How to Enslave Women

[morewickedfun]

Thank you for the lovely conversation. Poppy you made me puke in my mouth.
you know where i can be reached.

 

[Jennifer Kaye]

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World-famous pick-up artist and seduction counselor, Mystery, once identified the five characteristics of an alpha male as confidence, a great smile, being well groomed, possessing a sense of humor, connecting with people, and being seen as the social center of the room ...

Out of those five characteristics, I would for sure agree with confidence, being well groomed, and possessing a great sense of humor.

If you won't eat a girl out, though, you can forget about scoring with lil'ol me!

Personally speaking, I consider myself submissive in sex, but never in spirit. I feel as though I am ALWAYS in control and anything I "give in" to is all a part of my making somebody feel in control so that I can get what I want. Ergo, I am still in control, when submissive.

Oh, and I think it is foolish to draw broad generalizations. I suppose I must admit, though, I have always found myself more drawn to guys that are more dismissive. I think that's because I view them as more of a challenge, though.

 

[Marquis]

Honestly, I got to the words 'I make no apologies for what I am about to say' and I just... didn't want to read anymore.

It's awesome that you've done what you've done for yourself, but it seems [to me] that you just wanted to tell us how hot you are.

I already know you think you're hot, I know 90% of lit women think you're hot, and I know that the majority of the time I find you easy to talk to and a generally nice person.

*shrug

I don't need to read anymore about how much of a super stud you are, cause I've never really wanted to know that about you anyway. I've always chatted you up about you. Your weight loss, your opinions, etc... the other stuff, I don't much care about.

good on ya for doign the confessional thing, and telling the truth as you are able.

Well then you missed the entire point of my post.

It's a sad state when the people of lit are so fucking insecure that I can't talk about my own successes without being criticized or called a liar. Are we so insecure that any personal pride a person shows must be torn apart?

I brought up all that stuff not to brag about how cool I am. Certainly I am happy about certain aspects of my life, but that was not the point.

The point was to explain that I have followed a path of excess that few men have access to, and I want to return and give the wisdom I found.

 

[_geisha_]

Thank you for the lovely conversation. Poppy you made me puke in my mouth.
you know where i can be reached.

bwahahahahaaa @ puke in my mouth!!

oh, sorry, this is a serious conversation.

I'll exit now.

 

[_geisha_]

Well then you missed the entire point of my post.

It's a sad state when the people of lit are so fucking insecure that I can't talk about my own successes without being criticized or called a liar. Are we so insecure that any personal pride a person shows must be torn apart?

I brought up all that stuff not to brag about how cool I am. Certainly I am happy about certain aspects of my life, but that was not the point.

The point was to explain that I have followed a path of excess that few men have access to, and I want to return and give the wisdom I found.

I didn't call you a liar, or tear apart your pride. I said I didn't want to read any more about it.

I don't know if I misspoke, or if you're just on the defensive, but either way, maybe I shouldn't have said anything at all.

 

[Marquis]

It's a date then

If there's any way we could coordinate this beforehand that would be great. I have been wanting to take my sub up for a trip to orlando to see the parks anyway.

 

[Marquis]

I didn't call you a liar, or tear apart your pride. I said I didn't want to read any more about it.

I don't know if I misspoke, or if you're just on the defensive, but either way, maybe I shouldn't have said anything at all.

My apologies, I might be being a bit over defensive, but I run into this constantly.

 

[hogjack]

but I run into this constantly.

Luckily you have on that sleek helmet.

 

[_geisha_]

My apologies, I might be being a bit over defensive, but I run into this constantly.

It happens, and I'm also in a phase like that, I think.

It's okay. Don't worry about it, I jsut didn't want a disagreement to happen over nothing.

 

[Leverage]

Out of those five characteristics, I would for sure agree with confidence, being well groomed, and possessing a great sense of humor.

If you won't eat a girl out, though, forget it!

Personally speaking, I consider myself submissive in sex, but never in spirit. I feel as though I am ALWAYS in control and anything I "give in" to is all a part of my making somebody feel in control so that I can get what I want. Ergo, I am still in control, when submissive.

Oh, and I think it is foolish to draw broad generalizations. I suppose I must admit, though, I have always found myself more drawn to guys that are more dismissive. I think that's because I view them as more of a challenge, though.

You know how to play the game. You did not make the rules and are not attempting to change or argue with them like some of the female posters in this thread.

 

[Recidiva]

If there's any way we could coordinate this beforehand that would be great. I have been wanting to take my sub up for a trip to orlando to see the parks anyway.

Workin' on it, I think it'll be mostly up to Hester's convenience. Can't wait, should be a blast.

 

[Marquis]

Personally speaking, I consider myself submissive in sex, but never in spirit. I feel as though I am ALWAYS in control and anything I "give in" to is all a part of my making somebody feel in control so that I can get what I want. Ergo, I am still in control, when submissive.

Many will vehemently disagree with this, but I think this is how most if not all submissives operate. It is the framework I use to understand the behavior of my own submissive.

Oh, and I think it is foolish to draw broad generalizations. I suppose I must admit, though, I have always found myself more drawn to guys that are more dismissive. I think that's because I view them as more of a challenge, though.

Exactly, they are keeping you in the sweet spot.

Additionally, a very attractive woman like yourself is used to men showering you with attention. Therefore, you innately assume that any male not giving you attention must be more valuable than those who surrender immediately.

This is basic psychology, it is how we all operate.

 

[Jennifer Kaye]

You know how to play the game. You did not make the rules and are not attempting to change or argue with them like some of the female posters in this thread.

lol

Guys will be guys, and personally, I find them easy to manipulate. If a guy is dismissive of me, I may view them as a challenge and focus on proving to myself that I can get anybody, but only as long as that guy still remains "interesting". If he subsequently just comes off as an a-hole, then I become the last girl he could ever score with.

 

[Marquis]

You know how to play the game. You did not make the rules and are not attempting to change or argue with them like some of the female posters in this thread.

Bingo.

 

[Marquis]

lol

Guys will be guys, and personally, I find them easy to manipulate. If a guy is dismissive of me, I may view them as a challenge and focus on proving to myself that I can get anybody, but only as long as that guy still remains "interesting". If he subsequently just comes off as an a-hole, then I become the last girl he could ever score with.

You do realize you are basically reiterating my points right?

This is a big score for the Marquis team.

 

[Leverage]

You do realize you are basically reiterating my points right?

This is a big score for the Marquis team.

Word...

 

[Marquis]

Workin' on it, I think it'll be mostly up to Hester's convenience. Can't wait, should be a blast.

I'm looking forward to it.

 

[Jennifer Kaye]

Many will vehemently disagree with this, but I think this is how most if not all submissives operate. It is the framework I use to understand the behavior of my own submissive.

Exactly, they are keeping you in the sweet spot.

Additionally, a very attractive woman like yourself is used to men showering you with attention. Therefore, you innately assume that any male not giving you attention must be more valuable than those who surrender immediately.

This is basic psychology, it is how we all operate.

I cannot argue with what you say.

All I might say is that I am well aware that many guys are purposefully dismissive as a part of the game. If they are too obvious about it, though, they won't get a second look from me. "Playas" turn me off.

 

[medjay]

It's a sad state when the people of lit are so fucking insecure that I can't talk about my own successes without being criticized or called a liar. Are we so insecure that any personal pride a person shows must be torn apart?

I've experienced this around here. I've never lied about myself and I'm self-congratulatory and self-depricating in equal measure most of the time. But when I made comments a while ago stating that I was generally a happy person and that I had no problem meeting and bedding down women, I made a few enemies.

Someone actually told me that I was an asshole and was being insensitive to those who weren't as outgoing or fortunate. Basicially, I got the idea that they wanted me to downplay my success to make them more comfortable.

 

[Jennifer Kaye]

You do realize you are basically reiterating my points right?

This is a big score for the Marquis team.

I'm not trying to come out in favor of this team or that team, I am merely expressing what I know, based upon my experiences. The chips shall fall as they may.

 

[Jennifer Kaye]

Relating back to those five "success" characteristics, relating to confidence, I think, is happiness. For me, I like a guy to be generally happy and self assured. That being said, though, I also like a humorous blend of sarcasm and cynicism mixed into the equation.

 

[Marquis]

I cannot argue with what you say.

All I might say is that I am well aware that many guys are purposefully dismissive as a part of the game. If they are too obvious about it, though, they won't get a second look from me. "Playas" turn me off.

As well they should.

The greatest form is no form.

 

[Recidiva]

I've experienced this around here. I've never lied about myself and I'm self-congratulatory and self-depricating in equal measure most of the time. But when I made comments a while ago stating that I was generally a happy and that I had no problem meeting and bedding down women, I made a few enemies.

Someone actually told me that I was an asshole and was being insensitive to those who weren't as outgoing or fortunate. Basicially, I got the idea that they wanted me to downplay my success to make them more comfortable.

This is a constant. There are those who buy into and enforce the "go with the norm" mentality.

They're trying to make the herd safe. I get it, I just don't agree. But then I'm usually out on the edges of the herd playing with the predators to keep in shape.

I understand it, I get it, I'm just not going to cooperate. I think I picked up on this as a kid. One day my mom told me my clothing in general was too tight and my sister told me in general my clothing was too loose. Fuck it. Do/wear/say what I want, hang out in the fringes where the fun happens.

But as a result, since I'm nobody's norm and I don't accept a standard of behavior, I do get a tad eccentric. Okay.

 

[Jailhouse]

If he were really sociopathic, he wouldn't give a damn what we thought about him. There would be no essay.

He doesn't give a damn about what people think of him. He wrote that essay for himself, not for us.

 

[Marquis]

I've experienced this around here. I've never lied about myself and I'm self-congratulatory and self-depricating in equal measure most of the time. But when I made comments a while ago stating that I was generally a happy person and that I had no problem meeting and bedding down women, I made a few enemies.

Someone actually told me that I was an asshole and was being insensitive to those who weren't as outgoing or fortunate. Basicially, I got the idea that they wanted me to downplay my success to make them more comfortable.

There's just no time for this shit in the world.

Althought in their defense, a lot of these people join online communities to blend in with their own kind. To some degree we may be like skinny kids in a fat camp.