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Plus they can act doubly as a kinky element during sex, or when I take powers from a super villainess whose trying to kill me or seduce me.
 
I think the concept works better if he's Pre-Cap because he was really the guinea pig so to speak. They weren't sure that this crazy bullshit would work. Like the Tuskegee Experiments. . .just AWESOME. So it must have worked well enough that they went ahead with Rodgers who wasn't really an experiment so much as a proof of concept.

Personally I've always found it silly that the formula was as lost as it was. That said I don't mind the idea that they've been hunting him on and off for years. That just opens the doors for him to be a bit of an anti-hero. Something like Riddick. Near impossible to track down (despite the movies making it seem like everybody knows where he is when it's important) and on the off chance that you do you find him you don't go back because he will end you.

I doubt anybody who doesn't want to be found in Wakanda and the surrounding jungles is ever found. I'm liking this more the more I think about it. I'm just trying to figure out how to tweak him a bit from Cap powers wise. If there is anything we've learned from Marvel it's that nearly identical circumstances rarely produce nearly identical results. Sometimes they can be as dissimilar as the Fantastic Four all being the result of one experiment. I'm not thinking anything that radical.
 
Hmmmm.... Maybe they tried it out on him first, they meant to dispose of him, but he escaped, they hunted him down, and maybe he either got plastic surgery or somehow his powers helped him stay out of their grasp. Though, to be honest, they probably would have tested it out on an animal before a human at all. Maybe your character is a wolf or an ape or something else that was given the serum and then escaped. Maybe you started out as a chimp, then became more human like from the serum, like Caesar in Planet of the Apes. You escaped, and while on the run, your kept mutating and evolving until you became completely human in appearance. The agents lost the trail because they thought they were still looking for a monkey, and had no idea he had become a man.

That is just an idea though, hehe.
 
It also depends on what manner serum you were injected with, if it contained animal dna or something else that could be considered non-regular, you could give him a slight edge over the ordinary Captain America's super human abilities, but at a drawback like it shows on him.

Super hard skin, but it could be that his skin is thus super pale, almost like bones or in an odd colour, or has insect exoskeleton parts on parts of his body.

Telekinesis/Telepathy/elemental control: Large head, glowing eyes, etc.

Super hearing/sonar/extrasensory: excellent thing to have, but he could have huge ears, or elf ears, possibly even animal ears of some kind.

Just examples.
 
Oooh... Idea... Maybe your pre-Cap guy was there when the post-Cap soldiers were being trained, and he discovered HYDRA had infiltrated the lab and was planning to use the super soldiers as sleeper agents to help Nazi Germany win the war, so he is the one who blew up the lab and has been secretly fighting HYDRA all these years. Then we could even have HYDRA partially responsible for the mutant outbreak :).
 
If you are playing a black guy, you could also give him a winged jetpack and call him Falcon, lol.
 
My thoughts on the serum is they probably tested it on animals first, then chimps, then minorities and/or prisoners (in this case minorities but that's not to say there aren't some prisoners who got tested on) AND THEN Captain America. As we're learning from SHIELD (who according to their cannon formed shortly after WW2 but clearly a lot of the pieces were in place, has multiple levels of secret clearance. So only a few people were really aware of the intermediate steps on minorities/prisoners because that's an ugly idea and you'd want to keep that way from even the general military. Even if it works roughly 1 in 10 shots it still detracts from a bit of the awe of Cap if you find out they had a decent reason to think it works. So on and so forth.

The Jeffinator said:
Oooh... Idea... Maybe your pre-Cap guy was there when the post-Cap soldiers were being trained, and he discovered HYDRA had infiltrated the lab and was planning to use the super soldiers as sleeper agents to help Nazi Germany win the war, so he is the one who blew up the lab and has been secretly fighting HYDRA all these years. Then we could even have HYDRA partially responsible for the mutant outbreak :).
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I like that idea actually. It also gives an excuse for why he's been occasionally on the wrong side of Shield as well. He can't come into explain himself because even though he's "dead" (faked at some point, possibly multiple points) they probably still have his picture on file, he did blow up the lab and if we're using the current MCU as an example there were a lot of important people there when he did it.
 
Yeah, I just saw Winter Soldier the other day and am up to date on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., and I love where they are going with HYDRA/S.H.I.E.L.D., hehe.
 
Hmmmm.... We could say that after your guy and Rogers, they also made Bucky Barnes a super soldier. Then, after many missions together between 1942 and 1944, Rogers and Barnes parted ways: Rogers continued his fight against HYDRA and Nazi Germany, while Barnes came back to help oversee the training of new super soldiers along with your guy. Due to racism, maybe your guy was just a glorified janitor/maintenance man at first, but after proving himself, they allowed him to help train the new guys or something.

Anyway, your guy and Barnes are working with the new recruits, when you discover HYDRA is brainwashing them. They have not been doing to same thing to you, though, because they plan to kill you once you're done training the new guys -- they want all white super soldiers. You try to talk sense into Barnes, but he is already well on his way to becoming the Winter Soldier and is beyond reason due to mental reprogramming. You try to get a message out, but it is intercepted by a high-ranking military officer. Unsure how deep the corruption goes, you feel forced to act on your own, destroy the lab, kill all the super soldiers and scientists, and flee into the woods.

Of course, a few HYDRA loyalists survive and through the US Government brand you a fugitive. Barnes also survives and he spends years trying to hunt you down, and you two clash over and over again. Maybe more recently, you thought you finally killed him in a plane crash in the jungles of Brazil, and while he was badly injured, he was repaired with some cybernetic enhancements, including a new robot arm.

If we roll with this, we would have to do it a little different than the MCU since S.H.I.E.L.D. isn't formed just yet. Maybe HYDRA has infiltrated the US Congress, the Department of Defense, and the Department of Homeland Security, but Nick Fury discovers the HYDRA threat and formed S.H.I.E.L.D. to fight it and the new mutants or something.

What do you think? We could also say that your guy comes to New York after forming a secret partnership with Nick Fury and Tony Stark to investigate the source of the mutant outbreak -- NYC is Ground Zero. This could explain why there is so much activity centered around the city. At first, we can say that the outbreak has effected more people within a hundred miles of Manhattan than anywhere else.
 
I haven't seen either of the Captain America movies yet, but this much I know. For him to keep himself out of sight from both Shield and Hydra, not ot mention the personal eye of Nick Fury, he needs to be able to not look the same or at least have extreme survival skills, like living in the jungle for fifty years. But I think he's mor e f a Chameleon type of captain America, a possible Agent America who is a bit like the old action TV series called Chameleon were a genius rated man could assume any identity he wanted through hacking and intelligence.

Not all guns and glory but intelligence and acting skills to cover up his newly made identity, the only problem would be his appearance, which I might add could possibly be altered through a side effect from the serum, sort of like making him able to shift the structures of his bones and muscles, thus changing almost every feature in him, even his DNA could be changed if he could make slight changes down to the genetic structure, not so that he could assume a different gender, another colour of skin but able to shift his appearance just slightly enough to not appear the same and not have the same DNA or finger prints, he'd be the perfect spy if he could just hack computers and make up identities.
 
And another thing, for my character, could it be possible for him to have a bit of personal crisis when his symbiote spawns for the first time? Like the heightened adrenaline surges and sensations from the suit affecting him like a pregnant woman's rapidly shifting emotions and temper, thus making him a bit unstable so he tries to close off others for their own good. And then his symbiote gives its first spawn and from there it could go either Winter Soldier, Spiderman, Deadpool or Captain Jack Sparrow on the world. Hehe would be amusing if I accidentally made a new Deadpool whose origin is as a symbiote, or got the real version of Deadpool attached to a symbiote, man that would be chaos.
 
The problem is that in the 1940s, he'd be very limited on what technology is available. After he first blows up the lab and flees, he could spent several years perfecting his fighting skills in Wakanda, as he mentioned earlier. He could wear face paint and blend in as one of the original Black Panther's tribal warriors or something. Maybe his plan was to stay here for the foreseeable future, but then he gets word that the Winter Soldier is attacking random villages looking for him, knowing he is somewhere near Wakanda. So he goes out to face Barnes and thus started a 50+ year struggle.

Since Nick Fury isn't on the scene yet at this point, he would not know who the pre-cap guy even is until much later. If we go with the prolonged youth idea for Fury -- maybe he was a pre-cap super soldier too -- he could be on Sean's side or something. If we go with the pre-cap Fury, maybe he and Sean's character were part of a group of seven black recruits that were tested on, and Sean and Fury were the only two to survive. If that is the case, his original name was not Nick Fury -- we could say he was a black soldier named Sam Jackson, and after he and Sean's guy bombed the lab, Jackson went into hiding, either used his power or had a new untested form of surgery to become a white guy, used secret resources to gain a new identity, and rejoined the army as a young white man from California named Nicholas Fury.

Using make up or some other means, he made himself to appear as if he was aging over the years, and eventually made up a lie about a black girl in New Orleans that he had banged once. She showed up claiming to be pregnant with his child, who was also born black. He was given the name Nick Fury Junior, and a network of false leads were set up to establish the legal identity of the boy.

Eventually, the white Nick Fury retired and then faked his death. He changed his appearance back to black and enlisted as Nick Fury Junior. He made up the false persona of his black son so that he could "die" and "return" as his old self, or something like that, haha. Maybe I'm putting too much thought into it.
 
Drakkwall said:
And another thing, for my character, could it be possible for him to have a bit of personal crisis when his symbiote spawns for the first time? Like the heightened adrenaline surges and sensations from the suit affecting him like a pregnant woman's rapidly shifting emotions and temper, thus making him a bit unstable so he tries to close off others for their own good. And then his symbiote gives its first spawn and from there it could go either Winter Soldier, Spiderman, Deadpool or Captain Jack Sparrow on the world. Hehe would be amusing if I accidentally made a new Deadpool whose origin is as a symbiote, or got the real version of Deadpool attached to a symbiote, man that would be chaos.
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Hmmm... You could say that your spawn attaches to Eddie Brock and he becomes Anti-Venom or Carnage and he could become your character's arch-nemesis or something.
 
Hehehe and I can keep calling him Anti-Dick or Cornage as an insult, I love it. Though I still think Venom is the best Symbiote in all of Marvel, mostly because I think it would have made Spiderman Overpowered, and I love Overpowered Spiderman, seriously he gets all the bullshit most of the times.

I like the way you think about the Alternative Captain America, hehehehe it would be a totally Marvel thing to do to reveal Nick Fury as one of the failed genetic soldiers who survived through deceiving the world. But I still like the idea of him able to preform minor body shifting in muscle, skin and bone tones, thus allowing him to change body structure, fingerprints and DNA, making him appear different each time, though I think it would be difficult to assume the same genetic form from an earlier stage so I guess his natural form would be the one he had before the serum was injected in him. So in short, he can change into one time use unique shapes of different DNa, nobody structure and fingerprints, but cannot copy the same DNa string. Hehehe man that is sooo much a super spy right there, Nick Fury would kill to have him on his side.

Say about the Youth Fury thing... this guy could be related to Nick, possibly a cousin, brother, nephew, uncle or whatever, thus he protects him, or he could even be Fury's grandfather, it would make for an awkward storyline on the Helicarrier hehehehe.
 
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DNA tests are pretty new in the grand scheme of things. If he had the ability just to adjust his muscular, skeletal and skin tone by relatively small bits he'd be able to fool people almost indefinitely. Honestly if he could go just from say Will Smith at the "smallest" and The Rock at "The Biggest" and shift skin tone between again Will Smith and say Samuel Jackson at the dark end of things he'd be invisible. It wouldn't be like Mystique getting him into places he shouldn't by perfectly impersonating others but it would make him incredibly hard to pin down.

Burn off the finger prints one way or another.
 
You could have him injured in the lab explosion and horribly disfigured. Maybe he fully heals, but doesn't look quite the same. Or maybe he is on the verge of dying, takes a second serum as he escapes the burning lab, and that makes him taller and more muscular than he was before and maybe alters his skin tone a bit. Just an idea :).

If you make muscle and skeleton changes part of his power, you could in a way have him connected to Henry Pym or something. Maybe your guy can go from Will Smith to a pale Hulk form and anywhere in between.
 
Nah, if I wanted Spawn I'd play Spawn. . . I find the low tier shape shifting to be an interesting power though. It's weak enough not to be bullshit. I love Mystique but she's utter bullshit and given that she doesn't seem to have a lot in the way of size limitations and given some of the fights she's gotten in it seems like she gets most of the appropriate strength as well. She once fucked up Wolverine by turning into a Rhino! This would really only be good for evasion. So I don't want it to be functional, at least not as a combat power. I like having a narrower list, mostly cus I want it to be similar to Cap, high strength, high dex, perhaps not as highly trained however. If we go with the Wakanda story perhaps he's very comfortable in Jungle but not quite as good as many other heroes in an urban setting.
 
Yeah Mystique's shapeshifting is just weird. I like the minor shapeshifting powers as well, sure I am not against extreme shape shifting powers as well but I think either supernatural or non-human origin is the best explanation for that and Mystique's powers are just a load of crap compared to most shapeshifters.
 
One option you could say is that he has completely control over his skin cells, and thus can change its color and the shape of his face. Maybe his healing factor was not automatic, and he had to learn to will his skin cells to repair torn flesh faster than normal. In doing that, he discovered how to will his skin to do much more, including altering appearance. But maybe moving his cells at higher than average rate boosts his metabolism, and he has to consume more food to maintain his energy or something. Just an idea :).
 
If you did that, you could also have a "flesh shield" type ability where you pull in your cells tighter in one area to make the flesh almost impossible to pierce and tough as steel. Like if you are saving a girl from gunfire, you lean over her and make your back a flesh shield to deflect the bullets.
 
And you will never have to worry about needing viagra or cutting yourself while shaving.
 
The Jeffinator said:
One option you could say is that he has completely control over his skin cells, and thus can change its color and the shape of his face. Maybe his healing factor was not automatic, and he had to learn to will his skin cells to repair torn flesh faster than normal. In doing that, he discovered how to will his skin to do much more, including altering appearance. But maybe moving his cells at higher than average rate boosts his metabolism, and he has to consume more food to maintain his energy or something. Just an idea :).
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I'm not a big fan of flesh shield but I like this idea. It's sort of like those cuttlefish you see on Discovery. He can change his skin and musculature within fairly limited uses (and anybody who's watched actors can tell you what a difference standing up straight and a few wrinkles and some skin tone can make.) And the fact that he has to do it on purpose makes it nice since it takes away much of what makes Wolverine bullshit in my mind. Basically again it's not a combat ability it's a utility skill.

I still need a weapon. Now I'm torn between an urban route and wanting just a chain and trying to look up something all tribal.
 
Could have a long chain wrapped around each wrist that you use kind of like Kratos' blades, or he could use a long staff that can break into two smaller staves or even a stark tech pulsar hand blaster or something, lol.
 
He could even use more then one weapon, a possible combination of 2 knives, hand weapons and shield, a kama with chain, two swords, a two handed weapon like a greatsword, or a pole arm maybe even a double ended weapon like a Double Bladed Sword, in short a handle with two blades on both ends. It tould also just be a pistol and knife or possibly a more complex motion of a combination of melee weapon and ranged weapon, like the Gunblade from Final Fantasy 8.
 
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