"Let it collapse"

[water505]

Obamacare brought medical care to millions of Americans, saving lives and saving families from financial ruin. So fuck Trump, and you.

Where do you get this stupid shit from?

How do you save people from financial ruin by tripling their premiums and raising deductibles to the point where their insurance is useless?

ACA absolutely DID NOT bring medical care to millions of Americans. That's preposterous. What it gave them was useless insurance which didn't even begin to cover the cost of medical care.

 

[water505]

As predicted no information leftists are blaming Republicans for the collapse of Obamacare. It wouldn't even cross their narrow minds to blame it's failure on the party which created it.

So typical.

Don't accept responsibility for anything. Always blame someone else.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

As predicted no information leftists are blaming Republicans for the collapse of Obamacare. It wouldn't even cross their narrow minds to blame it's failure on the party which created it.

So typical.

Don't accept responsibility for anything. Always blame someone else.

Exactly. They care. They are compassionate. They have good intentions and should not be responsible for outcomes.


Besides, as we all know, the outcome can't be good when Sauron/Hitler puts the full weight of his hate against you in order to defeat you...

 

[water505]

Exactly. They care. They are compassionate. They have good intentions and should not be responsible for outcomes.


Besides, as we all know, the outcome can't be good when Sauron/Hitler puts the full weight of his hate against you in order to defeat you...

It's really pathetic....kind of like a child blaming her doll for stealing from the cookie jar.

 

[Aglaopheme]

He switched to the DNC over that, 4 out of the top 5 fact checking sites found on a google search said officially no republicans voted for it.

Shitting on it, sure they own that.

Different person, but you are right the one Rupublicsn that voted for the ACA changed his vote on the final draft.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It's always a triple treat to watch Botany Boy, 4est_4est_Gump and Queerbait505 attempt to deflect blame. A master's class in evasion and deception.

#TheyTrySooooHard
#ButButVonMises

 

[cleaver]

Problems for the red team included that they were convinced that Trump would lose, so why have a serious plan? We must also include that they were limited by the 60-vote rule as to what they could and could not do without being stopped by the blue team. There is also the problem of moderates who want to keep all the goodies of the ACA and the clash between the conservatives who want to take some of that away. There were the red team governors who expanded medicaid in order to get "free" (short-term) government money further limiting the options palatable to everyone. And the one last lingering problem is that there is a large segment of the red team that would rather enjoy seeing Trump wounded, weakened and ready to be primaried in 2020.

thank you.
this is the politic of politics...

lit is no place for such nuance.
i haven't the breath any longer to elaborate so here...
there is no payoff.

to quote djt... "so saddddd!"

health care... i.(unfortunately)e. - the aca
lives on as a golem...

the red team hasn't the balls (nor apparently the talent) to correct its faults
the 'tell' is on the congressional red team...
the reality is... that despite what some may desire, a kind of universal healthcare is the general desire...
i.(illustrative) e. - the general populace is more 'socialist' on this point...
... or so, constituencies seem to register (?)


... and rhetoric is best for igniting short term fires

the new new is something more purple than any of the absolutists wish to consider...

"so sad" that the nuances of politics don't digest in 30 minute/ hourly eye-time tv nuggets...

 

[phrodeau]

Where do you get this stupid shit from?

How do you save people from financial ruin by tripling their premiums and raising deductibles to the point where their insurance is useless?

ACA absolutely DID NOT bring medical care to millions of Americans. That's preposterous. What it gave them was useless insurance which didn't even begin to cover the cost of medical care.

Subsidies, dumbass.

 

[cleaver]

Subsidies, dumbass.

dumbass subsidies

/fyp/

 

[cowslinger64]

Repealing Obamacare alone would leave 32 million more uninsured - CBO

snip:


According to the CBO, a nonpartisan office that analyses pending legislation, 17 million Americans would lose health insurance alone in 2018 with a repeal while premiums on individual insurance plans would rise 25 percent next year and double by 2026.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-r...er-bipartisan-healthcare-talks-125827491.html


You guys that think that's not a problem, really are dumb...and most likely receiving at least some sort of gubmint healthcare. FUCK YOU! I GOT MINE!

 

[BotanyBoy]

You guys that think that's not a problem, really are dumb.

Oh look....cowslinger the commie name calling people who don't want to pay for other folks shit.

Shocking.

 

[cowslinger64]

Oh look....cowslinger the commie name calling people who don't want to pay for other folks shit.

Shocking.

and look, botany boy says something stupid.

I'm sorry your job at Mcdonalds doesn't allow you to pay taxes and smoke too much dope.. but the fact is, availability of healthcare is important to millions. You guys really talk out your ass way too much.

 

[BotanyBoy]

and look, botany boy says something stupid.

I'm sorry your job at Mcdonalds doesn't allow you to pay taxes and smoke too much dope..

Projection.

but the fact is, availability of healthcare is important to millions.

TRUE@!!

But none of that is my problem.

You guys really talk out your ass way too much.

More shit talk and surprise surprise no substance.

 

[cowslinger64]

Projection.



TRUE@!!

But none of that is my problem.



More shit talk and surprise surprise no substance.

You NEVER have any substance, and you are a broken record. Why bother trying to discuss anything intelligently with you? You didn't even look at the story I posted..

There was a time when you had smart things to say, now you're just another miles/vette/bizzydummy.

I pay for YOUR healthcare, why should I have to? YOU are MY problem. You get your healthcare from the same gubmint as those getting ACA. That's exactly what I mean about the fuck you I got mine... And with the pre-existing conditions you claim, there is no fuckin way you have private insurance.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You NEVER have any substance, and you are a broken record. Why bother trying to discuss anything intelligently with you? You didn't even look at the story I posted..

Said the childish name caller and I read it earlier.

There was a time when you had smart things to say, now you're just another miles/vette/bizzydummy.

Ahh so I'm smart as long as I agree with you but otherwise I'm stupid.

LOL, the height of communist arrogance.

I pay for YOUR healthcare,

No, you don't.

why should I have to? YOU are MY problem.

You shouldn't and no I'm not.

You get your healthcare from the same gubmint as those getting ACA.

I get my HC from a doctor, I pay cash because he doesn't take insurance.

That's exactly what I mean about the fuck you I got mine...

The made up bullshit you created about me? LOL ok.

And with the pre-existing conditions you claim, there is no fuckin way you have private insurance.

What pre-existing conditions?

Common know it all why don't you tell me my medical history since you know more about that than I do.

 

[water505]

It's always a triple treat to watch Botany Boy, 4est_4est_Gump and Queerbait505 attempt to deflect blame. A master's class in evasion and deception.

#TheyTrySooooHard
#ButButVonMises

After a brief respite from his normal putrid self, FuckWadDownSouth returns to being the despicable little prick everyone has come to know and despise.

What a miserable pile of dog squeeze.

 

[water505]

Subsidies, dumbass.

LMAO!

You wouldn't know a subsidy if it landed on your pointy little head.

 

[VeraBad]

Charles and David Koch are spending millions to LET(?) ACA collapse.

That's a lot of red Solo cups (one of their products).

 

[OldJourno]

According to the CBO, a nonpartisan office that analyses pending legislation, 17 million Americans would lose health insurance alone in 2018 with a repeal while premiums on individual insurance plans would rise 25 percent next year and double by 2026.

You guys that think that's not a problem, really are dumb...and most likely receiving at least some sort of gubmint healthcare. FUCK YOU! I GOT MINE!

Is this the same CBO that predicted passage of Obamacare would result in a $1 trillion reduction in spending over a decade? Oops.
BTW, gubmint doesn't provide health care, it just makes it more expensive.

 

[VeraBad]

Is this the same CBO that predicted passage of Obamacare would result in a $1 trillion reduction in spending over a decade? Oops.
BTW, gubmint doesn't provide health care, it just makes it more expensive.

Yeah, like mandatory auto insurance.

 

[phrodeau]

I'm glad that I'm not BotanyBoy's neighbor. No telling what pathogens might drift over his fence.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

thank you.
this is the politic of politics...

lit is no place for such nuance.
i haven't the breath any longer to elaborate so here...
there is no payoff.

to quote djt... "so saddddd!"

health care... i.(unfortunately)e. - the aca
lives on as a golem...

the red team hasn't the balls (nor apparently the talent) to correct its faults
the 'tell' is on the congressional red team...
the reality is... that despite what some may desire, a kind of universal healthcare is the general desire...
i.(illustrative) e. - the general populace is more 'socialist' on this point...
... or so, constituencies seem to register (?)


... and rhetoric is best for igniting short term fires

the new new is something more purple than any of the absolutists wish to consider...

"so sad" that the nuances of politics don't digest in 30 minute/ hourly eye-time tv nuggets...

The wicket gets stickier, it just looks like McConnell has a reliable voter down for the count...

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm glad that I'm not BotanyBoy's neighbor. No telling what pathogens might drift over his fence.

 

[MGurkus]

As predicted no information leftists are blaming Republicans for the collapse of Obamacare. It wouldn't even cross their narrow minds to blame it's failure on the party which created it.

So typical.

Don't accept responsibility for anything. Always blame someone else.

Trump is president, trump owns it now, quit trying to blame everything on dems, you guys only control 3 branches of government yet you still blame dems for your party's incompetence.

PS
Shut the fuck up, miles.

 

[MGurkus]

I'm glad that I'm not BotanyBoy's neighbor. No telling what pathogens might drift over his fence.

Yeah, he lost it a while back, now all he does is assign you your political views then goes full retard on you. It's like he thinks he knows everyone better than they know themselves.