How to Enslave Women

[luxey313]

Buzzkill.

You are allowed to question yourself, as well as accept and grow into your own skin, when ever you want dearest Marquis.

Get your hatablockers on...

 

[JMohegan]

Buzzkill.

I'm sorry, man. You asked, I linked.

The raincoat issue is obvious.

As for the homework, etc., please consider the following observation about "the game".

As you get older, women expect to see more than a hot body & great clothes. In that sense, your current game might be working against your game in a decade or two.

Not a criticism, just something to consider.

 

[Marquis]

I'm sorry, man. You asked, I linked.

The raincoat issue is obvious.

Yes, and if anyone cares I've gotten much, much better about that.

As for the homework, etc., please consider the following observation about "the game".

As you get older, women expect to see more than a hot body & great clothes. In that sense, your current game might be working against your game in a decade or two.

Not a criticism, just something to consider.

I think you have some misconceptions about how I run my game.

 

[Marquis]

For what? Not caring?

For women with their asshole sensors up.

One way in which I've really improved my game over the years is realizing that less is more. I used to try to manipulate the situation by talking a lot and staying ahead of my target, but now I try to say as little as necessary and spend considerable more energy reading my target and responding appropriately.

 

[Recidiva]

Yes, and if anyone cares I've gotten much, much better about that.

I care. It's a big deal. I'm glad you did.

 

[Marquis]

I have the exact, same growing up story. So you ain't special.

Really, which parts?

 

[JMohegan]

Yes, and if anyone cares I've gotten much, much better about that.

I am genuinely glad to hear it.

I think you have some misconceptions about how I run my game.

Perhaps. If you want to correct me, fine. If not, that's fine too.

In any case, my point stands. The criteria by which women judge men changes as men get older. I'm sure there are exceptions to this rule, but generally speaking it's true.

 

[Marquis]

I care. It's a big deal. I'm glad you did.

You care?

Please, you wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire.

 

[bronzeage]

I care. It's a big deal. I'm glad you did.

Cuz you just love people, right?

 

[Recidiva]

You care?

Please, you wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire.

You really need to work on accurately gauging responses.

 

[Marquis]

Perhaps. If you want to correct me, fine. If not, that's fine too.

In any case, my point stands. The criteria by which women judge men changes as men get older. I'm sure there are exceptions to this rule, but generally speaking it's true.

I would be more inclined to believe that generally speaking, it's untrue, with certain exceptions.

I think women basically seek the alpha male. They also need to be convinced that they are being offered some security (part of theperceived value you must demonstrate), and their expectations of that do change based on their age or their nature. A 19 year old is more nervous about going to your house than a 27 year old. Older women can't afford to waste their time with guys who aren't likely to commit, etc.

In any case, the way I see it I will be fucking with women in the same age group I work with now (mainly 25-35) for at least the next 20 years.

 

[Recidiva]

Cuz you just love people, right?

Yes, something like that.

 

[Marquis]

You really need to work on accurately gauging responses.

You seem to have more trouble with your affect than I do with my perceptive abilities.

Let's not get too testy, it'll make things uncomfortable over dinner.

 

[JMohegan]

I would be more inclined to believe that generally speaking, it's untrue, with certain exceptions.

I think women basically seek the alpha male. They also need to be convinced that they are being offered some security (part of theperceived value you must demonstrate), and their expectations of that do change based on their age or their nature. A 19 year old is more nervous about going to your house than a 27 year old. Older women can't afford to waste their time with guys who aren't likely to commit, etc.

In any case, the way I see it I will be fucking with women in the same age group I work with now (mainly 25-35) for at least the next 20 years.

Ha, ha, I have no doubt that you will! Longer, in fact, if you want to. The world is filled with 20 somethings who have a thing for older men.

But my point relates to your assertion about women seeking the "alpha male". A woman will look at a guy in his early 20's and not expect him to have achieved anything with regard to a career.

But when they look at a guy who is 35 or 45, women of any age start asking what you do or have done in the working world. And it's a hell of a lot harder to give off the alpha male vibe in answering that question one way than another. That's the point I was trying to make.

 

[jasia]

hmmmm

Ok, haven't been here for a while and mostly i just sit and read and once in while i'll plop down a line or so. i just had some surgery and i'm recovering as i was answering my emails i thought to drop by before i had to leave again for another month while i recover from my surgery. (since i won't have internet where i'm heading i won't get to see the response) but i did want to say this...


Marquis, very brave admitting and telling of your life and lifestyle as it is with anyone who wishes to share even though we'll all incongito. (though i'm sure some of you have become friends outside the forum) anyway i'm sliding off my thoughts....

i actually sit and read about 90 percent of the responses here and can say honestly that its been a blast to read.

anyone in BDSM knows of SSC. and other rules that should be followed out of safety for self and others. yeah yeah, incase anyone hasn't noticed i'm a submissive. however before that realization i was a Domme and had a sub (male) of my own. however, i did alot of soul searching and what Marquis has said is truth if you want to really look into who you are you will find it for youselves but for me He's right. yes, i capped Marquis outta respect for the time being. No you don't have to agree with all His topics but He is right for the most part at least for me He is.. no i'm not feeding Your ego, Marquis because i do disagree with some of what You have said.

for me personally, i did alot of soul searching and accepting and it took alot to swallow it and years to admit to myself. yes, i'm old fashion however the only thing i believe in as far as women lit is if i'm doing the exact same job as the guy beside me damn straight i better get the same damn pay. as for the rest well.... no i don't think women should be in military fighting. no i don't think men should do the laundry or scrub the floors unless they are single and live on their own, and i'm sure many of you are going to attack me too for my thoughts as well but its an interesting and refreshing thing to read Marquis.

deep in my soul and what i believe and i'm not pushing my view on anyone but from what i learned of myself and yes for those going to ask i have alot of respect for myself and i'm confidant in my views and what i say i stand by. and yet i'm a submissive. in my soul i am a submissive for the right Man, i'd be His slave. i had that relationship once Marquis so i know what You are talking about and i miss it and Him. Things happened long story as why We're not longer together. anyway, if anyone as loved so throughly and deeply and unconditionally can at least understand some of what Marquis has said if you want to be honest even if your not in the BDSM lifestyle you can understand what He's saying if you read between the lines at least this is what i got from it as well as other things.. even without BDSM in the mix because all relationships have it just a touch in some form or another.

Just because someone isn't a sub but a slave yes two different types for those who have different ideas and tastes as to what BDSM is for them and what they are willing to admit too or give of themselves.
Don't mean there isn't respect givin from both sides. BDSM is a lifestyle it is what you want out of it. but as always SSC! So my lil spill on this. is Thanks Marquis for an interesting topic i throughly enjoyed it even if i don't agree with everything You, Yourself believe in. Be well and safe.

 

[Recidiva]

You seem to have more trouble with your affect than I do with my perceptive abilities.

Let's not get too testy, it'll make things uncomfortable over dinner.

Well, I'd say we don't need to worry about dinner.

 

[Freya]

For women with their asshole sensors up.

One way in which I've really improved my game over the years is realizing that less is more. I used to try to manipulate the situation by talking a lot and staying ahead of my target, but now I try to say as little as necessary and spend considerable more energy reading my target and responding appropriately.

So, rather than expending energy trying to convince women that you're not what they think you are, you just become what they think they want?

 

[Leverage]

You all still arguing over this thread. I see Recidiva is still in the middle of things. That's a suprise.

 

[Marquis]

Well, I'd say we don't need to worry about dinner.

Is this one of those times where you deliberately mislead people with your comments, and "giggle madly" when they misunderstand you, or are you genuinely uninviting me?

 

[Marquis]

So, rather than expending energy trying to convince women that you're not what they think you are, you just become what they think they want?

Exactly.

From The 48 Laws of Power:

Law 9

Win through your Actions, Never through Argument

Any momentary triumph you think gained through argument is really a Pyrrhic victory: The resentment and ill will you stir up is stronger and lasts longer than any momentary change of opinion. It is much more powerful to get others to agree with you through your actions, without saying a word. Demonstrate, do not explicate.

 

[Freya]

Exactly.

From The 48 Laws of Power:

Law 9

Win through your Actions, Never through Argument

Any momentary triumph you think gained through argument is really a Pyrrhic victory: The resentment and ill will you stir up is stronger and lasts longer than any momentary change of opinion. It is much more powerful to get others to agree with you through your actions, without saying a word. Demonstrate, do not explicate.

Interesting. I like that quote.

Well, I can't say as I necessarily agree with your way of "working", but it seems as though it's what makes you happy. It seems emotionally empty to me, but there are many, many people who seek out that type of connection with others.

 

[Cleopatra]

I'm curious as to why I'm constantly having to defend myself against having ulterior motives.

I have no agenda.

I wanted to share. That's all.

People keep asking me questions that were answered in the first post, like the answer is going to change.

I would think that most people have an agenda when posting something - very few come with just something to share. I'm not saying it's an ulterior motive, it's just that I don't think I've seen many serious threads started with someone laying out their life story, that didn't have a purpose. You sound like you want to teach men your secrets - but you never came out and said it, and since I didn't want to assume you were just an arrogant man who though he knew it all, I asked.


And I say first thing that I didn't read the rest of the posts, so I'm sorry if you answered this question already.

 

[Marquis]

You sound like you want to teach men your secrets

This was the basic idea, but there seems to be few takers, despite what I believe to be a significant need.

Instead we got a bunch of angry warriors of the feminine gender shaking their tit-spears and a bunch of guys humbly submitting to them while jacking off to porno that is a slim representation of the sex life I engage in regularly.

Leverage, Jennifer Kaye and a few others respectfully excluded from that generalization.

 

[Cleopatra]

This was the basic idea, but there seems to be few takers, despite what I believe to be a significant need.

You believe there's a significant need to educate men how to enslave women? Just here on Lit, or in general?

 

[Marquis]

You believe there's a significant need to educate men how to enslave women? Just here on Lit, or in general?

I think there is a significant need for men in general to understand how to fight the war of the sexes. I would imagine this deficiency is particularly salient on Lit, but I don't really have facts to back that up beyond my own observations.

There is also some need for naive women to understand how gladiators like myself operate, but this is secondary if not tertiary to my original purpose.

I'm out.