Melissa Baby, can’t we all just be friends?

[TheRedChamber]

I wonder if invading China was a mistake, like the German invasion of the Soviet Union. The sheer size of the place is daunting.

Being reductionist, they lost ergo it clearly was a mistake.

However, over history, China has been conquered by other 'outsiders' who have held it for multiple centuries - the Mongels and the Manchu, and, on paper, you might think that Japan taking over China was more likely than Britain taking over India. (To give a not quite Apples to Apples, but not quite Apples to Oranges comparison)

 

[Statius]

@Statius,
My dear colleague, darned good pick... saw Billy live a couple of times. Here's one of the most moving I ever heard...
Redgum - I was only 19
Deepest respects, always, lest we forget!
D.

Jealous. Never got to see him live. Grew up listening to his music. One of my favorites.

 

[UsuallyPresent]

I wonder if invading China was a mistake, like the German invasion of the Soviet Union. The sheer size of the place is daunting.

I've never heard that song before; I doubt most Americans have. I'll have to think of an American band with a song specifically about Vietnam rarely than merely associated with it.

Lots of 'em out there... for instance, Saul Broudy

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

SUMMARY OF 1200 PM EDT...1600 UTC...INFORMATION

THIS IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND LIFE-THREATENING SITUATION! Do
not leave your shelter as the eye passes over, as winds will
quickly, and rapidly increase on the other side of the eye.
Residents should remain in place through the passage of these
life-threatening conditions. To protect yourself from wind, the
best thing you can do is put as many walls as possible between you
and the outside. An interior room without windows, ideally one where
you can also avoid falling trees, is the safest place you can be in
a building. You can cover yourself with a mattress and wear a
helmet for added protection.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...185 MPH...295 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 25 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H


Are they serious?


Sustained winds of 185 MPH moving at 9 MPH ... there won't be any walls, mattresses or helmets left.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Stronger than Rita and Camille, tied with 'Labor Day 1935'

 

[Actingup]

Are they serious?
Sustained winds of 185 MPH moving at 9 MPH ... there won't be any walls, mattresses or helmets left.

There are always options - just less and less good options. The key messages products are useful for balancing risks, as it’s not just about wind - you can be sheltering in place but then hit by a landslide or flash flood. Or storm surge, which is when you get some of the highest casualty rates.

What I always hate about these events is that there’s a universal rule:
The poor and vulnerable always get it in the neck.
The intelligence from early warnings saves a lot of lives, but if the housing quality or infrastructure isn’t there, it’s much more difficult. Thinking of Haiti in particular.

 

[Actingup]

And here’s the human factor at play:

 

[gunhilltrain]

C

Country Joe and the Fish is the first one to come to mind. There were several others about getting drafted. That was such a big part of the psyche of the late 60's early 70's for every male of age. College was an easy deferment, And if your Daddy was connected, you got into the National Guard, which unlike now, was not deployed over seas.

There was Arlo Guthrie's Alice's Restaurant, which does get to the draft eventually. I think it's mostly autobiographical. The National Guard was deployed in places like Newark, which was relatively easy duty against American civilians as compared to the Viet Cong.

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I'm not sure how this thread got here from a hurricane. Post #7?