How does an aspiring writer deal with negative comments for cuckold stories

[Jake_Raazor]

Published an episode of a cuckold series in LW rather than Fetish when I became aware that was the better category. All I can advise is to go for it in LW. You can delete the boring abusive comments and take the piss out of the rest. I mean, the story was called 'Tales of the Cuckold'. Huge fucking clue in the title, so why the fuck are these morons reading it?

Also, don't worry about scores or ratings. My story settled down at 2.92. Minor miracle it scored that high.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

I have submitted 63 stories, with one pending. 59 of these have ratings higher than 4.5 and hold the hot red "H".

2 of the 4 lower rated stories are the only ones I ever submitted to the Loving Wives category (4.19 and 4.16). This should reinforce the suggestion by others for you to consider a different category than LW if you want your writing to be appreciated more fully.

 

[SimonDoom]

I have submitted 63 stories, with one pending. 59 of these have ratings higher than 4.5 and hold the hot red "H".

2 of the 4 lower rated stories are the only ones I ever submitted to the Loving Wives category (4.19 and 4.16). This should reinforce the suggestion by others for you to consider a different category than LW if you want your writing to be appreciated more fully.

Except that the number rating does NOT accurately reflect the number of people who appreciate your story. If you post a cuckold story in Loving Wives, you will have more haters, to be sure, but you also will have a bigger audience of people who like your story.

You have to ask yourself which scenario you would prefer:

A) Post in Loving Wives, and your story might get 50,000 views, with a large audience of readers who like your story, but a small but nasty contingent of readers who downvote it, and the score is 4.1.

B) Post in another category, and your story might get 10,000 views, with a smaller audience of readers who like your story, but also a much smaller contingent of negative readers, and a score of 4.6.

 

[other2other1]

As someone who writes in the Loving Wives Category, I don't tend to write cuckold stories, but I certainly get my fair share of negative feedback. I have noticed that a lot of the haters in stories tend to be Anonymous users. Good constructive feedback always comes from named users, and like it or hate my story they tend to be helpful.

One of the things that I do like about the Loving Wives category is that everyone's passions are usually pretty clear. Even with a negative comment you can still look at it with a critical eye that can help inform your writing. Lets face it, Loving Wives is all about the passion and emotion, screaming and usually bad things happening to the Main Character.

If your writing Cuckold stories, your going to get a more negative field of comments. I talk with thee different writers about plot lines and two of those authors have a tendency to write more cuckold stories. They know what feedback their going to get, but I encourage them to write their passion regardless. The one thing that I do encourage them to do, is make sure they get their story tags in. If you are going to write a cuckold story or something that is going to push our anonymous crowd to foam at the mouth, at least let them know what they are getting into before they start reading.

As for comments, I tend to leave them there unless they are personal attacks or abusive towards someone. If you don't like my stories thats fine by me. I have something to say and I want to express myself so I will regardless of rating or comments

 

[Luv4hotwives]

I’ve dealt with my fair share of negativity, it’s unavoidable with cuckold stories. I tried disclaimers for a short time where I very explicitly stated what the content was so haters wouldn’t waste their time… I had people tell me they immediately 1 starred it and my other stories without reading them when they read the disclaimer! Lol! That’s how much they hate cuckold content!!

Obviously it’s touchy content for lots of guys and some women. They simply hate that it even exists and want to let everyone know.

I now avoid LW. I know I’ll get more readers if I did post there, but I still lack the confidence as a writer to handle that level of negativity. At some point that may change, but as I develop I try to stick to the fetish category which is less hostile to keep my confidence up.

But you should know the mods will post it to another category than the one you selected if they think it’s warranted. I’ve had them put some in the exhibition category, which is a close 2nd to fetish when it comes to welcoming cuckold stuff.

There is one thing that I discovered filters out the negativity and that’s multi part stories. Haters are less likely to come back for part 4.. In fact, the folks that enjoy your stories will be the ones reading those. So keep that in mind.

And while I generally ignore negative comments, if something does get to me then I delete it. I still keep comments on though, because you will get constructive feedback as well.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

Except that the number rating does NOT accurately reflect the number of people who appreciate your story. If you post a cuckold story in Loving Wives, you will have more haters, to be sure, but you also will have a bigger audience of people who like your story.

You have to ask yourself which scenario you would prefer:

A) Post in Loving Wives, and your story might get 50,000 views, with a large audience of readers who like your story, but a small but nasty contingent of readers who downvote it, and the score is 4.1.

B) Post in another category, and your story might get 10,000 views, with a smaller audience of readers who like your story, but also a much smaller contingent of negative readers, and a score of 4.6.

True, however there are factors other than the category which also impact views, rating and comments. One major thing that impacts these is whether the story is a single submission or multi-part. I only look at the data on my own stories and what that tells me relative to where I get the most comments on average:

Celebrity (4 stories): Average Views = 4,933 / Average Comments = 2 / Percentage of comments to views = 0.035%

Loving Wives (2 stories): Average Views = 35,837 / Average Comments = 42 / Percentage of comments to views = 0.117%

Novels (54 parts of 6 stories): Average Views = 22,915 / Average Comments = 10 / Percentage of comments to views = 0.044%

Romance (2 stories): Average Views = 10,654 / Average Comments = 23 / Percentage of comments to views = 0.211%

With the multi-part stories in "Novels and Novellas", there is typically a peak in the comments at the beginning and the end, but the views and ratings stay pretty consistent through the series. Posts in all the other categories are single submissions so a comparison between these is more relevant to your point about readers in different categories leaving comments. In my experience, the "Romance" category has the highest average number of readers who comment.

 

[Grendelpuppy]

Haters going to hate.

 

[ChuckandAndrea]

Ive been posting stories in LW and have noticed a clear trend... there is quite literally a loser brigade that sits there waiting for a new cuckold story to post just so they can downvote it.

New 15k word story posts and within the first hour, three 1* ratings. Then people actually start reading and the rating sloooowly goes up. Like weeks... as views decline, rating goes way up.

Comments are similar... big wave of sad dudes hate-wanking and feeling bad for themselves... followed by people who actually like the genre (or aren't pretending to hate it).

My goal is eyeballs and feedback; getting better. More eyeballs=more feedback. Plus, its just where these stories belong per category descriptions.

I first started writing in LW as an experiment in writing from the female perspective and subject matter seemed fitting... plus, eyeballs. Now Im addicted. I love the hate. Its such a wide open window to these sad fucks lives... even inspired me to write something from their perspective - while thoroughly trashing them (currently pending).

But, I'm naturally a confrontational person. Ill argue about anything, so I dont delete comments and jump into the fray myself. If sad dudes with angry keyboards are gonna bother you, LW may not be for you. If high ratings and pats on the back are important, then again, LW is gonna be tough. If max eyeballs is your goal, LW makes sense.

 

[njlauren]

Negative comments and low ratings are part for the course with cuckold stories, there are idiot readers there that don't even read the story and trash it, rage against it..and what they say makes 0 sense. Had a part 1 get trashed, called husband a cuck, when there was a) a part2 and b) in part 2, he dumps the wife. Some people write deliberately inflammatory stories to piss off the idiots.

The sad truth is that yes, people read the cuckold stories , they read all the stories there and then go off on the ones that they don't like the content. We have the ones who think anything but a husband and wife having sex once a week in the dark (the Catholic Forum I call them) is vile, swinging or open marriages or poly is not allowed, cuckolding even if it is loving and consensual is evil, anything that has loving wives who are same sex, or might involve a trans spouse, get raged at.

I agree with others, I would put it in LW and take your chances. Yes, you will get the raging idiots, you wlll get nasty comments , be told to kill yourself, etc, etc, but in the end it is your story. If you want to get 4.5, it likely won't happen, but the thing is you should be writing for yourself. Yeah, it is great to get high rated story, but again you should write what you want, and my take is if some people enjoy it, then it is worth it.

Negative comments fall into multiple categories. When people talk about the characters and say "they are cardboard", to me that is legitimate criticism, it means you have not described them to that person's satisfaction. Too long sentences, clipped dialog or too long dialog, a point that makes no logical sense, all that can help improve your writing.

On the other hand , Some idiot raging on how marriage is between a man and a woman, yada yada, is only good for comic relief (among other things, like those who really rage, this is fiction/fantasy writing, not the real world). It is amusing because what the hell is a religious right type doing on an erotic fiction site?

Want to know the value of all the comments? They give you insight into the way people are when they are hidden/anonymous, and it can be really useful when writing stories to use the personality of the commenters as the basis for characters. Heck, I have a story on SOL (that I sadly can't publish here) called "February Oh February" , a satire on February Sucks, where the main character is based on someone well known for his comments in the LW area *lol*.

 

[ChuckandAndrea]

First comment on my most recently posted story:

1 star without reading it.

 

[njlauren]

Yep, you got it, that is what is out there. For me, if I get comments from people who actually have a name (note most of the ones with the most vile comments are anons; I wrote a really scathing comment against an anon who said some vile things about a story, the bozo sent me a note, said he was a published author on Lit but didn't want to use it because he would be retaliated against(!) that might not like the story but say way, who critique writing style, character development, even if they don't like it it is valuable. Of course, getting people who like it and encourage more is great, too.

My one fear is that the comments on here have gotten so bad, and some really vile stuff, that they in effect will decide what is published here, that anything that can inflame the 'anons' will be rejected, that would be sad.

 

[gordo12]

Loving Wives (2 stories): Average Views = 35,837 / Average Comments = 42 / Percentage of comments to views = 0.117%

That's actually a low percentage for comments by the way.

But seriously. 35,000 views and everybody is worried by a few negative comments out of 42. Give your heads a shake. It's not even a fart in a hurricane.

 

[ChuckandAndrea]

Want to know the value of all the comments? They give you insight into the way people are when they are hidden/anonymous, and it can be really useful when writing stories to use the personality of the commenters as the basis for characters. Heck, I have a story on SOL (that I sadly can't publish here) called "February Oh February" , a satire on February Sucks, where the main character is based on someone well known for his comments in the LW area *lol*.

I got one pending that takes aim at these guys... Thinking about making it a series. I'd like to read yours - I don't even know what SOL is other than (shit out of luck - one of my old man's favorite sayings lol). Can you link?

 

[gordo12]

My one fear is that the comments on here have gotten so bad, and some really vile stuff, that they in effect will decide what is published here, that anything that can inflame the 'anons' will be rejected, that would be sad.

Never happen. Controversy brings readers, and readers bring revenue.

 

[njlauren]

I got one pending that takes aim at these guys... Thinking about making it a series. I'd like to read yours - I don't even know what SOL is other than (shit out of luck - one of my old man's favorite sayings lol). Can you link?

http://www.storiesonline.com/ Stories online, sorry. After a month and a half of trying getting my story on here, I just put it up there, people who read and post stories here do go there as well, hopefully they will see it. Story is titled "February Oh February"

 

[Salacious_Scribe]

I love every comment I get. Good and bad. In fact my three favorite all time comments are "bad" ones.

You Write like God's own drunk
Waste of time. Stopped reading halfway (posted with a user name on part 1 of a two-part story)
Same as part one. (Posted by the same person as above, on part 2)

I write for me. I write what I like, what turns me on. I share because some others seem to like my scribbles so I share them. Bad comments amuse me and I leave most comments except those that attack anyone other than me.

 

[windar]

We have the ones who think anything but a husband and wife having sex once a week in the dark (the Catholic Forum I call them) is vile,

Ok, but by that standard, almost everything on this site and most other similar ones is equally immoral: gay, lesbian, incest, most erotic couplings (unmarried), group sex, anal...So why cuckolding in particular?

 

[ChuckandAndrea]

Ok, but by that standard, almost everything on this site and most other similar ones is equally immoral: gay, lesbian, incest, most erotic couplings (unmarried), group sex, anal...So why cuckolding in particular?

My take is sad, lonely guys who both get off from it and are ashamed, but also don't have anything going on in their lives to give them any sexual gratification.... soooo... they see that particular fantasy as an affront to their ideal images of love and relationships. They can't get none, so when they see a guy sharing his woman, it sends them off the deep end. I'd be willing to bet there's a fair bit of 'em who've been in bad relationships with infidelity as well.

 

[bps]

Cuckoldry is provocative. It’s going to push buttons one way or another. My guess is that most men who feel compelled to read about it then exert much energy denigrating other people (who might be into it) probably are younger, more limited in sexual experience. They can’t imagine it. Or if they can they either can’t imagine wanting it, or are repulsed by their own fascination with it. I think the visceral reaction is largely posturing though. Some kind of adherence to a hyper-masculine ideal.

 

[bps]

My take is sad, lonely guys who both get off from it and are ashamed, but also don't have anything going on in their lives to give them any sexual gratification.... soooo... they see that particular fantasy as an affront to their ideal images of love and relationships. They can't get none, so when they see a guy sharing his woman, it sends them off the deep end. I'd be willing to bet there's a fair bit of 'em who've been in bad relationships with infidelity as well.

Insightful

 

[Djmac1031]

Ok, but by that standard, almost everything on this site and most other similar ones is equally immoral: gay, lesbian, incest, most erotic couplings (unmarried), group sex, anal...So why cuckolding in particular?

It's a really good question.

I don't wanna get into the whole religious aspect of it; believe what you want.

But if we're talking about what's considered by many to be a "conservative" morality, then yes, ANY type of porn / erotica is "immoral."

So why are they here in the first place if they find it offensive?

And how is a story about a shared wife more offensive than any other sexually related story on this site?

I think it speaks volumes as to the sexual repression of our society that the LW trolls can't even allow themselves a healthy sexual fantasy outlet.

 

[Seadog777]

I have been a long time fan of Loving Wife stories, specially the ones with cuckold theme. I have enjoyed them so much that they have inspired me to write my own version of it and give back to the community.

Good news: I have started my journey towards writing my first ever story!

Now comes the tough part. As much as I am enjoying the process of writing, in back of my mind, I cannot help but imagine how readers would react to my writings.
Browsing through the comments of cuckold tagged stories in Loving Wife category makes me feel so low. There are occasional good comments, but most comments are spiteful and judgmental.

I understand that if I am going to put my work out in public domain, people would be judging it and I am all in for it. In fact, I would want them to judge me and offer feedback, but it should be based on merit of my writing.

Some commenters just post hateful comments based on the cuckold theme of the story. It doesn't make any sense to me. Why do they even read cuckold-tagged stories if they hate the theme?

It makes me question myself: why am I writing if majority of people are going to hate it anyways?

Should I consider posting my story in other section like Fetish or Novella and escape the trolls? Or should I bite the bullet and post it in Loving Wife category as this is where my potential readers lurk around. I want my story to reach the maximum number of audience who enjoy such theme.

A lot of the replies are done out of emotion because that or something similar happened to them in real life.
I'm an honest man and I can regretfully say that on a few occasions, I let my own personal reminder of a past incident, cloud my immediate review.
As with anything there are going to be haters and trolls, so I'd just delete them or let it roll off your back.

 

[MorraRose]

I have been a long time fan of Loving Wife stories, specially the ones with cuckold theme. I have enjoyed them so much that they have inspired me to write my own version of it and give back to the community.

Good news: I have started my journey towards writing my first ever story!

Now comes the tough part. As much as I am enjoying the process of writing, in back of my mind, I cannot help but imagine how readers would react to my writings.
Browsing through the comments of cuckold tagged stories in Loving Wife category makes me feel so low. There are occasional good comments, but most comments are spiteful and judgmental.

I understand that if I am going to put my work out in public domain, people would be judging it and I am all in for it. In fact, I would want them to judge me and offer feedback, but it should be based on merit of my writing.

Some commenters just post hateful comments based on the cuckold theme of the story. It doesn't make any sense to me. Why do they even read cuckold-tagged stories if they hate the theme?

It makes me question myself: why am I writing if majority of people are going to hate it anyways?

Should I consider posting my story in other section like Fetish or Novella and escape the trolls? Or should I bite the bullet and post it in Loving Wife category as this is where my potential readers lurk around. I want my story to reach the maximum number of audience who enjoy such theme.

I recently posted a story that I initially categorized as Mature, but should be Loving Wives. Anyway, it is indeed about a cheating wife, and lo and behold–got a couple of hellfire and damnation responses. Oh well. Here's what I tell myself dealing with such a reaction:
1. If a person has a problem with intense sexual situations, why are they on Literotica? Literotica is a place for sex. Many different kinds of sex. Period.
2. How would these folks react if the main character was the husband and not the wife? Obviously, it wouldn't be in Loving Wives, but you get my point.
3. The best writing advice I ever heard: "Most people won't like you." (In regards to what you write, not personally.) It sounds counterproductive, but actually a huge relief. It means you are free to write what you love and don't worry about it. Just keep writing.
4. Write a response. Keep it well-written, civil, and intelligent. This is an opportunity for you to toughen your skin and sharpen your pen. And your sword. Make a negative work for you.
5. Keep writing!

 

[Grendelpuppy]

depending on the language snd apparent motivation, delete them.

 

[EmilyMiller]

How does an aspiring writer deal with negative comments for cuckold stories​

Stop writing cuckold stories maybe? Just sayin’

Em