Los Angeles stands up to ICE

[Politruk]

Ah, so you're good with January 6th?

Doesn't count. Civil disobedience is when you resist, not when you attack. The Weather Underground was not into civil disobedience.

 

[jomar]

During the BLM riots the majority of protesters during the day were peaceful and at night the protest turned into riots, became uncontrollable. I know you think you can quantify people and their actions but you can't!. Even though a majority of people peacefully protesting it doesn't equate to less collateral damage. 2 billion dollars worth of damage and hundreds of small businesses were destroyed and several people killed. Large crowds afford cover for violence. Many protesters getting in the face of law enforcement should not be classified as peaceful. Taunting law enforcement is not peaceful. If 5,000 people peacefully protest and the city burns to the ground then those 5,000 aided their own demise. How many immigration enforcement actions in California were falsely categorized by lying media, described as innocent migrants being falsely detained when in reality convicted criminals were rounded up on criminal warrants. The lie spreads and riots happen.

Just listen to democrat leadership, they are promoting violence veiled in the old bumper sticker slogan 'democracy is crumbling'.

You sound like you’re AOK with what trump is doing. As far as Dems promoting violence, what exactly do think trump is up to sending 4700 military personnel to a few blocks of LA uninvited and unneeded?

 

[Politruk]

Many protesters getting in the face of law enforcement should not be classified as peaceful. Taunting law enforcement is not peaceful.

Of course it is -- what kind of snowflakes are they?!

 

[DeluxAuto]

Mad violence, yo.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/571707775679234/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Mad violence, yo.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/571707775679234/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

I'm so proud of my city!

 

[icanhelp1]

You sound like you’re AOK with what trump is doing. As far as Dems promoting violence, what exactly do think trump is up to sending 4700 military personnel to a few blocks of LA uninvited and unneeded?

He campaigned on it and it was very popular, probably won him the the election.

Upholding the law and is well within his authority.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

He campaigned on it and it was very popular, probably won him the the election.

Upholding the law and is well within his authority.

He campaigned that he would send the military into cities against American citizens??

 

[jomar]

He campaigned on it and it was very popular, probably won him the the election.

Upholding the law and is well within his authority.

Well, I hope you and other MAGATs are satisfied when he destroys democracy, rips the constitution in half, and becomes president for life.

 

[Politruk]

He campaigned on it and it was very popular, probably won him the the election.

Upholding the law and is well within his authority.

But it is illegal for him to send in Marines, and illegal to federalize the NG without first consulting with the governor.

 

[jomar]

He campaigned on it and it was very popular, probably won him the the election.

Could be. He definitely ran on a xenophobic platform.

Upholding the law and is well within his authority.

Yeah, except people who aren’t under the influence are one voice in saying what he’s done sending in unsolicited military is so far outside of normalcy and historical precedent that it might actually be illegal. Your boy wants an excuse to invoke the insurrection act so he’s just fine fanning the flames by escalating, which is what ramping up the extraditions to 3,000 a day (want to take a guess what % they’ll get wrong) and unnecessarily sending in the troops is doing.

 

[icanhelp1]

He campaigned that he would send the military into cities against American citizens??

He campaigned on dealing with illegal migrants and yes, if it takes the military to keep order he did campaign on that also. The military is in a defensive posture, but nice try.

 

[icanhelp1]

Well, I hope you and other MAGATs are satisfied when he destroys democracy, rips the constitution in half, and becomes president for life.

More fire! fire! hair on fire!

 

[Politruk]

More fire! fire! hair on fire!

You know very well he would do all of that if he could.

 

[Politruk]

He campaigned on dealing with illegal migrants and yes, if it takes the military to keep order he did campaign on that also. The military is in a defensive posture, but nice try.

A military force used for domestic policing is not in a defensive posture.

 

[icanhelp1]

But it is illegal for him to send in Marines, and illegal to federalize the NG without first consulting with the governor.

Perhaps take a closer look at the law.

A military force used for domestic policing is not in a defensive posture.

Domestic policing?

 

[icanhelp1]

Could be. He definitely ran on a xenophobic platform.


Yeah, except people who aren’t under the influence are one voice in saying what he’s done sending in unsolicited military is so far outside of normalcy and historical precedent that it might actually be illegal.

Protesting ICE and other federal agents for upholding and enforcing immigration law is outside the norms.

Your boy wants an excuse to invoke the insurrection act so he’s just fine fanning the flames by escalating, which is what ramping up the extraditions to 3,000 a day (want to take a guess what % they’ll get wrong) and unnecessarily sending in the troops is doing.

Blame Biden!

 

[DeluxAuto]

Watch this, bitches.

Hypocrisy is the only shit you stupid fucks know.

 

[Politruk]

Domestic policing?

That is what they're doing in LA.

 

[Politruk]

Perhaps take a closer look at the law.

See the Posse Comitatus Act.

 

[jomar]

More fire! fire! hair on fire!

A tad dramatic, perhaps. That said, you have blinders on because he’s trampling all over democracy and the constitution in his authoritarian efforts.

Protesting ICE and other federal agents for upholding and enforcing immigration law is outside the norms.

Protesting is absolutely within the norms as a first amendment right. What they’re protesting is the cruel, authoritarian, lack of due process, and anti-rule of law way ICE is doing it at trump’s behest.

Blame Biden!

You’re going to have to explain this one.

 

[icanhelp1]

A tad dramatic, perhaps. That said, you have blinders on because he’s trampling all over democracy and the constitution in his authoritarian efforts.

How is he trampling all over the constitution? States are illegally trampling over immigration laws. The federal government has all authority concerning immigration, that’s the law of the land. Read up on the supremacy clause.

Protesting is absolutely within the norms as a first amendment right. What they’re protesting is the cruel, authoritarian, lack of due process, and anti-rule of law way ICE is doing it at trump’s behest.

Bullshit, I’m not even going to argue that bullshit.

You’re going to have to explain this one.

 

[icanhelp1]

That is what they're doing in LA.

No there not!

 

[Politruk]

No there not!

What they're doing is domestic policing. And it is illegal to use Marines for that purpose.

 

[Noor]

But it is illegal for him to send in Marines, and illegal to federalize the NG without first consulting with the governor.

Actually only the governor is supposed to be able to send in their own states national guards.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

He campaigned on dealing with illegal migrants and yes, if it takes the military to keep order he did campaign on that also. The military is in a defensive posture, but nice try.

He actually campaigned on the opposite.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-said-t-deploy-national-223947002.html