Incest -- what's the appeal?

[MindYaBitness]

Freud stated clearly that Oedipus himself did not have that complex.

But the name was too appropriate not to use.

He may have been hinting that if you want to bang your mom that you should probably go ahead and gouge your eyes out.

 

[LargoKitt]

'Motherfucker' is rarely a compliment. "She was raped by her dad," just about always gets gasps. But it is fascinating the range of relationships that turn people on. If you have experienced involuntary incest, from someone you otherwise love and trust, or need for support, the effect in terms of how you feel about yourself can have big long-term consequences: Choosing abusive mates because you feel too 'dirty' for good ones. Hours of expensive therapy or time spent inside a bottle or a needle. "Do you ever have suicidal ideation"? "Um, of course, doesn't everybody?" OTOH, incest is 'frequent', if not 'normal'. The number of women who have had 'innappropriate sexual advances' from family members is huge. But, ironically, I tip my hat to the men who live with their fantasies about family members who first got them hot. Same goes for gals. Enjoy the playground in your head. Just don't pass it along IRL.

 

[MindYaBitness]

'Motherfucker' is rarely a compliment. "She was raped by her dad," just about always gets gasps. But it is fascinating the range of relationships that turn people on. If you have experienced involuntary incest, from someone you otherwise love and trust, or need for support, the effect in terms of how you feel about yourself can have big long-term consequences: Choosing abusive mates because you feel too 'dirty' for good ones. Hours of expensive therapy or time spent inside a bottle or a needle. "Do you ever have suicidal ideation"? "Um, of course, doesn't everybody?" OTOH, incest is 'frequent', if not 'normal'. The number of women who have had 'innappropriate sexual advances' from family members is huge. But, ironically, I tip my hat to the men who live with their fantasies about family members who first got them hot. Same goes for gals. Enjoy the playground in your head. Just don't pass it along IRL.

Show me incest between consenting adults who do not live together, and have no power dynamics at play, and you'll see just how uncommon it is. Your comment of "The number of women who have had innappropriate sexual advances' from family members is huge" just means that men are creeping on women the way they do in the rest of their life, and even family is not a safe place girl/women to avoid advances?

 

[LargoKitt]

He may have been hinting that if you want to bang your mom that you should probably go ahead and gouge your eyes out.

Freud was saying that men who feel like banging their mom's are pretty darn common. Often hard for a human to know where the 'love urge' ends and the 'sexual urge begins' especially for little ones. He probably recognized that for those whose mom's did bang them, (Remember it usually happens that way when someone is under age) the self-loathing is huge and society socially castrates (two round balls, get it?) someone who crosses that line. Curiously, further study of Freud's female patients determined that many had 'hysteria' and 'Electra complexes' because they had been sexually exploited by a relative. And then there are boys that have been raped by their fathers, and girls by their mothers (Yes it happens--Sybil) No handy myths for those.

 

[LargoKitt]

Show me incest between consenting adults who do not live together, and have no power dynamics at play, and you'll see just how uncommon it is. Your comment of "The number of women who have had innappropriate sexual advances' from family members is huge" just means that men are creeping on women the way they do in the rest of their life, and even family is not a safe place girl/women to avoid advances?

"even family is not a safe place girl/women to avoid advances?" Statistically, most sexual abuse is from family members.

 

[MindYaBitness]

"even family is not a safe place girl/women to avoid advances?" Statistically, most sexual abuse is from family members.

I'm well aware. I was raised by psychologist, and my spouse was a detective for a decade. As a result I can tell you the classism & misogyny that allowed a label of "hysteria" on girls rather than publicly out their predator fathers & brothers, and the regurgitate the stats on not only family abuse, but down to which cultures in our country tolerate & hide it. Like I said earlier, I cannot suspend my unbelief to even get through a story on here to try to understand why anyone would want to perpetuate the delusion that it's always consensual.

 

[Wilson23]

Curiously, further study of Freud's female patients determined that many had 'hysteria'

Which was never a real thing. It means "wandering uterus" -- doctors once thought a uterus could move around the body and that would cause trouble. But in fact a woman's uterus stays fixed in place between her hips from birth to death (or to hysterectomy). "Hysteria" really meant "being-a-woman disease," it was the standard diagnosis for any female patient of even slightly unusual emotions.

 

[Abeona1]

I thought it was more to do with power play.

 

[JonathanBair]

I just found this. For me incest would be more about wanting to be close to someone I care about be it sister or mom. Being around them but out of sight letting them be there self's as they think they are with just there girlfriends. I could be just as happy hidden under a table with a group of females all wearing pants or them all wearing skirts/dresses. The subject dose not need to be sexual as I would be just as happy hearing them all bitching about there hard day at work, tho it would be enjoyable hearing the "girl talk" being about a sexual subject. I could be just as happy being out of sight as I listen from under a bed or under a lounge chair that would be fully covered.

I would not object if being there hidden puts me in a spot if I was under a bed, might open up to me getting to come out and explore her/them as she sleeps alone or a group of them sleeping... It could also put me in a spot I could explore the sleeping body or bodies.

 

[Neanderthal247]

I'm well aware. I was raised by psychologist, and my spouse was a detective for a decade. As a result I can tell you the classism & misogyny that allowed a label of "hysteria" on girls rather than publicly out their predator fathers & brothers, and the regurgitate the stats on not only family abuse, but down to which cultures in our country tolerate & hide it. Like I said earlier, I cannot suspend my unbelief to even get through a story on here to try to understand why anyone would want to perpetuate the delusion that it's always consensual.

Also I have seen family members accuse the victim of family sexual assault, of destroying the reputation of the family. They rather keep up appearances and care more about how the family is perceived, rather than helping their family heal.

 

[Wilson23]

I thought it was more to do with power play.

Only when it's parent-child, I should think.

 

[MindYaBitness]

Only when it's parent-child, I should think.

If you think there is no power dynamic to sibling incest/abuse, you need to read the stats more thoroughly.

 

[joshprim]

I think it's unlikely that my mother or father would have wanted to fuck me when I was a teenager, but maybe they might have been willing to watch someone else do it.

 

[MrMannson]

My opinion, it makes me vomit.

Maybe because I have a family. Or because I never had some of the “experiences” others have growing up with their relatives? I don’t know.

To me it’s creepy and disgusting but hey, whatever floats your boat. I just get tired, very tired, of everytime I log onto my favourite porn sites, or even here sometimes, and all I see are incest here and there.

Give me cuckold, cheating, MMF, threesomes, etc with NON relatives and I’m happy!

 

[Pabiporffor]

If asked, "Would you fuck your sibling?" Virtually everyone says, "Eww no." But is that an honest answer or just a safe one?

We've all lay in bed as teens at night quietly pleasuring ourselves in the full knowledge our sibling in the next room is probably doing the same, yet both parties do their best not to be heard.

Haven't we all thought of the logical solution? Truth is both parties are thinking about it yet few of us are ever brave enough to pop their head around their brothers door and sat, "I'm sick of fingering, fancy a fuck?" Why do so few brothers ask, "I heard your vibrator last night, I can give you the real thing."

Incest, like so much in porn taps into what we're too scared to admit wanting.

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

there is probley alternate earths where its legal and allowed

 

[Zootonius]

there is probley alternate earths where its legal and allowed

When it comes to consenting adults, several US states have no laws forbidding incest.

 

[JonathanBair]

I know I just enjoy reading about it so I do not keep up on that kind of law, tho I think it just say you need to be something like 2nd cousins to get married and the age of consent... Otherwise I do not know of any laws effecting a relationship it self.

 

[Dombull617]

Well, I can’t speak for everyone. But, the appeal to the subject of incest so first the taboo aspect. The “we shouldn’t be doing this.” That makes it more hott. And second, when you are with a family member is a different feeling. My sister and I messed around when we were younger. And we felt we could trust the other person fully. And there is a different type of love that isn’t there with. Boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife relationship. Now, when my cousin and I hooked up a few years ago. It was just about the sex. Friends with benefits. But, also, we trusted each other so it made it more meaningful. Like I said I don’t speak for everyone. That is just how my first wanks as a teenager were whilst listening my parents fucking in the next room

Lit has a whole section of incest porn.

Most of us never do anything like that IRL because of the Westermarck effect -- makes all mentally healthy people go "Eewww!" at the thought of sex with a close relative. (Not counting cousins, but that's never nearly as creepy -- there are some cultures where marriage between first cousins is compulsory, to keep property within the family. Keep that up a few generations and all the nasty recessive genes will be bred out, no Deliverance scenario likely.)

So why is it stuff for fantasy?

I can undertand it as between steps -- the Westermarck effect doesn't operate there, since they're not raised together from childhood, and with the kind of mix-and-match families that have become normal since the Sexual Revolution, the world must be full of teenagers horny for their stepsiblings, that's normal. But why is there parent/child-brother/sister porn?

I mean written porn, of course. Video can't really break this taboo -- you can pair any two performers of more or less the same color and say they're related, but that cannot have whatever thrill people find in this.

My first errections and wanks were whilst I was listening to my parents fucking in the next room, my mum was a very loud fuck, and would walk around topless at home. I also had my first sexual experience with my sister, and lost my virginity to her. However it hasn't lead to an incest obsession. It was a fantastic experience, but just part of growing up.

 

[Niceguy2000]

For me the appeal is obvious.
In 95% of the stories, there is a happy ending.
Family members (in the Lit fantasy world at least) are not going to harm each other. )Not so much in real life incest).
Unlike most interracial and "Loving wives" stories here, the guy isn't some worthless a hole and run out on the woman.
Makes it easier for a happy ending.

 

[djole_i_mira]

The appeal is on individual basis. Everyone has their 'trigger' or soft spot.

With such a large community here there must be most certainly every representative of every 'weird' sexual behavior.

Family members (in the Lit fantasy world at least) are not going to harm each other.

Like @Niceguy2000 said.

And we are all looking for a happy ending like he also mentions.

In 95% of the stories, there is a happy ending.

The goal is 'a happy ending.' So one of the premises of a sexual encounter with someone from the family is that 'they are probably not going to hurt you.'

Now, real life abuse is something that happens in all of the different relationships that people have daily. At work, at school, out on the streets; in various degrees. There is no place that is safe from abuse for anyone. Not just today, but it always has ben.

Sexuality, as something that is very personal and intimate, needs some kind of 'safe space' to develop, to mature, to be practiced in. As for the actual act, be it S&M, BDSM, LGBTQ+ or whatever 'flavor' of sexuality kink, fetish or practice, it still needs that safe space. Be it a dark dungeon, or a nice bedroom or patio.

So, taking into account the predisposition that parents, siblings, family members, care for each other; which is not a given in life but is almost always in incest stories, it allows for the participants to feel less fear and give more freedom of expression of one's cravings and allow for wider range of sexual 'bacchanalia', then a casual relationship with some stranger.

Incest stories propose an understanding, shared experiences, mutual values already developed and understood between the family members that are participating in the sexual activities. They are exposing, discovering their sexuality, and are involved in something, that is already something to be done behind closed doors, adding to it the taboo factor and the secret of the tryst; amplifying the whole act to something that is completely on another level in comparison to some casual encounter with some one-night stand. So giving it almost always a happy ending; which most of us are looking for.

 

[JonathanBair]

The appeal is on individual basis. Everyone has their 'trigger' or soft spot.

With such a large community here there must be most certainly every representative of every 'weird' sexual behavior.


Like @Niceguy2000 said.

And we are all looking for a happy ending like he also mentions.


The goal is 'a happy ending.' So one of the premises of a sexual encounter with someone from the family is that 'they are probably not going to hurt you.'

Now, real life abuse is something that happens in all of the different relationships that people have daily. At work, at school, out on the streets; in various degrees. There is no place that is safe from abuse for anyone. Not just today, but it always has ben.

Sexuality, as something that is very personal and intimate, needs some kind of 'safe space' to develop, to mature, to be practiced in. As for the actual act, be it S&M, BDSM, LGBTQ+ or whatever 'flavor' of sexuality kink, fetish or practice, it still needs that safe space. Be it a dark dungeon, or a nice bedroom or patio.

So, taking into account the predisposition that parents, siblings, family members, care for each other; which is not a given in life but is almost always in incest stories, it allows for the participants to feel less fear and give more freedom of expression of one's cravings and allow for wider range of sexual 'bacchanalia', then a casual relationship with some stranger.

Incest stories propose an understanding, shared experiences, mutual values already developed and understood between the family members that are participating in the sexual activities. They are exposing, discovering their sexuality, and are involved in something, that is already something to be done behind closed doors, adding to it the taboo factor and the secret of the tryst; amplifying the whole act to something that is completely on another level in comparison to some casual encounter with some one-night stand. So giving it almost always a happy ending; which most of us are looking for.

I agree it is the "safe place" as if you think about it you open your self up so much with a lover, and in a way a family member like siblings or parent would be someone that you can always count on hopefully...What can be safer then a person who loves you for who you are even before adding the complex layering of sexual drive to it... As long as both parties agree to deepening there relationship. Also I would think it is nice if you know your lover is just down the hall from you on the nights you do not sleep together.

 

[wifes_fag]

I fooled around with my niece when she was 12 and I was 14. And her friend Tangerine. Her mom (my sister in law) worked at the court house in downtown LA and had to leave about 6:30. I had went out in August and spent a semester in school with them. That itself was quite an experience. I came back right before Christmas. Seen lots of things and done lots of things out there. When her mom left she would come get in bed with me. Her friend who lived down the street would come over about 7. She was wild too. I would eat their little pussies and fuck them in the ass. I knew better than poke the front one but I sure wanted to. She had a brother a year older than her and I had to suck his dick to keep him quite about it. Lisa and Tangerine wanted me to dress up as a girl for Halloween. Her mom liked the idea and fixed me up real pretty. It was my first crossdressing experience and I loved it. She took me out running around as a girl all afternoon. I think she liked it about as much as me. She took me to a huge Sears store. In the parking lot she asked me if I was ok wearing the dress into the store and how I felt. I told I felt wonderful. She said I looked great not to worry and lets go. God it felt great. just being a girl and nobody noticing. She took me by and showed me to her friend Bridgette. Then that night me and Lisa went trick or treating with two boys. We sucked their dicks in a side yard of a house. It was all so much fun. I always wondered what would have happened if I had spent more time there.

 

[OedipusOfThebes]

Mark Twain once said "There is a charm about the forbidden that makes it unspeakably desirable".

Incest has been around since the beginning of mankind, both consensual relationships and the abusive ones.
Royal incestuous marriages (siblings, father-daughter, mother-son) occurred across various ancient cultures (Egypt, Inca, Japan, Korea), and in Europe during the Renaissance (first cousins).

In the 21st century, in couple countries like Spain, France, Netherlands, Russia, Brazil & others, consensual incest is legal and/or not prohibited as long as it's between adults

 

[LFM90]

Every boy should go back inside his mommy