Just so you know - more Americans wanted Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump as POTUS

[QueenLevitra]

Nonsense, silly nigger the world is for whites.

Your kind will be gone, and paradise shall spread across the universe.

Here we go folks, the KKK in da house!

Donald sent them and only Donald can make them go back in the box.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Here we go folks, the KKK in da house!

Donald sent them and only Donald can make them go back in the box.

You do know that is Rory right?

 

[missemily]

I hope those Americans who overseas let there voice and knowledge be heard and outright drown the popular vote for Clinton. I would love to see America ignore the fact that Clinton got at least 1 million more votes then Trump.

I just want to see how well your system handles the fact that racist, sexist, loser who couldn't even make money on casino gets called out by the more informed and educated. Those that tend to live in other countries have bit more world experience then those then none and its well known the more educated you are the more likely you are to vote for the left

I still love how I can call out any Trump supporter, and the best they can do is duck and run. Conager how many times have challenged your beliefs and you've been unable to mount single defense.

Then again I am the human anathema in eyes of Trump supporter.

 

[Liar]

4 mill from those two states, estimated, 5 from the rest of the country....

Unlikely? Probably

But that doesn't change the fact this thread is premature at best....

And irrelevant in any case. Fact of the matter is that both of them got mediocre support. But Trump got his exactly where it electorally mattered. End of.

 

[Bray123]

Tl;dr

From the charts I've seen, the Rep vote was fairly static (fell slightly since the last election). However the Dem vote slumped. Like half of what it should have been expected.

So although the Reps disliked Trump quite a lot, they still turned out.

The Dems hated Clinton and stayed home, especially in the places where it counted.

 

[toubab]

And irrelevant in any case. Fact of the matter is that both of them got mediocre support. But Trump got his exactly where it electorally mattered. End of.

Correct. And one reason Trump got support where it mattered was he campaigned where it mattered. Wisconsin, for example. He campaigned on the ground there, asking for votes in person in the days before the election. Hillary was so sure she had it won she never set foot in Wisconsin.

 

[Green_Knight]

Our presidents are not elected at-large. They are elected by electors who are sent to the Electoral College by their respective States in proportionality to the populations thereof.

Why? This is the 21st century, FFS - it's not 1776.

Can't anyone in the US count beyond 538? Brexit might have been a stupid decision on the part of the British electorate but at least it was the actual votes cast that decided the matter.

You elect the leader of the free world on the basis of such a crap electoral system - instead, you make the US the laughing stock of the free world.

 

[BotanyBoy]

O yes the mob rule of democracy fear. Lets look at that.

Mob rule of democracy can only happen in one from of the many different forms of democracy and thats direct democracy.

And that's why the USA isn't a democracy.

However there are other forms of democracy which are much better and don't let someone win by just getting 24% of the popular vote (yes this is mathematically possible) or don't have fail rate of 7% (4 elections have had the person with the popular vote lose to someone who won the College)

I don't care.

 

[BotanyBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGTKN0DaxzQ

Ahhh gotta manipulate my words....and you speak of truth LOL

 

[Real_American21]

Here we go folks, the KKK in da house!

Typical shit from a damn spook...

 

[missemily]

And that's why the USA isn't a democracy.



I don't care.

And here ladies and gentlemen is Trump supporter

When present with facts he can't refute, he just outright denies them and even presents himself as not caring. Well heres the thing those facts do matter and you deny them all you want but one day everything will fail because people like you exist.

A lot of great minds over the years have wonder and ponder why things fail.

Well I will tell you. Apathy and anti-intellectualism.

Trump won not because of rallies or jobless or any of that. He won because you rather watch Kardashians and other shows of its ilk, then read a book. So to all those people who feel like you've been left behind. You haven't. Thats feeling of realizing that sitting around doing nothing means your entitled to nothing.

Go ahead Trump supports, as Canadian who you elected just barely effects me in negative way. Where going to get Keystone XL pipeline, the cost of our oil will go down and economy will go up for us. Before someone says well we will get the profits. No you won't, you can't force the Canadian government nor the corporations that actually drill and pump the oil to turn over there profits.

Also were already seeing more educated appreciates for immigration coming in.

Enjoy 4 years of president, who has a complete disdain for common person. He has openly told you over and over again the only people worth his respect are the ones that make themselves successful. Which last time I checked isn't the uneducated no-skill people that voted for him. In fact he likes using you guys and then not paying you.

 

[Ubiquitious_too]

And here ladies and gentlemen is Trump supporter

When present with facts he can't refute, he just outright denies them and even presents himself as not caring. Well heres the thing those facts do matter and you deny them all you want but one day everything will fail because people like you exist.

A lot of great minds over the years have wonder and ponder why things fail.

Well I will tell you. Apathy and anti-intellectualism.

Trump won not because of rallies or jobless or any of that. He won because you rather watch Kardashians and other shows of its ilk, then read a book. So to all those people who feel like you've been left behind. You haven't. Thats feeling of realizing that sitting around doing nothing means your entitled to nothing.

Go ahead Trump supports, as Canadian who you elected just barely effects me in negative way. Where going to get Keystone XL pipeline, the cost of our oil will go down and economy will go up for us. Before someone says well we will get the profits. No you won't, you can't force the Canadian government nor the corporations that actually drill and pump the oil to turn over there profits.

Also were already seeing more educated appreciates for immigration coming in.

Enjoy 4 years of president, who has a complete disdain for common person. He has openly told you over and over again the only people worth his respect are the ones that make themselves successful. Which last time I checked isn't the uneducated no-skill people that voted for him. In fact he likes using you guys and then not paying you.

And, all Hillary ever did was lie to ALL OF US.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And here ladies and gentlemen is Trump supporter

I'm not a Trump supporter LOL

I would have much rather had Johnson, Stein or even Sanders than Trump, anything but more of the same hoping for a different outcome that Clinton was.

I'm a "Fuck Hillary Clinton and the Wall St./UberCorp establishment she represents." supporter.

It's not the same as a Trump supporter.

Trump won not because of rallies or jobless or any of that. He won because you rather watch Kardashians and other shows of its ilk, then read a book. So to all those people who feel like you've been left behind. You haven't. Thats feeling of realizing that sitting around doing nothing means your entitled to nothing.

What's a Kardashian?

The only people feeling entitled are the Clinton voters who want more socialism, more entitlement to other peoples shit.

Enjoy 4 years of president, who has a complete disdain for common person.

We were getting that either way.

He has openly told you over and over again the only people worth his respect are the ones that make themselves successful.

So he is like most people.

IDK about you but I hang out with other upper middle class business owners and young professionals.

I don't respect gutter punks or 30 y/o hipsters still living in their moms basement. After working hard as fuck the last thing I want to do is listen to them bitch an moan about how they are entitled to my wealth.

Fuck them.

Which last time I checked isn't the uneducated no-skill people that voted for him.

The people that voted for him aren't uneducated or no-skill people.

Not having a PhD in Lesbian Dance Theory doesn't mean you're uneducated or don't have skills.

In fact he likes using you guys and then not paying you.

As opposed to Hillary who simply wanted to rob me at gunpoint?

I'll take my odds with something other than that same ol' shtick.

 

[toubab]

Guess what? In a few months the Republicans will control the White House, the House, the Senate, and the Supreme Court. And guess what else? In two more years from now their control of it all will undoubtedly be stronger, especially in the Senate, where they are favored in the next election, and on the Supreme Court, as justices die or retire. And guess what else? That strength on the Court will probably continue to grow even after that and last for decades. That's the enduring penalty the Democrats get for nominating Hillary Clinton as their standard-bearer this year. What a mistake.

 

[missemily]

I'm not a Trump supporter LOL

I would have much rather had Johnson, Stein or even Sanders than Trump, anything but more of the same hoping for a different outcome that Clinton was.

I'm a "Fuck Hillary Clinton and the Wall St./UberCorp establishment she represents." supporter.

It's not the same as a Trump supporter.

Gary Johnson the man that almost attacked a reporter just for asking question. Stein the woman who believes that president just can tell the Federal Reserve what to do, even though its illegal. Sanders now that he isn't running hes flip flopping on a lot issues he campaigned against or for.

A "Fuck Clinton and Wall Street/UberCrops not named Trump" is Trump supporter. Who if read his tax plan is all for Wall Street and UberCorps.

What's a Kardashian?

Yeah really believable on this one

The only people feeling entitled are the Clinton voters who want more socialism, more entitlement to other peoples shit.



We were getting that either way.

Yes how dare the president and Clinton give you healthcare. I mean who wants to be able to actual get help when sick.

How dare Democrats try to get some people have living wage and an actually education. I just finish watching VICE news video on how kids in Oklahoma are only getting 4 days of school due to tax cuts. A red state championing family values doesn't care if your kids even have an education.

So he is like most people.

IDK about you but I hang out with other upper middle class business owners and young professionals.

Maybe you should leave your bubble one day. There many people out there working to help others, so they don't end up left behind because of faults. But just keep up thinking about yourself.

Also I thought the middle class was destroyed by Obama's policy. Guess your bubble proves that bit of propaganda wrong.

I don't respect gutter punks or 30 y/o hipsters still living in their moms basement. After working hard as fuck the last thing I want to do is listen to them bitch an moan about how they are entitled to my wealth.

Fuck them.

No one is bitching for free meal ticket. People bitching about jobs. Those 30 y/o hipsters still living at home, have debt up to there eyeballs after going to college. There out, in same rat race as you. Maybe you should actually talk to one, instead of casting judgement on them.

The people that voted for him aren't uneducated or no-skill people.

Not having a PhD in Lesbian Dance Theory doesn't mean you're uneducated or don't have skills.

First off, am Bi

Second off, I never called you single name (okay I called you Trump Supporter if you want to count that as a name) and only gave you facts (which you just want to ignore). But you need to label people something that in your eyes is negative. Which to be honest with everyonehere , your posting on forum for website thats pornograhpic. You would like some PhD Lesbian Dance Theory classes Next time one comes up I make sure to invite you.

As opposed to Hillary who simply wanted to rob me at gunpoint?

Funny I thought Hillary wanted to take all guns away? So how is she going to rob you at gunpoint when all guns are gone? Maybe instead of just repeating the same things people Alex Jones and others of his ilk say you come up with your own rhetoric

I'll take my odds with something other than that same ol' shtick.

Except Trump is the same ol'shtick. Tax cuts to the rich, let companies pay less taxes, cut social security net, spend more money on bridges to nowhere, etc Maybe he even outdo Bush and crash the economy. I still remember when Bush came in he nation on the up, as in he surplus and he made into one of largest deficits ever and nearly wiped out world economy in 8 years

And, all Hillary ever did was lie to ALL OF US.

Yes Hillary lied. So did Sanders. Trump. Your teachers. Your best friend in high school.

However
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/

Liberal media rigging right?

 

[ifrtbttrflys]

The partisan bullshit never stops.

The last two presidential elections bore Democrat proclamation that the Republicans would never win the White House again, that it was only a matter of time before the Senate and Congress and, indeed, the entire nation was majority Democrat, etc. They said the Republican Party was done.

Today, the Democrat Party itself is in complete disarray, infighting breaking-out with demands that the younger, even more socialist among them be given leadership of the Party as the old Dems are shown the door.

And it's now Republicans, after winning the White House and keeping control of Congress and owning all nominations for the Supreme Court for the next two years at least, who are starting to crow about how America's future is all Republican.

What a bunch of fools.

After despicable words and gutter name calling from both sides in this election, now all the prime participants are shaking hands and complimenting each other as if their despicable words and name calling weren't really meant. As they keep lying through their teeth for political correctness sake because they truly do mean what they said about each other.

American politics reeks of blanket dishonesty and intentional deception. Which is exactly why both Partys will awake one morning and realize America has no need, no desire at all for either of them.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Gary Johnson the man that almost attacked a reporter just for asking question. Stein the woman who believes that president just can tell the Federal Reserve what to do, even though its illegal. Sanders now that he isn't running hes flip flopping on a lot issues he campaigned against or for.

All better than Trump, but Clinton is still at the bottom of the barrel.

Yes how dare the president and Clinton give you healthcare. How dare Democrats try to get some people have living wage and an actually education. I just finish watching VICE news video on how kids in Oklahoma are only getting 4 days of school due to tax cuts. A red state championing family values doesn't care if your kids even have an education.

It's not the states job to provide those things.

And if that's how the people of Oklahoma want to live, then let them.

Maybe you should leave your bubble one day. There many people out there working to help others, so they don't end up left behind because of faults. But just keep up thinking about yourself.

That's their bidniz.

I will....nobody else is going to pay my bills but me.

That's why I'm a have instead of a have not.

Also I thought the middle class was destroyed by Obama's policy. Guess your bubble proves that bit of propaganda wrong.

No the middle class was destroyed when (D)'s left the working class to pander for big money....Obama is just the latest and Clinton as rejected largely in part because of her long history as a Wall St. NeoLib.

My bubble is above that. Upper middle class is still around, feeling the wrath of big government shutting us out for the super rich but still here. If trump upsets enough shit I might even be able to break into that top tier bubble.

No one is bitching for free meal ticket. People bitching about jobs. Those 30 y/o hipsters still living at home, have debt up to there eyeballs after going to college. There out, in same rat race as you. Maybe you should actually talk to one, instead of casting judgement on them.

Bullshit, the entire left is looking for a free meal ticket. Edit: except the tiny group of elites who will get a contract to provide those meals via totally price gouging the shit out of the tax payers for them.

They have debt the Democrats put them in under the promise that their 150,000 dollar Lesbian Dance Theory degree would make them rich beyond their wildest dreams. Education is priceless!!!

First off, am Bi

Second off, I never called you single name. But you need to label people something that in your eyes is negative. Which to be honest with everyone here , your posting on forum for website thats pornograhpic. You would like some PhD Lesbian Dance Theory classes Next time one comes up I make sure to invite you.

I never called you a name.

What's negative in my eyes? Going into massive debt for an unmarketable degree? yea that's negative.

And I don't care, I'm asexual.

So how is she going to rob you at gunpoint?

It's called taxation.

 

[missemily]

All better than Trump, but Clinton is still at the bottom of the barrel.

Yes Trump the racist, sexist, who has openly admitted that he can rape someone.

It's not the states job to provide those things.

And if that's how the people of Oklahoma want to live, then let them.

Actually it is. State tax cuts to education has caused education to lag, hence why America has terrible education system. No nation has ever survived having an uneducated generation. None ever.

That's their bidniz.

I will....nobody else is going to pay my bills but me.

That's why I'm a have instead of a have not.

Am not asking you to not pay your bills. Nor am asking you to pay the bills for someone else.

Am asking you to talk to someone outside of your bubble. You have nothing to lose to talk to someone who don't normally talk to.

No the middle class was destroyed when (D)'s left the working class to pander for big money....Obama is just the latest and Clinton as rejected largely in part because of her long history as a Wall St. NeoLib.

Please explain how Democrats left behind working class? Yes in 2016 they thought they had Rust Belt locked up but then again Republican thought the Democrats did too.

Do explain, I hope that you be able to talk about serious issue serious tone. Just because were on the internet doesn't mean you have to toss mud at people who disagree with you.

My bubble is above that. Upper middle class is still around, feeling the wrath of big government shutting us out for the super rich but still here. If trump upsets enough shit I might even be able to break into that top tier bubble.

No Trump told me middle class was gone. Didn't exist, you guys were either in food stamp lines or about to start heading in one. Maybe Obama actually wasn't the end you guys thought he be. And OMG I just defended Obama.

Thats what it took. Trump to exist for me to defend Obama

Bullshit, the entire left is looking for a free meal ticket.

No its called allowing the environment to exist for upward mobility to happen. You want that to exist, you even just said so. You want to go from upper middle class to upper class. Social programs designed for 2 things in mind since Great Depression. (1) Prevent another depression, these things used to be common place and haven't happen in most Western Countries since Great Depression. (2) Assist people in need to stay a float and allow them to climb up the ladder

They have debt the Democrats put them in under the promise that their 150,000 dollar Lesbian Dance Theory degree would make them rich beyond their wildest dreams. Education is priceless!!!



I never called you a name.

Actually you have. Sat there heavily implied am lesbian because am an educated woman.

What's negative in my eyes? Going into massive debt for an unmarketable degree? yea that's negative.

Your right it is bad that people go into debt just to go to school to get degree with no marketable skills.

Maybe you as someone who believes he is successful should you know talk to high school kids and explain to them the choices they have to make.

It's called taxation.

Do you own a car? Do you drive it on not privately own roads? Do you like having police? Do you like having military that will fight for freedoms? Do you like camping nation parks where beauty of the country is preserved and protected?

 

[rainsol]

And here ladies and gentlemen is Trump supporter

When present with facts he can't refute, he just outright denies them and even presents himself as not caring. Well heres the thing those facts do matter and you deny them all you want but one day everything will fail because people like you exist.

A lot of great minds over the years have wonder and ponder why things fail.

Well I will tell you. Apathy and anti-intellectualism.

Trump won not because of rallies or jobless or any of that. He won because you rather watch Kardashians and other shows of its ilk, then read a book. So to all those people who feel like you've been left behind. You haven't. Thats feeling of realizing that sitting around doing nothing means your entitled to nothing.

Go ahead Trump supports, as Canadian who you elected just barely effects me in negative way. Where going to get Keystone XL pipeline, the cost of our oil will go down and economy will go up for us. Before someone says well we will get the profits. No you won't, you can't force the Canadian government nor the corporations that actually drill and pump the oil to turn over there profits.

Also were already seeing more educated appreciates for immigration coming in.

Enjoy 4 years of president, who has a complete disdain for common person. He has openly told you over and over again the only people worth his respect are the ones that make themselves successful. Which last time I checked isn't the uneducated no-skill people that voted for him. In fact he likes using you guys and then not paying you.

I m positive you did not listen to any of Hillary Clintons rhetoric or her minions either. They hate everyone and everything in America. Now put down your bong and sober up.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yes Trump the racist, sexist, who has openly admitted that he can rape someone.

Over the war hawk Wall St. whore?

I'll take it.

Actually it is.

No it's not. The attitude that it is, is the problem.

Nor am asking you to pay the bills for someone else.

That's EXACTLY what leftist and their philosophy are asking.

Am asking you to talk to someone outside of your bubble. You have nothing to lose to talk to someone who don't normally talk to.

I have time to lose and nothing to gain.

Actually you have. Sat there heavily implied am lesbian because am an educated woman.

No that's you're mind making shit up so you can be a professional victim.

Maybe you as someone who believes he is successful should you know talk to high school kids and explain to them the choices they have to make.

Once again, that's not my fucking job nor is it the states.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't have to do anything...

Yet you do.

Your dishonesty is now demonstrable, congratulations!

 

[missemily]

I m positive you did not listen to any of Hillary Clintons rhetoric or her minions either. They hate everyone and everything in America. Now put down your bong and sober up.

Actually I did. And even listen to Trump's vlog where he was in agreement to get into Libya and bomb them and take there oil.

Honestly yes you should hate what America has become and what it is doing. Just like I hate what my own country has become because I know it wants people able to do the same things.

Now don't want to get into but there is reason why I know such much about ongoing military programs and policies. And no am not implying I have access to Pentagon papers or anything of kind but I do know why since left school military has been eyeing me up and down.

Also my leader wants to legalize weed, so as good Canadian I will keep my bong up.

@BotanyBay

The fact you can't provide any evidence to single argument I make, only proves my whole point.

I will give you one thing, no matter how much evidence I presented to you, you stood your ground and fought hard for right to remain blissfully arrogant to world around you.

So till you provide evidence instead of slinging mud. Lesbian, victim, please go a head try to shame or scare me or both. I really don't care. People who know me know that you won't be able to do either of them.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Honestly yes you should hate what America has become and what it is doing.

We are, that's why we didn't elect Obama's successor and went a different direction.

@BotanyBay

The fact you can't provide any evidence to single argument I make, only proves my whole point.

Why would I provide evidence to your argument?

You have to provide your evidence.

I will give you one thing, no matter how much evidence I presented to you, you stood your ground and fought hard for right to remain blissfully arrogant to world around you.

It's not arrogance, it's fact based reality.

Facts can come off as arrogance because well, they can afford it, but that doesn't make them any less real.

 

[Ishmael]

And here ladies and gentlemen is Trump supporter

When present with facts he can't refute, he just outright denies them and even presents himself as not caring. Well heres the thing those facts do matter and you deny them all you want but one day everything will fail because people like you exist.

A lot of great minds over the years have wonder and ponder why things fail.

Well I will tell you. Apathy and anti-intellectualism.

Trump won not because of rallies or jobless or any of that. He won because you rather watch Kardashians and other shows of its ilk, then read a book. So to all those people who feel like you've been left behind. You haven't. Thats feeling of realizing that sitting around doing nothing means your entitled to nothing.

Go ahead Trump supports, as Canadian who you elected just barely effects me in negative way. Where going to get Keystone XL pipeline, the cost of our oil will go down and economy will go up for us. Before someone says well we will get the profits. No you won't, you can't force the Canadian government nor the corporations that actually drill and pump the oil to turn over there profits.

Also were already seeing more educated appreciates for immigration coming in.

Enjoy 4 years of president, who has a complete disdain for common person. He has openly told you over and over again the only people worth his respect are the ones that make themselves successful. Which last time I checked isn't the uneducated no-skill people that voted for him. In fact he likes using you guys and then not paying you.

Let's start with the fact that he's right. The United States is NOT a democracy. It's a Constitutional Republic with a strong democratic tradition.

And the fact that Hillary got more total votes than Trump is of no consequence either. That is PRECISELY the reason for the Electoral College. Purposely designed so that the large population centers couldn't 'lord' it over the rest of the nation.

As far as immigration goes, you don't seem to have a fucking clue. No one that I know is against immigration. The issue isn't, and wasn't, immigration. The issue is the flood of illegal aliens entering the nation. If you're not sure what I'm talking about, look up the word "illegal."

Ishmael

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Let's start with the fact that he's right. The United States is NOT a democracy. It's a Constitutional Republic with a strong democratic tradition.

And the fact that Hillary got more total votes than Trump is of no consequence either. That is PRECISELY the reason for the Electoral College. Purposely designed so that the large population centers couldn't 'lord' it over the rest of the nation.

As far as immigration goes, you don't seem to have a fucking clue. No one that I know is against immigration. The issue isn't, and wasn't, immigration. The issue is the flood of illegal aliens entering the nation. If you're not sure what I'm talking about, look up the word "illegal."

Ishmael

I would love to hear how Trump will get criminals to start following the laws.