Liberals' Descent into Moral Nihilism

[Pure]

Factoid of the Day.

Massachusetts was founded with entire identification of church and state, i.e., it was a crime not to attend church (the Puritan one) on Sundays. The 10 C were laws.

Massachusetts entered the union, ratified the constitution and the Bill of Rights, largely leaving those structures intact. The Commonwealth of Mass continued to financially support the Church, and there was, iirc, a Christian requirement for holding office. None of this being contrary to the Bill of Rights, First Amt. in particular.

What you don't 'get' Sher, dear, is that the idea of the state's being neutral regarding the encouragement of (and support for) morality, fits neither the Puritan (or now, Evangelical, many of them), nor the Catholic positions in Christianity, and is at odds with the Islamic approach to the state.

In short you're WAY out in left field, nihilistically speaking. And a substantial minority-- perhaps soon a majority-- of Americans disagree with you, not to say, Saudis, Afghanis, Pakistanis and on.

In simple terms the Harper formula or 'coalition' based on values is consonant with much of the world, and much of 'America.' Hence the increasing Republican (kissing cousins) dominance of governorships and the nation offices and congress.

 

[rgraham666]

A moral government would be Atticus Finch: strong, wise, quiet, restrained in its anger; a role model of such dignity that its enemies feel shame.

In the real world, Atticus Finch would not have lived to the end of the novel. His enemies would kill him so they could stop feeling that shame.

As Lucifer knows, it's much, much easier to be evil than good. In fact, it often takes no effort at all.

 

[amicus]

A brief reply from the 'idiot neo con' that drops in from time to time.

Talk about the Liberals and the Democrats denying their base.

There never was such a thing as 'make love not war?' The party of the Pacifists? no 'anti-war' campaigns or groups.

No 'consciencious objectors' No Mondale, no Jimmy Carter, no Hubert Humphrey, no Geraldine Ferraro, no George McGovern?

Surely you jest.

Sorry Colleen, you were right all along. One thing you must know about the 'nihilistic' relativistic liberal left, is that words have no 'true' absolute meaning. They can be used in any manner chosen.

Once upon a time there was a party proud of their 'anti war' position, where oh where have they gone...all the flowers that is.

(a small enclave is in hiding in Hollywood, daring to peep out only at election time)

amicus

 

[shereads]

Nevermind.

There's been a sincere attempt in a dozen or more posts by different people here, to make a distinction between being "anti-military" and demanding some accountability in the way the defense budget is spent. How anyone could happily call himself "pro-war" is not even worth examining. Every normal person is anti-war unless the motives for war are unassailable.

Amicus isn't about to acknowledge any of the well-researched and thoughtful posts by others here, nor is he going to contribute anything but riddles and verbiage. So why pretend to debate.

Here's a bumper sticker idea for our neocons:

"Liberate with extreme prejudice."

 

[Pure]

I'll pass on amicus list of CO's including Jimmy C. Had always thought Jimmy was in the military. Damn I thought Kerry was too. Amicus turns out facts like a bean eater turns out farts.

Sher, you never did say why you want a morally uninvolved state?
And where did you get such a passe idea? JS Mill or some other commie pinko?

PS. Howcum Reaga'ns sale of war materiel to the Iranians doesn't count as moral nihilism?

 

[shereads]

I'll pass on amicus list of CO's including Jimmy C. Had always thought Jimmy was in the military. Damn I thought Kerry was too. Amicus turns out facts like a bean eater turns out farts.

Sher, you never did say why you want a morally uninvolved state?
And where did you get such a passe idea? JS Mill or some other commie pinko?

PS. Howcum Reaga'ns sale of war materiel to the Iranians doesn't count as moral nihilism?

Because it didn't involve sex, silly, just hostages; and because the money from the sale was going to fight Communism.

 

[shereads]

I'll pass on amicus list of CO's including Jimmy C. Had always thought Jimmy was in the military. Damn I thought Kerry was too. Amicus turns out facts like a bean eater turns out farts.

Sher, you never did say why you want a morally uninvolved state?
And where did you get such a passe idea? JS Mill or some other commie pinko?

PS. Howcum Reaga'ns sale of war materiel to the Iranians doesn't count as moral nihilism?

Because it didn't involve sex, silly, just hostages; and because the money from the sale was going to fight Communism.

Also, we were selling war materials to Iraq in violation of the embargo to which we were signatory, so selling to Iran was only fair.

 

[Pure]

Update: In case anyone is interested in how the fight against moral nihilism is going in Canada:

SURPRISE: The Conservative, Harper, the values man (cut taxes, beef up the military, help out in Iraq, get queers out of theway) is neck and neck in all polls, and thus will possibly be the next Canadian Prime Minister.

Michael Moore, for those of you who follow that pacifist agitator, was up in Canada expressing worry that a GWB soul brother was so close to winning.

Mostly Harper has shut up on abortion**, etc., though he did accuse the Liberals of being 'soft' on child porn. The main issue sinking the Liberals and boosting the Conservatives is corruption.

I will explain the 'child porn' row, if anyone is interested.

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**Not an expression of disinterest, but a concealment of his and his party's intentions. He has said, on an abortion law, he'll allow a 'free vote' (i.e., NOT one based on party discipline).

 

[shereads]

The Conservative, Harper, the values man (cut taxes, beef up the military, help out in Iraq, get queers out of theway) is neck and neck in all polls, and thus will possibly be the next Canadian Prime Minister.

Yet another opportunity to sing the hit single from the landmark fillm, "South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut."

Blame Canada

Times have changed,
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents,
They just want to fart and curse.

Should we blame the government, or blame society, or should we blame the images on tv No!
Blame Canada! Blame Canada
With all their beady little eyes,
their flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!

We need to form a full assault, it's Canada's fault! Don't blame me, for my son Stan, He saw the darn cartoon, and now he's off to join the klan!

And my boy eric once, had my picture on his shelf, but now when I see him, he tells me to fuck myself

Well, Blame Canada!
It seems that everything's gone wrong since
Canada came along
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
They're not even a real country anyway.

My son could of been a doctor or a lawer, it's a true, Instead he burned up like a piggie on a barbecue
Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire, or the doctor who allowed him to expire. Heck no!
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!

With all their hockey hubaloo and that bitch Anne Murray too.
Blame Canada!
Shame on Canada!

The smut we must stop
The trash we must smash
Laughter and fun
must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before someone thinks of blaming us!

 

[Pure]

Moral Nihilism Reigns in Canada, after Election

It appears the values laden Conservatives have been beaten back by the nihilists. Liberals have the basis for a minority gov.

The last few days, a negative Liberal ad campaign stressed looming deficitis, and cuts in health care and education; they were able to link this agenda to two provincial premiers.

The 'new Conservatives' are, however, revitalized, and have 90 odd seats out of about 310.

 

[rgraham666]

Hold on to your hats, baby! It's gonna be a bumpy ride!

On the plus side, the Conservatives usually hate one another as much as they hate the Liberals. In my opinion they stand a good chance of self destructing before the next election.