How do Christians negatively affect your life?

The thread starter said today that he's fine with Scientology infiltrating government, as long as Scientologists "vote Republican": https://forum.literotica.com/threads/next-up-for-maga-govt-the-infiltration-of-scientology.1647388/

Scientologists mock and hate on Christians constantly.

So, his complaints in here about people "hating Christians" are just another example of the fake outrage he's demonstrated for years.

Carry on.

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Yes I did. You hate me and if I decided to vote democrat, you would be fine with it. Amirite? Lol. :)
 
Umm...hell no. Of course I wouldn't be.

Are you senile?

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The majority of Muslim voters in the US vote democrat. Do you approve of the way Muslims treat gays and women? I'll hang up and listen to your response :)
 
The majority of Muslim voters in the US vote democrat.

Hmm...really?

It isn't 1994 anymore. Better go read up on this.

Do you approve of the way Muslims treat gays and women?

If a Muslim person treats gays and women poorly, then I don't want their vote.

Whereas, if a person spit in your face for being a Christian, you would still want their vote as long as they voted your way.

That is the difference between you and me, and one of the things which makes you garbage by comparison.

:)
 
Let’s be honest - all organised religion of every denomination is counter productive to 21st century. They are bygones of a an era of ignorance. Used for control and amassing wealth from the stupid.

All religions in their own way sow social divisions that are often exploited to cause conflict. Religions also attempt to stifle scientific research and understanding, and individual freedoms (women, lgbtq). In almost all cases religions justify abuse and violence under interpretations of their teachings.

you can’t single any one religion out to be ‘better’ than another. They are all morally and socially corrupt.
 
Let’s be honest - all organised religion of every denomination is counter productive to 21st century. They are bygones of a an era of ignorance.

Then why was the 21st century dependent on it and going down the shitter faster than ever after 3 generations of trying to get rid of it???

you can’t single any one religion out to be ‘better’ than another.

Sure you can, by the civilization they build.

They are all morally and socially corrupt.

Maybe, but you can't name a single civilization worth a shit that didn't depend on one.
 
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Like you said, the candy manufacturers got to it!

But they still sell a lot of candy at Christmas.

And Easter too.

Come to think of it, the Christians took over the Vernal Equinox fertility celebration too (think rabbits and eggs) and dumped all this gory crucifixion stuff over it.

When rabbits start rising from the dead, they can have their own Easter. :)
Oh, but they had their Vernal Equinox celebrations, long before the time of Jesus!
Come to think of it, the Christians appropriated all the pagan "four quarters."
Christmas at the Winter Solstice, from Yule or Saturnalia.
Michaelmas at the Autumnal Equinox, from Harvest Home, Pomona or (for those modern pagans) "Burning Man!"
St. John's Day (Nativity of John the Baptist) at the Summer Solstice, from Litha, Vesta
And, of course Easter at the Vernal Equinox, from Ostara, the goddess Eostre.

Just think, though: in a couple of thousand years new religions will be devised, layering their own rituals over the holidays I've just described.

(I hope not, of course, as religion has profoundly damaged humanity, and with luck, some day, we may have shucked off these ancient superstitions)

Anyway, don't forget that old internet meme: "Easter is cancelled, the body wasn't hidden well enough!"
 
Oh, but they had their Vernal Equinox celebrations, long before the time of Jesus!
Come to think of it, the Christians appropriated all the pagan "four quarters."
Christmas at the Winter Solstice, from Yule or Saturnalia.
Michaelmas at the Autumnal Equinox, from Harvest Home, Pomona or (for those modern pagans) "Burning Man!"
St. John's Day (Nativity of John the Baptist) at the Summer Solstice, from Litha, Vesta
And, of course Easter at the Vernal Equinox, from Ostara, the goddess Eostre.

Just think, though: in a couple of thousand years new religions will be devised, layering their own rituals over the holidays I've just described.

(I hope not, of course, as religion has profoundly damaged humanity, and with luck, some day, we may have shucked off these ancient superstitions)

Anyway, don't forget that old internet meme: "Easter is cancelled, the body wasn't hidden well enough!"

More "bad things!!" .......

Can you name a single civilization that rises or maintains without religion???
 
Maybe, but you can't name a single civilization worth a shit that didn't depend on one.
You're just being silly. People have devised religions for millennia. All civilisations have them. If you're going to claim that civilisations benefit from having religions, you're going to have to give reasons, otherwise one could just as easily say, "You can't name a single civilization that didn't have cats."
 
You're just being silly.

By acknowledging recorded history of human civilization instead of ignoring it for my own hatred of religion??

Ok.

People have devised religions for millennia. All civilisations have them.

Yea exactly, and every civilization that tries to get rid of theirs turns into a 3rd world shit hole ........what's that tell you??


If you're going to claim that civilisations benefit from having religions, you're going to have to give reasons, otherwise one could just as easily say, "You can't name a single civilization that didn't have cats."

No...because cats don't provide social coheasion or result in high trust societies the way religion does.

We already went throught this yesterday, you lost bigly and got mad. Do you really need to go through it all over again or can you just admit that despite your own personal biases the social structure and cohesion religion provides is obviously an important component to a functioning prosperous civilization??
 
Let’s be honest - all organised religion of every denomination is counter productive to 21st century. They are bygones of a an era of ignorance. Used for control and amassing wealth from the stupid.

All religions in their own way sow social divisions that are often exploited to cause conflict. Religions also attempt to stifle scientific research and understanding, and individual freedoms (women, lgbtq). In almost all cases religions justify abuse and violence under interpretations of their teachings.

you can’t single any one religion out to be ‘better’ than another. They are all morally and socially corrupt.
Corruption is a condition of all human social organizations, all religions, all political parties, anything with any type of power.
 
Hel_Books said:
Oh, but they had their Vernal Equinox celebrations, long before the time of Jesus!
Come to think of it, the Christians appropriated all the pagan "four quarters."
Christmas at the Winter Solstice, from Yule or Saturnalia.
Michaelmas at the Autumnal Equinox, from Harvest Home, Pomona or (for those modern pagans) "Burning Man!"
St. John's Day (Nativity of John the Baptist) at the Summer Solstice, from Litha, Vesta
And, of course Easter at the Vernal Equinox, from Ostara, the goddess Eostre.

Just think, though: in a couple of thousand years new religions will be devised, layering their own rituals over the holidays I've just described.

(I hope not, of course, as religion has profoundly damaged humanity, and with luck, some day, we may have shucked off these ancient superstitions)

Anyway, don't forget that old internet meme: "Easter is cancelled, the body wasn't hidden well enough!"

More "bad things!!" .......

Can you name a single civilization that rises or maintains without religion???
Are Saturnalia or Litha "bad things"?

Anyway, you're just being silly. People have devised religions for millennia. All civilisations have had them (created in man's own vengeful, prideful image, of course!). If you're going to claim that civilisations benefit from having religions, you're going to have to give reasons, otherwise one could just as easily say, "You can't name a single civilization that didn't have cats."
 
No...because cats don't provide social coheasion. We already went throught this yesterday, you lost bigly.
Not a good idea to bring up "social cohesion"! Consider Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Sri Lanka, the border between India and Pakistan, the border between Bangladesh and Myanmar . . .
 
Anyway, you're just being silly.

By acknowledging the obvious and not denying reality because YOU are blinded by your hatred of religion??

Ok.

People have devised religions for millennia. All civilisations have had them (created in man's own vengeful, prideful image, of course!).

Yup, can't have a civilization without it.

What's thtat tell you??

If you're going to claim that civilisations benefit from having religions, you're going to have to give reasons, otherwise one could just as easily say, "You can't name a single civilization that didn't have cats."

No, because again, cats don't provide social coheasion and structure critical to the rise and perpetuation of civilzation. And it's not just beneficial it's a core component.

You're using a logical fallacy (false equivalency) to try and prove reality wrong because you hate religion. A proper comparison would be "YOu can't name a single civilization that didn't have government." and you'd be absolutely right. Like religion government is REQUIRED for civilization.

Without either you get a 3rd world shit hole 1 step off the jungle.
 
Hel_Books said:
If you're going to claim that civilisations benefit from having religions, you're going to have to give reasons, otherwise one could just as easily say, "You can't name a single civilization that didn't have cats."

We already went throught this yesterday, you lost bigly and got mad. Do you really need to go through it all over again or can you just admit that despite your own personal biases the social structure and cohesion religion provides is obviously an important component to a functioning prosperous civilization??
You still haven't given any benefits society derives from having religion. I've shown you many instances of suffering that would not have happened but for religious belief. You've mumbled something about "social cohesion" but you know that's nonsense: just look at the Gaza Strip or, in your own country, Christian attitudes towards Jews (and now towards Moslem immigrants - and don't forget all those nasty things they said about Nikki Haley, originally of the Sikh faith!)
 
Not a good idea to bring up "social cohesion"! Consider Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Sri Lanka, the border between India and Pakistan, the border between Bangladesh and Myanmar . . .

Compare that to the godless savages of the jungle and lawless 3rd world holes where there is ZERO.

It's laughable that you try to use any of those to prove your point is wild. It's like you're just totally unaware of the world outside of /ratheism
 
You still haven't given any benefits society derives from having religion.

Having society AT ALL is the benefit of religion.

Much like government, despite it's flaws and corruption, it's a nessecary ingredient.

You don't get to have a society or civilization without it. :D
 
You're using a logical fallacy (false equivalency) to try and prove reality wrong because you hate religion. A proper comparison would be "YOu can't name a single civilization that didn't have government." and you'd be absolutely right. Like religion government is REQUIRED for civilization.
On the contrary, one can name many benefits from government!

Just look at your own Constitution, specifically the First Amendment. It was put in to try to prevent the strife that results from religion. Because, you know, religion is detrimental to social cohesion!

I'm going to guess that you adhere to a religion but are ashamed of all the evil it (and other religions) have brought into the world and are desperate to find some justification for the invention of religious belief by humanity.

But it's just a guess. Try and prove it wrong.
 
Hel_Books said:
Not a good idea to bring up "social cohesion"! Consider Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Sri Lanka, the border between India and Pakistan, the border between Bangladesh and Myanmar . . .

Compare that to the godless savages of the jungle
I'll grant you that the Aztecs were savages. Their religious rituals required tearing out the heart of . . .

Oh, wait, that doesn't help your argument about religion being a good thing, does it?
 
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