Los Angeles stands up to ICE

[SgtSpiderMan]

If you read into the article what Trump was referring to was the National Guard being mobilized under title 10 to actual engage protestors. Under the 'POSSE COMATATUS' certain declarations have to be made by the president of the United States, one being enacting the 'insurrection act' another invoking 'Martial Law'. In 2020 he refused both.

The active duty status for national Guardsmen today is strictly defensive, for the protection of federal property and federal law enforcement. THEY ARE NOT CLOSING with PROTESTERS OR RIOTERS. LAPD, the sheriffs department and CHIPS are handling protesters along with some federal law enforcement. Difference today is that federal law enforcement are there in force, being on the scene allow US attorneys to play a larger role in that federal charges in federal courts will give prosecutions some teeth.

I believe the Marines are not bound by the 'Posse Comitatus act'.

Lessons were learned from 2020 riots. Having active duty soldiers on site is a wise move.

Should of happened J/6.

The president doesn't have to coordinate with governors to activate National Guard to protect federal real estate. That being said, working with governors is the preferred way. Newsom is such a poor leader, he wanted to make Trump look bad by stalling. Trump waited for 2 days for the mayor to mobilize LAPD to assist federal agents and Newsom played politics.

Like I said earlier, things changed in 5 years. Lessons learned from 2020, Politicians grow wiser over time. IMHO

So we both agree that Trump did not campaign on this and in fact campaigned on the opposite. Thanks for clearing that up and admitting you were wrong.

 

[Rebel5soul]

You were discussing the LA police chief making a statement.

But sure......

I said nothing about the LAPD chief.

 

[ll74]

The money sources have been identified and the FBI/DOJ are going after them.

Ok, sorry I was thinking of your twin Horatio.

Why did you respond to my comment then?

The money sources have been identified and the FBI/DOJ are going after them.

This was in response to me asking for his source about the police chief

 

[MajorRewrite]

I have no way to verify this

Totally fact-free HumpDay.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Some common sense from an LA County Supervisor.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933056033624371594

 

[icanhelp1]

So we both agree that Trump did not campaign on this and in fact campaigned on the opposite. Thanks for clearing that up and admitting you were wrong.

You sound like you’re AOK with what trump is doing. As far as Dems promoting violence, what exactly do think trump is up to sending 4700 military personnel to a few blocks of LA uninvited and unneeded?

He campaigned on it and it was very popular, probably won him the the election.

Upholding the law and is well within his authority.

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Wrong, you're delusional. He campaigned on enforcing immigration law and mass deportations.

You twisted my post to mean something other than what I actually posted.

I never wrote he campaigned on using the military. Jomar wrote two different thoughts.

Upholding immigration laws was part his campaign strategy. In this case he used the military to protect federal property and federal employees doing their job.

One is a campaign promise and the other is a reaction to the situation on the ground.

You love playing word games. You post an article from 2020 which has zero relevance to the topic at hand. 2020 is not 2025.

 

[icanhelp1]

Some common sense from an LA County Supervisor.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933056033624371594

Democrat politicians are batshit crazy. Sanctuary status doesn't grant states or local governments the authority to craft their own immigration policy.

Common sense is very uncommon within the democrat ranks.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Democrat politicians are batshit crazy. Sanctuary status doesn't grant states or local governments the authority to craft their own immigration policy.

Common sense is very uncommon within the democrat ranks.

They're democrats. Their stock in trade is lies and misstatements.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

He campaigned on it and it was very popular, probably won him the the election.

Upholding the law and is well within his authority.

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Wrong, you're delusional. He campaigned on enforcing immigration law and mass deportations.

You twisted my post to mean something other than what I actually posted.

I never wrote he campaigned on using the military. Jomar wrote two different thoughts.

Upholding immigration laws was part his campaign strategy. In this case he used the military to protect federal property and federal employees doing their job.

One is a campaign promise and the other is a reaction to the situation on the ground.

You love playing word games. You post an article from 2020 which has zero relevance to the topic at hand. 2020 is not 2025.

Except it was just shown he campaigned on the opposite.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

They're democrats. Their stock in trade is lies and misstatements.

Remind us, what has Trump done to protect all those dogs and cats?

 

[schism666]

Some common sense from an LA County Supervisor.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933056033624371594

another dumb blond magatard says dumb racist shit and twerps lap it up

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

The governor made a brief attempt to remove homeless camps for his presidential run. He can stop running now.

The last time I drove from Napa to San FranSicko, the homeless encampments ran close to ten miles on the frontage road leading into Oakland and the bay bridge.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

That sounds like you read that online and can provide the URL to the page you're on.

But whatever

Do your own research…oh yeah, I forgot…you don’t know how to run the internet…

 

[ll74]

Do your own research…oh yeah, I forgot…you don’t know how to run the internet…

Of course. You want me to not read your sources because you know they're bullshit

Got it.

Or are you just too lazy to copy paste a URL?

Question - when telling people about a book your read, do you tell them to Google it when they ask for the book title and author?

NVM, you don't read books.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Do your own research…oh yeah, I forgot…you don’t know how to run the internet…

LOL. That wouldn’t be your own research.

 

[ll74]

LOL. That wouldn’t be your own research.

You mean finding other people's opinion articles isn't research?

 

[schism666]

You mean finding other people's opinion articles isn't research?

only if it affirms their narrative

 

[dmallord]

Unfortunately, I couldn’t find how to post a google search results link. If you know how I’m all ears. In the meantime this is a bit unkempt and incomplete, but you get the idea, trump is multi-tasking, not just about immigration

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Says a lot that you don’t support the first amendment.

I appreciate the effort you put into sourcing this for us. Unfortunately, glaring facts get in the way of some whose viewpoints are so set that they remain unchanged.

'... not even going to argue taht bullshit' is as dissmissive of the rights of others as Trump's own words on the matter.

Ican't's counter post is a case in point. Does the President have to uphold the Constitution? That's a simple answer, yet it is met by Trump's response of I don't know. It gets in the way of what he wants to do. 'They elected me to get rid of migrants, millions of them.' In Trump's mind, following due process impedes doing that; ergo, he's dismissive of Constitutional rights.

A failed presidency on just that aspect alone. And... 'I'm not arguing that bullshit that says otherwise.'

How does a person reasonably claim to support a man who blatantly violates the Constitution and laws, and support such a President without feeling some remorse?

It is mind-blowing to know that the highest-serving individual in the land feels he can waive the Constitution if it impedes his goals.

 

[dmallord]

What he says off the cuff and what he does are two different situations. It is very obvious and Trump makes it very obvious that he will abide by court decisions and work the system. He will appeal to congress to put district court judges back in line and appeal his cases in succession to the higher courts. In many cases district court judges are wrong but once a decision even if wrong it interferes with article II authority. District court judges that are overruled by higher courts should pay a price for being wrong.

It's not clear at all. You can judge that by Trump's and his cohorts' actions.

Let’s be clear: the National Guard in LA has been activated by President Trump under Title 10, not by Governor Newsom. That puts them under federal control and makes them subject to the Posse Comitatus Act, which strictly limits their role to support functions, not arrests or detentions.

Reports are that they’re detaining citizens or directly intervening with protesters, violating both the law's spirit and letter.

The Marines, meanwhile, are reportedly on standby, with their deployment floated by the Secretary of Defense without any invocation of the Insurrection Act. This isn’t routine. It’s legally and politically provocative.

There’s no clear evidence they’re protecting federal facilities. There’s no clear federal emergency. So if they’re being used to fill the gaps where state law enforcement handles crowd control, we’re staring down a serious breach of federal law — and an erosion of civilian-military boundaries that should concern everyone, regardless of politics.

 

[DeluxAuto]

There are now more US military in California than the middle east.

 

[Lance_Castro]

There are now more US military in California than the middle east.

That’s always been the case.

Luk lies like an American and she bleeds just like a woman.

Hahaha!

 

[butters]

Trump Voter Gets Choked Up After ICE Detains a Third of His Staff

Florida: small roofing company owner sees a third of his staff detained for deportation after ICE raid... supports most of trump's policies but wasn't expecting his own 'legally here' staff to be snatched

Vincent Scardina supported Donald Trump’s tough stance on immigration at the ballot box. But that decision came back to bite the roofing boss when ICE detained a third of his workforce.

The six men, all from Nicaragua, were pulled over in a work truck on May 27 while heading to a job—and carted off to jail.

Adding to Scardina’s annoyance, the men had valid work permits and pending asylum applications, according to their attorney Regilucia Smith. “They are legally here,” she said. “Valid work permit, not even close to expired… again, no criminal records—not here, not in Nicaragua.”

get a clue, man, trump doesn't care

and he's not alone:

Scardina isn’t alone. He says other contractors in the area are being hit hard too. “I know of one landscaper that lost nine or 10 of his whole crew he had and he’s just totally out of business all of a sudden, just like that.”

and then there's this: Eerie silence hangs over Central Coast farm fields in wake of ICE raids

Silence was better than the chaos that had broken out Tuesday when immigration agents raided fields in Oxnard and fanned out across communities in Ventura and Santa Barbara counties that grow a considerable portion of the state's strawberries, avocados and celery.

While agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Border Patrol showed up at food production sites from the Central Coast to the San Joaquin Valley, much of the activity centered on the Oxnard Plain. Maureen McGuire, chief executive of the Ventura County Farm Bureau, said federal agents visited five packing facilities and at least five farms in the region. Agents also stopped people on their way to work, she said.

In many cases, according to McGuire and community leaders, farm owners refused to grant access to the agents, who had no judicial warrants.

California, which grows more than one-third of the nation's vegetables and more than three-quarters of its fruits and nuts, has long been dependent on undocumented labor to tend its crops.

I doubt the targeting of Californian producers is just a coincidence. Someone, somewhere, not liking Cali's defiance of trump, is doing all they can to make Cali less profitable, less productive, less "successful."

 

[DeluxAuto]

That’s always been the case.

Luk lies like an American and she bleeds just like a woman.

Hahaha!

What?

 

[Politruk]

Do your own research…oh yeah, I forgot…you don’t know how to run the internet…

Only the most worthless, coontemptible of cranks ever say "Do your own research."

 

[Politruk]

In many cases district court judges are wrong but once a decision even if wrong it interferes with article II authority. District court judges that are overruled by higher courts should pay a price for being wrong.

It would be unconstitutional to make a judge "pay a price" beyond having a decision overruled.