Nobody is doing gender-reassignment surgery on minors.
Looks like transgenders are going to have to go through everything gays did
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It is not a mental illness.
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You're a liar, or hopelessly ignorant. Minor means under 18, not under 12. Children 12-17 can and do get gender reassignment surgery. If you really believe what you just said, you might give this website a try sometime...
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Well, it's not going to get any better in this administration:
United States President Donald Trump has issued an executive order that bans transgender girls and women from participating in women’s sports in schools and other educational settings.
The directive, titled “Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports”, is the latest addition to a series of new executive actions that have shone a focus on gender debates within the US.
After signing the order in the White House’s East Room on Wednesday, Trump declared that “the war on women’s sports is over”.
The order instructs the Department of Justice to oversee a ban on transgender girls or women from participating in female-designated school athletics or using women’s locker rooms. If schools fail to adhere to the policy, they could lose federal funding.
The directive hinges on a specific interpretation of Title IX, the US law that forbids sex discrimination in education, which now defines “sex” as the gender someone “was assigned at birth”.
United States President Donald Trump has issued an executive order that bans transgender girls and women from participating in women’s sports in schools and other educational settings.
The directive, titled “Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports”, is the latest addition to a series of new executive actions that have shone a focus on gender debates within the US.
After signing the order in the White House’s East Room on Wednesday, Trump declared that “the war on women’s sports is over”.
The order instructs the Department of Justice to oversee a ban on transgender girls or women from participating in female-designated school athletics or using women’s locker rooms. If schools fail to adhere to the policy, they could lose federal funding.
The directive hinges on a specific interpretation of Title IX, the US law that forbids sex discrimination in education, which now defines “sex” as the gender someone “was assigned at birth”.
See here.
July 8, 2024—A new study by researchers at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health found little to no utilization of gender-affirming surgeries by transgender and gender-diverse (TGD) minors in the U.S. The study also found that cisgender minors and adults had substantially higher utilization of analogous gender-affirming surgeries than their TGD counterparts.
The study was published on June 27 in JAMA Network Open. According to the researchers, it is the first quantitative comparison of gender-affirming surgery utilization between cisgender and TGD populations.
Previous research has consistently demonstrated that gender-affirming care for TGD people can be lifesaving in mitigating negative mental health outcomes such as depression, anxiety, and suicidality. Data has been limited, however, around the rates at which TGD youth are undergoing gender-affirming care, including surgery. Despite this uncertainty, in recent years, twenty-five states have banned gender-affirming care for TGD minors. This fall, the Supreme Court will rule on whether such bans are constitutional.
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do you have any idea of the processes involved in changing gender identity? Have you worked or lived or spent any extended time with transgendered people? Your views appear to stem from extreme ignorance of the topic so, perhaps, there's hope for you yet.
your mad assumption that transgenders will 'never feel sexual pleasure' is, quite simply, 100% wrong.
The majority of trans kids (pre-treatment) are fully aware of how the person they are inside doesn't match up with the body they inhabit... to force them to go through puberty (if they are already quite clear in their minds about it all and have had the psychiatric counselling involved in such situations to root out mental health issues or other problems) and develop the secondary sexual characteristics of the sex they don't belong to is cruel. Reassignment surgery is only done after extensive medical care and psych evals, when they are over 16, generally over 18. Puberty blockers are there to prevent the kind of emotional pain that is involved; when kids are faced with such trauma alongside other socially-impacting treatment they may receive from their peers (due to a lack of understanding of the subject), it's not unusual for suicidal thoughts and depression to take hold. The child is free to stop taking the puberty blockers should they decide they were wrong—a rare, though not isolated event.
Despite the breathless pearl-clutching of the right-wing and magat deplorables, with the possible exception of those whose parents display mental health problems such as the one you mention, children today are far less likely to be forced to believe they are a gender anything other than the one they know themselves to be. I feel such sorrow for children brought up by parents who only accepted the fixed binary as denoted by a penis or a vagina. THOSE were the kids forced into being who they weren't.
It is not populist leaders who do that. Looking at recent history, Carter restored normality after Nixon/Ford, Clinton restored normality after Reagan/Bush, Obama restored normality after W, Biden restored normality after Trump.
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Bottom surgery is extremely rare even among adult trans people you ugly skank. It is never done on minors you vacuous whore.
Read once in a while you might learn something.
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True, but irrelevant to the discussion.
That's wrong and I hate it. If only we didn't browbeat our presidential candidate into supporting gender reassignment for children then maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.
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Nobody browbeat Harris into supporting gender reassignment for children. I never heard her say a word about that.
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Fair, but she didn't say a word against it, either.
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They are for a fact doing breast amputations on minors. See Congressional testimony of Chloe Cole.
Chloe Cole (born July 27, 2004[1]) is an American activist who opposes gender-affirming care for minors and supports bans on such care following her own detransition. She has appeared with conservative politicians and in the media, supporting and advocating for such bans.[2][3][4] Cole says that she began transitioning at 12, having undergone treatment which included puberty blockers, testosterone, and a double mastectomy at age 15.[5]
"Unusual" is not the same as "abnormal." Trans, intersex and homosexuals are normal in that they keep coming up in every human nation and culture, and in every human (and in every nonhuman vertebrate) generation -- they have always existed, and they always will exist.
And whatever Democrat follows Trump will restore normality, which is not what we have now.
This is a somewhat rational and fair response; Rare from the incel creeps on this board, of which you thankfully don't appear to be one. (So, thank you for that.)
This whole transgender issue is VERY complex, and it really sucks to see it politicized to the extent that it has been. This has only complicated the issue, making these people pariahs, or pawns in a political tug of war. It is complex because gender dysphoria is a relatively rare syndrome. My heart goes out to those who struggle with gender identity. It is certainly nothing new, but it has been politicized to such a degree that it is far more visible now than in the past.
My opposition to transgendered men->Women playing women's sports stems from practical reasons, not from a place of simple "Anti-woke" bigotry. People born anatomically male have denser bone and muscle structure, and this puts anatomically female athletes at risk of injury when competing against them. Think, as a parallel, of the user "noitall" going up against, say, Travis Kelce in a flag football game. Noitall would get steamrolled and perhaps badly injured. This issue was all over the news when a San Jose State volleyball player competed against multiple all-anatomically female volleyball teams, causing them to forfeit in protest. I felt bad for the SJSU player but nonetheless I understood and agreed with the decision of the opposing teams to forfeit- I felt bad for everyone involved.
And, to your point, I would agree that generally speaking, gender reassignment surgery on minors would be a grave mistake. Young people go through phases, and often don't really know who they are or what they want to be. Even worse, when some schools- with the best and most noble of intentions, mind you- try to discuss these gender issues at ages where it may not be appropriate, this may cause some kids to openly question their gender identity- and perhaps lead them to make a premature, catastrophic and irreversible mistake. However, I am not a doctor or a psychologist. I cannot give an expert opinion here. It's the kind of thing where a parent should consult with multiple doctors and psychologists before making such a decision, and I would argue that such a decision Should not be made by anyone under 18- who is simply too young to know who they really are yet.
I guess, I hope people realize I am addressing this from a far different "anti" perspective than all the known anti-trans bigots on this forum.
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See, that's what I was trying to say. It is extremely rare, and when I see certain Hollywood actresses or people on tv or twitter with two or three children they claim are trans... what are the odds of that? It's pretty clear that a lot of the trans kids you hear about are actively pushed that way by parents who are mentally ill or, worse, deliberately using the child for media attention. Parents should consult psychologists? Parents who want their kids transitioned should submit to a psychological examination themselves, for the child's safety. Can you give me an example where you think gender reassignment for a child should be permissible because you implied there were such cases? I am not able to think of compelling reasons why a child cannot wait.
My sympathy in the sports debate has always been with the trans athletes, but I can't deny you raise a compelling point. I am a woman who has learned the hard way that we really are physically no match for men (granted, I am not an elite athlete or even strong for a woman) and trans women share a lot of those same traits of strength and speed with men. I don't know. I don't know what to think about that. It's a hard situation.
Thank you for your thoughtful response, PaxNurgle.
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DuBois was referring to people like you, Einstein.
No. You have a confused picture here. The overclass is not culturally conservative people. The overclass is the ruling class, the plutocracy. I'm sure you are not in it. But Trump is in it.
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Well well another west coast faggot to be blocked
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Have you been living under a rock since 1985?
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The Democrat party disrespected and underrepresented the other 94% of the American people. That's why they lost.
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Poor wat must go through what the gays did
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Musk has a trans daughter.
Mental illness runs deep in that family.
Mental illness runs deep in that family.
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