Shankara20
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@}-}rebecca---- said:BRB need to pick one color before I get in trouble!
once again I feel like I'm in a Bill Murrhy movie directed by the upstart Coppola child.....
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@}-}rebecca---- said:BRB need to pick one color before I get in trouble!
A wiser person than I would have their internet priviledges cancelled today for the way my mind is working.Very Lord Shankara the Insouciant of Much Bottom said:once again I feel like I'm in a Bill Murrhy movie directed by the upstart Coppola child.....
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Ecru - ah yes! A Whiter Shade of Pale I do beleave....@}-}rebecca---- said:'Ecru'
Shankara20 said:Ecru - ah yes! A Whiter Shade of Pale I do beleave....
(leaving all comments by Fu about Nick Cage unspoken at this time)
My dear Rebecca - I did not know of events in your life requiring wall work (wondering if this was the results of an action staged to bring out those fine young men of the brigade once again) please excuse my lapse..
... and please pass me a martini, once we both have them in hand we can then discuss topics such as said Mr. Cage, the Coppola clan and tyranny in your bedroom...![]()
Excuse you Mister are you inferring that I have bizarre mood swings , anti social behavior and multiple freaking personalities my sweet darling .Shankara20 said:
.now that is something I never ever considered trying to do myself.....@}-}rebecca---- said:I try to keep things on topic
you, my dear 
Ohhh Fu you so don't want to encourage me to share the inane and off task .............Shankara20 said:now that is something I never ever considered trying to do myself.....![]()
and I'm getting too old to start now....![]()
you, my dear
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:laughs: NoooooooooooooooooooFurryFury said:
Okay the lizard/geeko motif oh no thanks.FurryFury said:
awwww pity it's not on stilts Dommy might actually go for that , especially in winter instead of trying to sleep on my hair. Has a kind of Nordic thang going on huh.FurryFury said:
You do spoil me MissFurryFury said:
Fury
, that is perfection. He would love that.@}-}rebecca---- said:"This thread is temporarily closed".

@}-}rebecca---- said:Wrong Reasons To Do S/M
Column by Fetish Diva Midori
Are you a kinkster? Are you a part of the S/M community? Do you identify yourself as a leather person? Do you know why you’re a member of this community? Has it fed your needs? Has it made you happier? Has it brought you more inner peace? Have you found intimate and harmonious connections with people whom you might not have otherwise met.
If so, I congratulate you. You’ve found a corner of the complex social network of humans that’s right for you.
If, however, you haven’t found these things, perhaps you’re trying to quench your thirst in the wrong watering hole. You may be seeking bliss through the wrong pilgrimage.
Recently I’ve encountered a few situations where I’ve asked or wondered if a person’s need to belong to the kink community was positive and/or healthy. I’m not talking about the rare egregious nutcase murderers who prey on the on-line BDSM players and stuff them into 55-gallon drums. I’m talking about everyday people who find themselves in search of something within the leather world and constantly feel unhappy or unfulfilled. I’ve met such people in casual conversations at leather events, in submissive applicants, in tutorial students, and within circles of friends.
Perhaps we’ve mistakenly made the S/M life seem like a panacea for personal and erotic problems.
I know of a person who thought that being a house boy/servant/sex slave would be a great way to get laid, live comfortably, and have a place to live. I know of another person who uses the premise of TPE (Total Power Exchange) to deprive his sub from having contact with her friends and family. I also know of an individual who doesn’t like any S/M play but wanted the seeming tenderness of after-care; in turn, that person would put up with acts that were rather distasteful to them. I know of bottoms who guilt and cudgel their tops into serving their needs. I know people who feel worthless, have intensely low-self esteem issues, and believe that D/s justifies their broken self image. I know of doms who force their boys into high-risk sex in the name of obedience.
Why so much of this lately?
During the past several years there’s been a great effort to give positive PR to the S/M life. That’s fine. I’m all for reducing the stigma against alternative sexual practices between consenting adults. But in the rush to show the joy of kink, perhaps we’ve done too good of a job. Perhaps we’ve mistakenly made the S/M life seem like an Eden of sexual adventurousness and panacea for personal and erotic problems. We’ve also put stock in our reputation as a community that welcomes with open arms all adults, regardless of their proclivities, perversions, and/or dysfunction. We talk about the joys, physical highs, spiritual paths, honored commitments, deep bonds, tenderness, primal joys, enlightened communications, etc., etc.
Sounds wonderful, doesn’t it?
The spin job by the enthusiastic disciples of pervyness has done its work. In some quarters. (Although hardly enough in the realms of legal defense, employment protection, and mental health authorities.) Understandably, this is what enthusiasts do. They are thrilled, delighted, and only wish to be understood. With such wonderful earnest cheerleading (especially in the world of the Internet, where no one can be held accountable for their words), people have been coming out of the woodwork to find S/M Munches, clubs, play-parties, and play-mates.
What we, the believers, haven’t mentioned are the mundane details, the downsides, the realities:
If you are broken, S/M will not fix you.
Your domme may play your mommy or daddy, but you still have adult responsibilities to the world.
Poor social skills cannot be disguised as dominance.
Poor social skills cannot be disguised as submission.
You can’t get a date just because you bought a whip or a collar.
Only you can make yourself worthless.
Only you can choose to be powerful.
Consensual slavery or D/s is not a meal ticket with room and board.
Total Power Exchange isn’t.
Total Power Exchange can’t protect you from a restraining order.
Empty rituals will not lead to love.
Controlling another’s life doesn’t mean that you have control over yours.
Consent is a moment to moment experience and does exist permanently.
Sometimes we don’t even recognize the broken people when they’re looking at us in the mirror.
Our community ideology states that S/M isn’t abuse and there’s no place for abuse in good S/M. But here’s the reality: Abuse in our community does happen and we don’t always talk about it. It may be the abuse of others or the abuse of self. I’ve no idea of what the incidence of abuse in the S/M community might be. I’ve no idea as to whether it’s greater, lesser, or at par with the general population. But it definitely is there. Sometimes we aren’t certain if an interaction within a couple is abusive or consensual behavior. When the dom silences the sub, is that the textbook definition of abuse or is it acceptable protocol in their household? We can’t always be certain looking at the external parts of the relationship; whether the sub maintains agency of their life and consent, or if a sense of powerlessness is pervasive to the point of helplessness and subjugation. We aren’t always certain from the outside whether the domme is enjoying a newfound sexual confidence or is actually a reluctant, domineered Venus in furs to a selfish Severin.
Yes, many people start out in S/M feeling uncertain, even insecure and lacking in confidence. Such is to be expected in any new adventure. I’m not talking about the uncertainly of entering a new world. I’m concerned about people who are broken and enter S/M to put on a Band-Aid or hide their emotional cracks.
You can’t always know who the broken people are. Sometimes we don’t even recognize them when they’re looking at ourselves in the mirror. Many of the broken have fully internalized the dogma, catch phrases, party line, and slogans of the S/M communities. They sound great on paper ... or on their Internet profile. They sound great during the interview or negotiation process. We may believe this is the only place we belong. Yet perhaps such broken individuals do, in fact, mistake acceptance for happiness, for a sense of belonging.
Here’s one thing to look for: Does the S/M or D/s in which they partake really turn them on? Does it make them hard or wet? Do they have erotic fantasies about kink? Are they really happier for being a part of the community?
Along with genuine arousal, are they able to empathize with other people? Do they have friends of quality? Do they have a sense of self worth and self esteem balanced with a healthy sense of humility? Are they able to interact properly within and outside of the S/M community? Has it fed their needs? Has it made them happier? Have they found intimacy and harmonious connections with people by way of S/M explorations? Has S/M brought them more internal peace?
@}-}rebecca---- said:Excellent article worth considering again .

Ohh that looks like fun . Yes , No , maybe. I was interested to realize that I don't buy the Midori essay in entirety as I previously did . Might make a few comments on that. Will you be pitching in please ?Shankara20 said:does this mean you are getting back into the swing again?
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sure - I'll swing with you - and only push you when you ask to be pushed...@}-}rebecca---- said:Ohh that looks like fun . Yes , No , maybe. I was interested to realize that I don't buy the Midori essay in entirety as I previously did . Might make a few comments on that. Will you be pitching in please ?
Thank you Fu a friend indeed ............. :smiles:Shankara20 said:sure - I'll swing with you - and only push you when you ask to be pushed...
*runs off to read her essay again*

some of the horrible things you saw last night were real - not everything was an erotic dream gone very very bad@}-}rebecca---- said:Thank you Fu a friend indeed ............. :smiles:
I am still not awake , it was a cursed night , I'll add my thoughts later![]()
