a great visual! I vacillate between 4 and 5.
 
I think too much description can swiftly bore the reader.

Personally, I hate long expositions and descriptions and I don't consider them to be good writing, although I am always ready to hear some counter-arguments.
There's a long running British detective series (can't remember which one), which featured vivid descriptions of the country side. That was OK for most of the series, but then it began to feel like a self parody. "Enough!" says I to myself. This sounds like a travelogue. Interestingly, at the end of the book, in the acknowledgements, the author thanks those readers who praised his descriptions and asked for more. So, there are folks out there who can provide counter arguments, but, personally, I'm with you.
 
There's a long running British detective series (can't remember which one), which featured vivid descriptions of the country side. That was OK for most of the series, but then it began to feel like a self parody. "Enough!" says I to myself. This sounds like a travelogue. Interestingly, at the end of the book, in the acknowledgements, the author thanks those readers who praised his descriptions and asked for more. So, there are folks out there who can provide counter arguments, but, personally, I'm with you.
As I said before, I generally only have a problem with overly detailed descriptions that span over multiple paragraphs. But even in those cases, I acknowledge and respect such a writing style, as long as the person, scene, or object being described is somehow important for the story.

Some writers like to leave the most to the readers' imagination, and some like to describe in detail. Both approaches are fine for me. But if the author is describing in detail some passing tree or house just for the sake of description, I think that's bad writing.

Once again, I would love to hear it if someone has a different opinion.
 
Sketch the outlines in hopes that the reader will be just oriented enough to proceed, but will not be distracted from the central emotions and sensations by the surrounding setting.
After musing about this off and on for a couple of hours, I'm able to put a finer point on it.

I confine my descriptions to things the MC is paying attention to.
Oh, dear. I can't stand it. I confine my descriptions to things to which the MC is paying attention.
 
But why would you want to add description that doesn't naturally fit into your sense of the story? You'd be in danger of watering down your unique impact, don't you think?
I don't think so. The added description can naturally fit in, as well as help me to slow down and pace the story a little bit better. I just have to remember to take the time to actually do it. 😅
 
Do you visualize something, or do you just hold an abstract concept of an apple? And if you visualize something, what is it?

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I'm absolutely a #1. I can't help but visualize the apple, its color, its kinda waxy texture that reflects light in a very specific way, the way it smells, the weight and density and the woody sound it makes when you rap your knuckles on it... And for a long time I didn't realize that not everyone was like that?
I'm capable of that level of visualization, but default to "generic apple." Not abstract or Platonic, but generic.

My mental apple changes to suit the conditions or the requirements or the thought process. Like Chekov's Gun, when there's a reason to have a mental representation of the details, then they will manifest.

Same in a story - a generic or even Platonic apple is fine some of the time, and other times writing about the vivid apple experience is called for. It just all depends. But I am a fan of Chekov's Gun - the banana is not going to be over-ripe and spotted without a reason. The apple is not going to have its olfactory qualities or the level of blemish on its peel or its lustre in the prevailing illumination conditions described without a reason.
 
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