"Let it collapse"

Yeah, he lost it a while back, now all he does is assign you your political views then goes full retard on you. It's like he thinks he knows everyone better than they know themselves.

Liar.

Example?
 
I had the high deductible Humana savings account plan. They sent me a notice in march that they are pulling out of Obamacare, so I scheduled an appointment with the insurance lady. Apparently I have no choice now, there's only one insurer. Also, during the 3 years I've had the plan my premium has more than doubled, and when I got that Humana savings plan I had to pay more for less coverage.

This is not an anecdotal story, I'm not the only person who had Humana.
 
My premiums went up quite a bit this year after trifling increases the past two years. I have good coverage though.
 
I get my HC from a doctor, I pay cash because he doesn't take insurance.




What pre-existing conditions? :confused:

Common know it all why don't you tell me my medical history since you know more about that than I do. :D


You said you had health insurance on top of coverage from the VA and you're paying cash?

You just make shit up as you go along.


Did you not claim to have ptsd?


Snip..

Although the Trump Administration’s Obamacare replacement plan has passed the House of Representatives, opponents of the American Health Care Act (AHCA) say that the new bill would allow states to discriminate against women. Under the AHCA, the states are allowed to grant insurance companies the power to deny coverage to a patient basis pre-existing conditions, including post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), sexual assault and domestic violence.
 
You said you had health insurance on top of coverage from the VA and you're paying cash?

You just make shit up as you go along.


Did you not claim to have ptsd?


Snip..

Although the Trump Administration’s Obamacare replacement plan has passed the House of Representatives, opponents of the American Health Care Act (AHCA) say that the new bill would allow states to discriminate against women. Under the AHCA, the states are allowed to grant insurance companies the power to deny coverage to a patient basis pre-existing conditions, including post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), sexual assault and domestic violence.
I suppose he figured that he'd probably lose his coverage and at the same time be spared from paying a penalty next year, so he canceled his policy. Myself, I would never bet on anything coming out of Congress.
 
You said you had health insurance on top of coverage from the VA and you're paying cash?

VA coverage is only for service related shit.

Yep, got that good shit.

Family doc doesn't take insurance anymore and a physical every year is cheaper than the deductible anyhow. It's basically for injuries/major disease.

You just make shit up as you go along.

No, you're just a presumptuous ass.

Did you not claim to have ptsd?

No the VA does. I don't consider enjoying my work in the military a sign of mental illness.

Snip..

Although the Trump Administration’s Obamacare replacement plan has passed the House of Representatives, opponents of the American Health Care Act (AHCA) say that the new bill would allow states to discriminate against women. Under the AHCA, the states are allowed to grant insurance companies the power to deny coverage to a patient basis pre-existing conditions, including post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), sexual assault and domestic violence.

LOL...let them cancel my shit because I enjoyed grunt life LMAO.

I gave them my medical records, I had to exempt my knee...VA owns that one but I had to pay a civilian doc to fix it after they fucked it up. Other than that there were no issues. Even get care flight insurance for 150/yr on a group buy with the neighborhood. ;)

I suppose he figured that he'd probably lose his coverage .

I don't really give a shit, I've gotten well over the fact that our HC system is a total scam. They keep covering me? I keep paying them....they stop I stop.

If I can't get any, oh well!
 
I had the high deductible Humana savings account plan. They sent me a notice in march that they are pulling out of Obamacare, so I scheduled an appointment with the insurance lady. Apparently I have no choice now, there's only one insurer. Also, during the 3 years I've had the plan my premium has more than doubled, and when I got that Humana savings plan I had to pay more for less coverage.

This is not an anecdotal story, I'm not the only person who had Humana.

Every post like this is always followed by more than one, "My premiums didn't do that."

The implication being that you are lying.

It's the go to...
 
I've read that women whose deductibles are so high they are turning to nurse midwives who can't administer any type of anesthesia instead of an OB/GYN delivery.

Higher premiums and lower quality of care...the exact opposite of Frodope's fairy tale.
 
Every post like this is always followed by more than one, "My premiums didn't do that."

The implication being that you are lying.

It's the go to...

It keeps coming back to, "If it's so God Damned great why is it going bankrupt and why does it need to be "fixed"?"

Ishmael
 
I had the high deductible Humana savings account plan. They sent me a notice in march that they are pulling out of Obamacare, so I scheduled an appointment with the insurance lady. Apparently I have no choice now, there's only one insurer. Also, during the 3 years I've had the plan my premium has more than doubled, and when I got that Humana savings plan I had to pay more for less coverage.

This is not an anecdotal story, I'm not the only person who had Humana.

The qualified high deductible plans should always have low premiums. I was excited to switch to one of these plans when it first came available to me. At my current employer, I can choose between the qualified high deductible plan and the PPO plan and the premiums are virtually the same. WTF! It's illogical.
 
It keeps coming back to, "If it's so God Damned great why is it going bankrupt and why does it need to be "fixed"?"

Ishmael

alright then, ish...

but can you not - in the same dismissive breath,
admit that...
now that the populace has tasted the (watered down) kool-aid
of proto-universal healthcare

some form of ... viable "universal" care - be it but over-squeezed pepsodent...
is now the desire of the mostly purple populace?

absolutists on the edges will shrillscream otherwise, but....

obama's most significant contribution to the american narrative has been this very basic challenge to:

a very large commercial enterprise that has become incredibly adept at creating product
and more and more exclusive at providing service.

at what point, if not the innovative healthcare apparatus that only this nation could foster
is not the proper 'taxation' some general benefit to the populace?

it is - despite what you may say - the desire...

and, i will submit...
a universal healthcare - of some fixed sort -
is indeed also an investment in further "exceptionalism"

or more basely...
a fixed aca is now the cost of doing cutting edged business.

fuck!
no one needs a "party win" on this issue now.
 
It keeps coming back to, "If it's so God Damned great why is it going bankrupt and why does it need to be "fixed"?"

Ishmael

I'll bet if you go back and look through the posts about Obamacare since it was passed the usual suspects were pontificating on how wonderful it was and the predictions about its eventual failure were racist.

Obamacare is a disaster. Unfortunately, but not unexpectedly the Obama lovers are too intellectually dishonest to admit it was doomed for failure from the very start. Too bad his name is attached to it.
 
I'll bet if you go back and look through the posts about Obamacare since it was passed the usual suspects were pontificating on how wonderful it was and the predictions about its eventual failure were racist.

Obamacare is a disaster. Unfortunately, but not unexpectedly the Obama lovers are too intellectually dishonest to admit it was doomed for failure from the very start. Too bad his name is attached to it.

That's great. Now explain in detail how the Republican plan is better and how it will save us from the disastrous Obamacare.
 
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