Lyrics...objectification of women and me

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[Hypoxia]

... lyrics can be powerful, but often times they are just overlooked and overshadowed by a catchy beat or cool melody.

I sang many songs, even played guitar, without really focusing on the lyrics. I look back some years later and think, "What crap!"

Frank Zappa said something to the effect that lyrics are only in songs because USA pop music demands them, that music without words just isn't listened to. Look at lists of #1 hits over the past few decades -- damn few instrumentals there. Lotsa words, especially dumb ones, riding on interesting instrumental tracks. That's show biz, folks.

 

[NotHisLady]

It's amazing how much I got into songs ("oh, ah, just a little bit" was one of them) then felt a total reversal about enjoying the songs after seeing a kid singing them.

I never felt that bad about "pour some sugar on me" and don't want to even imagine a kid singing to it. The cold splash of reality is jarring.

Oh to have video--
When I was in high school (mid to late eighties) some genius on the faculty decided one year that it would be fun to do a 'talent show' like those lip sync programs on TV. I'm guessing somebody here remembers those?
A full hour of kids dancing and 'singing' to the hits of the day in costume and on stage in front of beaming parents. Looking back I thank god I was too shy for that one!!

I still think our music was better than what they have now but I guess we all get to think that don't we? It was certainly easier to sort into genres. I did go listen to Blurred Lines and came away wondering WTF it is. Where does that fit? They've gone for a little of everything and it sounds like a whole lot of nothing to me. But that's me and that's why music is great--we all get to pick the stuff we like.

*wanders off humming Shock the Monkey*

 

[NotHisLady]

Pmann. You were not at an Ed Sheersn concert, you were at a TAYLOR SWIFT concert.

'scuse me, don't mean to interupt but

dude, OUCH!!
You need a band aid??

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[Lord Pmann]

Well fuck all y'all!!!

Tay Tay for life!!!!

 

[Aquagal]

The best/most absurd part about Smell Yo Dick? The girl singing is 17 years old.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=lgWgEoaAYDY

Here she is on Tosh.0. This is awesome, especially with the kids singing. Go parents.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=cE5YOVCahcQ

This is worth a watch. And parents, sit down with your daughters and explain why you may need to smell the dick of your boyfriend. Otherwise, they'll be out there smelling the dicks of every random guy they know and they will not know how to practice safe sniffing.

You do realize why she wanted to smell his dick, right? To see if it smelled like pussy. Random dick smelling just isn't the same, they could smell like all kinds of strange snatch.

 

[Aquagal]

Excuse the subtitles

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[NippleMuncher]

Def Lepard was always a favorite. One summer's evening I was driving home from work, windows down, and Women blasting on the stereo. A couple of young lovelies in a convertible pulled up next to me with big smiles on their faces, singing along in approval.

 

[Lord Pmann]

He even had a picture of Tay Tay as his Facebook cover photo, for a good month or so.

Because some dickhead Aussie put it there to make me look like a pedo. *squints at you*

 

[_Anonymous_]

I'm not someone who places stock in music and films and video games affecting outcomes in the lives of our children.

This 100%

With solid parenting and honest-to-goodness pure luck, your child will grow up fine even if exposed to today's music, movies, and video games.... Oh and books, too. *cough* Playboy *cough* jk

Now, I'm not advocating parents to introduce their children to inappropriate content but you have to be a bit flexible and not overreact when you find out that your teen daughter is jamming out to Back Dat Azz Up.... Well maybe that's a bad example because if I ever caught my daughter doing any kind of inappropriate dance moves to that song, I'd kill her.

I think the internet is where a parent should be worried. You have pervs who talk to girls on these trending webcam sites like Omegle and Chat Roullette. Also, naive girls take pictures of themselved and then it's out there potentially for the whole world to view.

So the lesson, don't worry about the media content she is exposed to but rather, what she exposes to the internet.

 

[Hypoxia]

So the lesson, don't worry about the media content she is exposed to but rather, what she exposes to the internet.

Well said. I shall admit to being exposed to corrupting media as a youth. (Don't ask me when.) And it DID ruin my life, for many years, although I'm doing much better now, thank you very much.

What ruined me? Beatnik poetry.

 

[_Anonymous_]

Well said. I shall admit to being exposed to corrupting media as a youth. (Don't ask me when.) And it DID ruin my life, for many years, although I'm doing much better now, thank you very much.

What ruined me? Beatnik poetry.

Good that you bounced back.

 

[NotHisLady]

Def Lepard was always a favorite. One summer's evening I was driving home from work, windows down, and Women blasting on the stereo. A couple of young lovelies in a convertible pulled up next to me with big smiles on their faces, singing along in approval.

Oh I love that song!!
Those guys are way hotter now than they were when I was singing along to that song in the 80's too btw. (Caught them in concert a few years ago, wanted to see them again this year but they're touring with KISS and the tickets are too expensive)
I was one of those girls singing along with "Pour Some Sugar on Me" too
"...I'm hot, sticky sweet, from my head to my feet..."
Don't you just know my parents were proud?

Anyway, the point is that none of that messed ME up. Did it?

I agree with this--

With solid parenting and honest-to-goodness pure luck, your child will grow up fine even if exposed to today's music, movies, and video games.... Oh and books, too. *cough* Playboy *cough* jk
...snip...
I think the internet is where a parent should be worried. You have pervs who talk to girls on these trending webcam sites like Omegle and Chat Roullette. Also, naive girls take pictures of themselved and then it's out there potentially for the whole world to view.

What messes a kid up isn't the stuff they watch or read or hear, it isn't the games they play. There are really two things that mess a kid up--attention and no attention.
They need the right kind of attention. They need someone around teaching them right from wrong, making sure they learn to respect themselves and others. I honestly think learning a healthy dose of shame is a good thing, there are some things you really should be ashamed of.

They need to NOT have the wrong kind of attention. Those folks messing with kids online or the sites that encourage putting up pictures amounts to the wrong sort of attention. Even too much time on their own among each other is the wrong kind of attention because you can't expect them to teach each other stuff none of them know. That's where parents have to be gatekeepers but technology has made that so much harder (and from what small experience I have people have gotten lazier.)

My generation may be one of the last ones lucky enough to have been able to screw up royally and not have it wind up going viral so the world really is different.
I'm just glad I don't have kids.

 

[_Anonymous_]

Oh I love that song!!
Those guys are way hotter now than they were when I was singing along to that song in the 80's too btw. (Caught them in concert a few years ago, wanted to see them again this year but they're touring with KISS and the tickets are too expensive)
I was one of those girls singing along with "Pour Some Sugar on Me" too
"...I'm hot, sticky sweet, from my head to my feet..."
Don't you just know my parents were proud?

Anyway, the point is that none of that messed ME up. Did it?

I agree with this--



What messes a kid up isn't the stuff they watch or read or hear, it isn't the games they play. There are really two things that mess a kid up--attention and no attention.
They need the right kind of attention. They need someone around teaching them right from wrong, making sure they learn to respect themselves and others. I honestly think learning a healthy dose of shame is a good thing, there are some things you really should be ashamed of.

They need to NOT have the wrong kind of attention. Those folks messing with kids online or the sites that encourage putting up pictures amounts to the wrong sort of attention. Even too much time on their own among each other is the wrong kind of attention because you can't expect them to teach each other stuff none of them know. That's where parents have to be gatekeepers but technology has made that so much harder (and from what small experience I have people have gotten lazier.)

My generation may be one of the last ones lucky enough to have been able to screw up royally and not have it wind up going viral so the world really is different.
I'm just glad I don't have kids.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you just said. I don't have anything to add nor question.

 

[NotHisLady]

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you just said. I don't have anything to add nor question.

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[Que]

My oldest daughters used to have the youngest singing "Poker Face" at 3 or 4. SMH.

 

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[NotHisLady]

This is a major issue, as is getting them to understand it. Not only do I parent a teen and a preteen, I teach 13-14 year olds. They need major guidance with what should and should not be shared via FB and Instagram, et al.

Someone I went to school with and see now and then has kids now. She told me that she told her kids this. They can post whatever they like so long as they are willing to first print it out, take it to Walmart, and have it taped to the wall in both bathrooms.
(You'd have to know her, she probably meant it literally.)
In any case, after that she says they pretty much stuck to things that really were ok to post. That got it through to them that people they didn't really want to have seeing stuff would be looking whether they liked it or not.