Inter-racial

[fallen lover]

But what's the point of that, you may as well not be interested in the whole feild if it doesn't really make a difference to you which is which. That's like someone who is into PVC going to something advertised as a PVC-fetishists Convention, only to find everyone wearing denim or silk and in some cases woolly-cardigans, and saying things like

'Well, it don't really matter does it, we like clothes made from a variety of materials. Who cares anyway, this silk dress is just as pretty as that PVC body-sock over there'

Which would leave our poor PVC-freak standing there like an idiot in his gimp-suite he wore specially for the occasion because he thought he would be hanging out with other dedicated PVC-specificists.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Re: I second the sentiments...

As for story ideas, I think it would be interesting if someone could write a story where you know that the people are from different races, but aren't quite sure which.

You're on!

 

[Lovepotion69]

I'm feeling like a hypocrite. On one hand I think there are too many interracial stories where the combination is black-white, but then I start writing a story myself and end up with a black male character.

Hm, on the other hand I haven't stated what ethnicity the female character is...

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Fallen Lover wrote:

... I'm also kinda sub anyway, and like stories where the black guy is in the power of the white woman (servants, farmhands and janitors etc) and especially like it when he goes down on her...

Stories with a somewhat domineering White female character and a Black male character who is under her spell are quite rare. In fact I can't immediately recall ever having read one.

However I have this recurring dream about being romantically/sexually involved with a White woman of high social standing, and a penchant for being slightly domme and altogether kinky.

At times she will be embodied as Nigella Lawson (with whom I am quite smitten), or a younger oh so very WASPy Martha Stewart or even a late 20's - early 30's Hillary Rodham Clinton.

 

[MagicJohnson3333]

Re: Re: I second the sentiments...

You're on!

Thanks, Svenska. I patiently await... [tapping fingers]

 

[destinie21]

Fallen Lover wrote:

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... I'm also kinda sub anyway, and like stories where the black guy is in the power of the white woman (servants, farmhands and janitors etc) and especially like it when he goes down on her...


As a black woman I tend to shy away from stories in the IR category because of the aforementioned themes. I'd like to state first and formost that the dark skin against lighter skin is beautiful and I enjoy the contrast. and I am atrracted to all races. but I hate stories where the black man or woman has to be a servent or janitor or something like that. First of all because it suggests that these jobs are somehow "lower" than other jobs and also because more often than not the author will imply that being with black or darker person is somehow debasing. To me it's just as ludacris as saying that the only attractive white woman is one who has blonde hair fair skin and blue eyes.

If a story is well written and not racially bias that's another story
then I'm happy to read it but these are so few and far between that I rarely see one so as I stated unless I know of an author who writes such stories or unless they've come highly recommended I tend to stay away from them.
Incidently I'm currently working on an F/F IR story that will be submitted shortly

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

destinie21 wrote:

... more often than not the author will imply that being with black or darker person is somehow debasing ...

Now that is what I call an understatement.

 

[BlackSnake]

Yup! But as I strive to over come that by trying to only imply the race. Here is a piece of crap I started with a black man, a white man, and a white women in a pool:



Eric went down to the pool for a nighttime swim. It had been hot all day and he needed a cooling off. He drank one to many beers and wanted to sober up a bit. A couple was already in the water splashing water at each other. Empty beer bottles laid around a cooler and towels.

“Hey, you want to come swim with me?” the girl asked from the water.

Eric looked at her and then the guy.

“Go ahead,” the guy said hanging onto the edge of the pool. “She’s just a tease any way.” He laughed.

“Tease!” the girl shouted back at the guy splashing water at him.

Eric jumped in the water and came up between the two of them.

“Com’on,” the girl said to Eric as grabbed his shoulder and pulled him to her. “I’ll show you tease.” She wrapped her legs around his waist and maneuver to the front of him. “Now, how do you like that?”

Eric hadn’t expected this, but he found it easy to go along with anything. He moved his hands to her butt.

“You still haven’t done anything, but start teasing him,” the guy laughed.

Eric caught on to what they where talking about and was eager to play along with his hands on her ass.

“I’m not teasing am I?” she asked Eric.

He slid his fingers under her and touched the crotch of her bikini bottoms. “Hope, I don’t think she’s teasing,” Eric said to the guy.

“All she’s going to do is get you hard, and then she’s not going to do anything,” the guy said.

“O’ yeah!” she said splashing water at the guy.

Eric kept his fingers on her crotch. He was bouncing around to keep his balance.

The guy reached pulled the string on top causing it to come completely loose and the girl quickly grabbed her tits to hold them in place. “See I told you,” the guy laughed. “Just tease.”

The girl took her top tossed it to the side of the pool. “I’ll show you tease,” she said.

Eric moved the crotch of bottoms to the side and worked a finger into her cunt.

“Tell him if I’m teasing,” she said to Eric.

“She’s not teasing man,” Eric said he pulled string on trunks and released his cock.

“I told you I’m not teasing,” she shouted at the guy again and splashing more water.

She was moving around so much that Eric had to put his hands back on her butt to hold on to her.

“I’m telling you,” the guy said convincingly. “As soon as you think you’re getting some where, she going to pull away.”

“You don’t know what you’re talking about,” she said splashing water.

Eric had bounced around enough until he was able to place his feet firmly on the bottom of the pool. He pulled the crotch of her bottoms aside again and moved his cock to her pussy.

“You’re the one that’s going to miss out, if you keep acting like a jerk,” she shouted at the guy again.

Eric pulled her down on his cock, but it was difficult for him to pump it in and out. He pulled the string on her bikini bottoms and she pulled them free, but held them in her hands. Eric continued moving towards the steps at the shallow end of the pool, but kept their bodies submerged.

“Come over her and see if you don’t believe me,” she shouted at the guy.

Eric made it over to the steps where he sat with her in his lap. He slowly pumped his cock in and out trying not to be too obvious.

“You’re really missing out on this tease,” laughed and tossed her bottoms at him.

The guy retrieved the bottoms and swam over to them.

“I knew that would shut you up,” she laughed.

The guy came up next to Eric and the girl and kissed her. The guy massaged her tits while Eric thrust his hard cock into deeper. The girl took out the guy’s cock and began stroking it.

“Let’s turn around,” she said getting off of Eric, but still holding on to the guy’s cock.

The guy sat up on the side of the pool and she took his cock in her mouth. Eric moved in behind her and sunk his cock deeper into her pussy than he could before.

“Hey, save some of that for me buddy,” the guy joked.

Eric laughed, but he wanted to she the girl sucking on his cock. It took him awhile, but he finally recognized her. He had tried speaking to her several times, but she would always look the other way and hurry into her apartment. He pulled out of her cunt and smiled at the guy. “There you go,” he said. He changed places with the guy. When the girl’s lips wrapped around the head of his cock, it was the most beautiful sight he had ever seen. He held the girl’s hair and thrust his cock into her mouth.

The guy pumped his cock into the girl’s cunt like a rabbit. With in minutes the guy shot his load in her. The guy looked at Eric to indicate that he was finished. Eric pulled the girl off his cock by her hair. She took the guys cock into her mouth as soon as he presented it to her.

Eric now had motive and opportunity. He started pumping his cock slowly in and out and then gradually increased his tempo. He began grunting with each stroke as he pounded the girl’s cunt.

The guy looked at Eric and smiled as if he was happy with the way Eric was fucking her. Eric had a lot of penned up frustration. He pounded her to the point where she could no longer hold the guy’s cock in her mouth.

The girl cried out, which made the guy laugh. It was clear that the guy liked seeing the girl fucked like that. The guy got up and began gathering their things. He came back with a cigarette and sat to watch Eric dish out his punishment.

“Nicole, look here,” the guy said.

There was a blinding flash. Eric closed his eyes, but continued pounding away at the girl. The guy continued to take pictures. The girl lifted her hand to hide her face, but the guy continued pressing the button on the Polaroid.

The guy chuckled at how long and hard Eric fucked the girl. The girl bit down on her lip and closed her eyes tight as her cunt was stretched and pounded.

Eric drove his cock as deep as he could nearly...

 

[sweetnpetite]

Latin Lovers

How about Mexican and white or Mexican and black? I see a lot of possability here.

 

[bearlee]

Fascinating stuff-I've done them both ways and the scores on the more romantic stuff between a black man and white woman have been pretty good. But, the nastiest one I wrote was the one that scored the highest. Always get the regular two or three anonymous feedbacks giving me hell about writing it in the first place. Just those the racists that don't read them at all. At first it was all rough stuff toward a white woman and then an older, black gentleman sent me a thoughtful feedback and I tried it the other way. Worked fine. Just the site and as mentioned, the taboo stuff that gets people I guess and doing what a person wants to do but would never normally do unless forced I guess.

 

[sweetnpetite]

We live in a WASP-controlled world. I once read somewhere that there's supposed to be a hierarchy among races, where light races rank high, and dark rank low. According to this list, white would be on top, followed by Asian, then Arabians and Latinos, and black at the bottom.

According to this theory, I should be supreme ruler of the universe- my skin tone is Casper. Course I'm just a girl so that puts me back down to basicly nothing. Oh well.....

 

[sweetnpetite]

Re: I second the sentiments...

As a black man, I have dated several women of different races, which I happen to find fascinating. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE Black women, but meeting and learning about women from different races and cultures thrills me like nothing else.

As for story ideas, I think it would be interesting if someone could write a story where you know that the people are from different races, but aren't quite sure which. Since neither wants to ask and be embarrassed or offend the other, they both make their own assumptions based on conversations, phrases used, food and music, but they keep changing their minds along the way. It's not until the end of the story that they, along with the reader, finds out what their races actually are; and by then, they are so in love that the race doesn't matter anyway.

Think "Seinfeld", when Elaine thought the guy was Black, and he thought she was Latina. At the end they both realized they were White, and went to the Gap!

I love the idea of that Seinfeld episode. One could even do a celebraty story and lift it right out of the episode, just adding the sex.

Or of course you could take the basic idea and write it out as a non-celebraty story, so as not to give the punchline away.

I had a neighbor who was absolutly beautiful. I thought she was some exotic mix of races because she looked white but- well exotic. Turned out she was half black and half white. Her sisters both look black, and she looks like her ethnicity is somewhat mysterious. I think that could make an exighting story as well.

Also, if you are writing a longer story (not just a scene basicly) you could have a character who goes through a variety of races, enjoying each of there diferences, learning about there cultures and families as he goes along. And they teach him about his own speacial culture that he always took for granted, because they have an outsiders view. (sounds like a good novel or novella) I like this idea so much, someday I might even write it myself! But anybody else is welcome to it too. I may never even get around to it, and even if I did, the stories would be very differnt I'm sure.

 

[Maleko]

What actual mature dialogue??

well, finally!

i've been thirsty for dialogue between different ethnicities on written erotica: story ideas, points of views, desires, just general conversation without all the same tired stereotypical views.

i've been very intrigued with not necessarily only black and white characters but characters of all ethnicities and cultures and the infinite amount of storylines that can be born from such goupings.

i'll keep an eye on this thread.

when you have some time, check out a story i posted recently. i have warned before that if one is looking for a quick, porn fuck type of read with a bunch of, "Oooooohhhs!!" and "Yyyeeeesssss!!!" - this is not the story for you. lol

hope you enjoy for those who read

The Price of Passion: When Control Slips Away
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=97808

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Speaking of white and Black... Have you finished OotP yet, Sweet?

 

[LorriLove]

hiya

destinie21 wrote:


Now that is what I call an understatement.

you got it honey, and i don't know why they do this, why do authors of interracial have to make out the black guy is a moron and semi rapist with only debasing himself and his white or whatever lover on his mind.

why can't we hear of a nice gentle seduction between black and white, a fun time, not this bloody business of the black man wanting to punish the white woman in some way by brutalising her.

that's all i've ever seemed to see in low budget interracial of the kind that makes literotica a lot, a few exceptions of course among the higher educated authors, black and white.

it just aint true in real life, believe me on that point, and i aint telling you in public how i know, giggle.
let's just say, i have this friend, ahem, who told me......................

 

[fallen lover]

Fallen Lover wrote:

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... I'm also kinda sub anyway, and like stories where the black guy is in the power of the white woman (servants, farmhands and janitors etc) and especially like it when he goes down on her...


As a black woman I tend to shy away from stories in the IR category because of the aforementioned themes. I'd like to state first and formost that the dark skin against lighter skin is beautiful and I enjoy the contrast. and I am atrracted to all races. but I hate stories where the black man or woman has to be a servent or janitor or something like that. First of all because it suggests that these jobs are somehow "lower" than other jobs and also because more often than not the author will imply that being with black or darker person is somehow debasing. To me it's just as ludacris as saying that the only attractive white woman is one who has blonde hair fair skin and blue eyes.

If a story is well written and not racially bias that's another story
then I'm happy to read it but these are so few and far between that I rarely see one so as I stated unless I know of an author who writes such stories or unless they've come highly recommended I tend to stay away from them.
Incidently I'm currently working on an F/F IR story that will be submitted shortly

You are completely right, I agree, the thing is that debasement can be fun so, playing upto popular coceptions of debasement for fun is..no more then that. In reality it is not my philosophy that darker is lesser, and in fact when I encounter stories that don't specifically turn me on in their particular 'flavour' of debasement, I feel no interest or arousal. Basically I guess it's using a certain kind of thinking for my own satisfaction, and nothing more. Like the film Everything you ever wanted to know about sex but was afraid to ask, where the Rabbi reveals his fantasy of being whipped by a gentile prostitute while being made to eat pork. It's the 'wrongness' of it, perhaps even the politically incorrectness' of it that arouses.

 

[Allanon_the_Druid]

I'd like to see more inter-racial that shows appreciation for differences instead of disgust. A lot of times the interracial stories I've seen portray the darker character as dirty in someway, as if the pretty little white girl is "slumming" or "lowering herself." While I suppose this works from the "taboo" point of view, I'd much prefer to see her (or his) exitement of there differences than her revultion. As a side not, I wonder if these types of stories do as well in the votes (assuming that they are equally as well written) and if they generate more hate male than the other kind.

*It doesn't have to be all romantic and lovey either, I like rough wild naughty taboo stuff and I'd like all that stuff worked in, just not based on skin tone.

Does this make sence and does anybody have any stories like this, or want to write some?

Thanks!!!!

Although the main theme of my story "Paying for Passage" is non-consent and not strictly interracial, it does have a sub plot that I am now expanding in the next chapters (Hopefully to be submitted to Lit this weekend). But reading some of the ideas here, the wheels are turning on some very different directions I could go. I would love to hear thoughts...

 

[billie-asub]

Come on, people. We're talking about fiction here. Comments that "most of the people that write these stories are white men who hate women" are sort of silly. Do you also think that most murder mysteries are written by murderers? I'm a white male (sort of)...and I have written some of these stories, but let me assure you, in every story I have written (so far nothing that I thought was worth putting in the Literotica collection) I fantasize that I am the main female character. Always. And in spite of amature psychologists, I don't think I hate myself. Nor, as one person in this thread suggested, am I subliminally revealing my desire to be submissive to a black male...there is nothing subliminal about it; nor is it because I think blacks are somehow inferior, because I don't.

One of the things I think you're all missing here is that some of these stories, not many, but some, are written by women and some by blacks (no offense meant here...substitute Afican-American if you feel better).

This is fiction, fantasy...it is a genre. Yes, the suggestions to write a "loving" inter-racial story are good...but that is another genre. The stories that you are discussing here fit the genre they are intended to fit. And we should all take a little of the advice we always give the censors...if you don't like this type of story, then DON'T READ THIS TYPE OF STORY.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Yes, its fiction. Still I tend to agree with Science Fiction writer Thoedore Sturgeon who has said, "It doesn't matter what you write, what you believe will shine through." Degredation is not the genre, it is the theme. As such I suppose its ok as far as it goes, but it is not the only theme, and I merely expressed an interet in seeing other themes expressed within the genre. Themes like love, appreciation, excitment, ect. If you think that degredation is the only possible theme for inter-racial then I am sorry for you. What we have been talking about in this thred isn't ALL of the inter racial stories just a vast majority that do seem to reflect a certain racist and misogynistic attitude.

Come on, people. We're talking about fiction here. Comments that "most of the people that write these stories are white men who hate women" are sort of silly. Do you also think that most murder mysteries are written by murderers? I'm a white male (sort of)...and I have written some of these stories, but let me assure you, in every story I have written (so far nothing that I thought was worth putting in the Literotica collection) I fantasize that I am the main female character. Always. And in spite of amature psychologists, I don't think I hate myself. Nor, as one person in this thread suggested, am I subliminally revealing my desire to be submissive to a black male...there is nothing subliminal about it; nor is it because I think blacks are somehow inferior, because I don't.

One of the things I think you're all missing here is that some of these stories, not many, but some, are written by women and some by blacks (no offense meant here...substitute Afican-American if you feel better).

This is fiction, fantasy...it is a genre. Yes, the suggestions to write a "loving" inter-racial story are good...but that is another genre. The stories that you are discussing here fit the genre they are intended to fit. And we should all take a little of the advice we always give the censors...if you don't like this type of story, then DON'T READ THIS TYPE OF STORY.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Speaking of white and Black... Have you finished OotP yet, Sweet?

Yes I have, and I was very satisfied with it. Although I wasn't happy with the begining and some readers felt that it didn't get much better, I did. It was a lot less dark than I was expecting, considering the last one!

 

[billie-asub]

Sweetpetite...as I thought I had said, I have no quarrel whatsoever with your suggestion for a "different" kind of story. I think that would be fine. What I was objecting to, and I don't think you were one who did this, was the "putting down" of the other type of story, and the people who write and enjoy them. I have read many very sweet, romantic stories of interracial sex...and have enjoyed some of them. I don't think that "all stories have to be about degradation." But, I must admit, that I do enjoy a well-written degradation story. All I was trying to say is, there is no reason to push your agenda by critizing other people's taste. That's what leads to censorship.

Please...I am not trying to start a feud here....and this will be my final word on the subject. I do not have any published works on Literotica...so I should probably have kept my mouth shut...But if you would like to read a poor effort that I once made...go to Kristen's Archive, #20...and read "Bad Bank Robber." It was put on Kristen's site by someone else that claimed he wrote it, but I assure you...i did...and I'd love to have been billie.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I'm sorry if I sounded angry or ugly in any way. I do not want to start a fight either. I too enjoy a good degredation storyline. I mean all you have to do is read almost any one of my stories for that to be obvious. ANd degredation also has its place in inter-racial as well. Maybe you have been lucky and not come accross what we are speaking of. We are not trying to censor anyone, simply stating our oppinions. I don;t think that expressing a negative oppinion constitutes or leads to censorship- we are not advocating the removal of stories we don't aprove of, just venting our feelings about them. No hard feelings and happy reading

Sweetpetite...as I thought I had said, I have no quarrel whatsoever with your suggestion for a "different" kind of story. I think that would be fine. What I was objecting to, and I don't think you were one who did this, was the "putting down" of the other type of story, and the people who write and enjoy them. I have read many very sweet, romantic stories of interracial sex...and have enjoyed some of them. I don't think that "all stories have to be about degradation." But, I must admit, that I do enjoy a well-written degradation story. All I was trying to say is, there is no reason to push your agenda by critizing other people's taste. That's what leads to censorship.

Please...I am not trying to start a feud here....and this will be my final word on the subject. I do not have any published works on Literotica...so I should probably have kept my mouth shut...But if you would like to read a poor effort that I once made...go to Kristen's Archive, #20...and read "Bad Bank Robber." It was put on Kristen's site by someone else that claimed he wrote it, but I assure you...i did...and I'd love to have been billie.

 

[Allanon_the_Druid]

Inter-Racial

The next chapter in my story has hit the story pages now. It is a purely interracial segment. As the chapter is a direct continuation of the whole story, the beginning might be a little ambiquous to anyone who has not read the first 2 chapters, but it stands alone well enough. I would be interested in anyone's comments.

Paying for Passage Chapter 3 http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=101567

 

[hungry4punani]

I've really enjoyed, and would like to see more stories where a white man is dominated by a black woman.

 

[fallen lover]

Tough, not going to happen. I have decreed that from now on all interracial stories will feature dominant white females and black males. Other forms are hereby disallowed.