Myth or Fact

[testosterone1]

This is quite amazing.While it is recorded that there is a small percentage of women that feel size matters,I can't believe what I am seeing here.

I saw this one video where a dude was going around a college campus asking women if size matters.One answer was "Shit yeah" and that is what was expressed by the other college students.I've seen questions on Yahoo.com that have to do with size.One of the questions was posted by a girl
who "Loved" her boyfriend for over a year but she faults her poor sex life on his boyfriends penis being so small that she couldn't feel it.I think it was 4".So there are women out there like this. I was just trying to find out from replies here just how many there were just here in this forum.Another group of people that disagree that size doesn't matter are sexologists.They place that size matters and interferes with intercourse.As far as small penises are concerned, women unintentionally infer that size does matter when they say that size doesn't matter and end up telling the guys use their tongues, hands and what not to please their lovers and tell them to go out an buy toys to compensate if the penis isn't big enough to please the women. So this becomes a mixed message I have also had read that women enjoy more girth than length. Doesn't this imply that women in general enjoy a thick penis to a thin one.
There are studies that were given to women that they were anonymously given questions about sensitive things.50% of them suggested that size did matter. There are comments made that in front of peers women would answer
by being "politically correct" by saying that size doesn't matter.
But here I found that the women here feel that size is such a non issue that
they answer the questions with almost frustratration, probably brought on by myself that penis size is so irrelevant that it is ridiculousness to bring up.
I never saw the question answered so passionately as here on this forum.
So now I can go back to my friends and say that several women on a sex forum are passionately objected to even bring up that size may matter.They feel it is a ridiculous question.
I was not looking out for my own penis for this thread.It was an independent
question meant to be answered for the many men at Thundersplace.com who
dedicate hours and years and hundreds of dollars to get more size.
I suppose I should stop here before the rocks start hitting and cracking the inside of my computer screen.
I now observed the answers,what little I got and have to label the results heavily to Myth.
Thank you ladies for your time and I apologize if I upset you.Sometimes I risk my life with these kinds of questions.

 

[Eilan]

I'm not sorry for my previous comment. My only regret is that I didn't eliminate the source of the frustration sooner. Maybe if I stuck to Playground threads and AmPic drivelfluff my Lit experience would be a happier one. w00t!

 

[testosterone1]

But there is one fact that the women have to take into consideration here.When a guy at Thundersplace forum says that he is small, he means it.I really don't believe that the vast majority of women ever went out with a truly
small guy.According the penis studies,the chances of a woman truly going out with a small guy are slim.If you take 100 men only 3 of them would be 4" or less.So women who say that size doesn't matter may have dated men that are smaller than average but in fact average. Guys that are 4" or smaller resemble pre-puberty boys but with hair. Are you sure that you would be able to live with that? Would you be satisfied with a penis that is the same size as an 11 year old boy that has hair on it as your sex partner for life? This is not really part of the size survey I just had but I thought that you would be interested in what a small penis was really like.

 

[bobinks2]

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There are very, very, very few women who would leave a guy for the size of his cock.

I actually have a true story about a girl who left a guy for the size of his cock. FWIW, I'll tell the story here.

When I was in college, I dated a girl. She had a twin sister. They lived together. (Since this is Lit, I feel the need to regrettfully inform you that I was not able to live out my kinky, twin fantisies with them. Back to the story now.)

My GFs twin sister developed a bunch of female type problems over a period of about three weeks. She had horrible cramping, horrible abdominal pain. She couldn't sleep through the night most nights due to the pain. She went to the Dr. more than once. The Dr.s couldn't find anything wrong. After about three weeks of the pain getting worse, and worse, she went to pee in the middle of the night and had blood in her urine. She rushed to the E.R. in the middle of the night to have this looked at.

She was about 20 yrs old and gorgeous. (If you're tying to get a visual, picture a young Natalie Wood in Westside Story.) She told me the story of how they went to the E.R. at O' dark thitry. The resident/intern/med student that was working the graveyard shift was just beside himself trying to maintian some professionalism while examing this hot, young girl's privates. She was in horrible pain. The guy tried to take her medical history, examined her, couldn't really find what the cause of the problem was. While fishing for info, he asked her if she could think of anything else that may be the cause of the problems. She said, "Well, my boyfriend has a large penis." This poor young med guy was gulping trying to maintain some professionalism. He managed to ask, "Uhh, large is kind of a relative term, can you be more specific?" She was in a lot of pain. In a low gutteral tone, she looked him in the eye and growled, "LARGE!!!!!".

They decided that the problem was that her boyfriend's penis was too large. It was bottoming out. He was hitting the back wall. By doing that, he bruised her bladder and that was what was causing all of her problems.

She broke up with him because he had a large penis.

I was elated when the told me that story. Up till that time, I bought into the male myth that ALL women prefer a guy with a huge penis. They both had a lot of sexual experience. They couldn't understand why a guy would think that women would prefer a man with a large penis. That had never occured to them.

So I guess the point is that in my experience, yes, some women do leave a guy for the size of his cock.

 

[breezyblue]

I think this topic is a good place for the saying "walk the middle path" - not to small and not to large either. Everyone is different and all women have different preferences when it comes to their lover's endowment but I would guess that the average is right smack dab in the middle of the range.

 

[Reba67]

Yet again, you've posted a response of "I just don't believe that you all think this" and "when you say size doesn't matter, but that means it really does".

Seriously.

You need to give it up.

Once again I will say that SIZE DOESN'T MATTER! Why doesn't it matter? BECAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF US WOMEN DON'T GET OFF ON YOUR COCK. We need your fingers, your tongue, the right mood, usually a slow build up (sometimes not). The fact of the matter is that a cock just doesn't "hit all the right places" when you're pounding into us. I don't care if you're 4" or 8".....you're just not gonna do it for the vast majority of women.

Sure, some women leave a guy because he has a rinky-dink dick. Most of us don't though. Most of us have other reasons to leave a guy.

 

[testosterone1]

I believe you.I also want to hear other womans opinions.Go to the beginning of
this thread.Every woman is different.I understand and believe you that to you, size doesn't matter.So that is one vote for size doesn't matter. Now I want opinions from other woman. So you see what I mean now..Go back and read my first post in this thread and you will see that this is a survey and it doesn't have to do with my penis alone.Nevertheless, I am being bashed because the ladies believe that this is about only me.No!!!!!!!!! I need everyones separate opinion on all penis size.Not just mine.

 

[SweetErika]

To add to this; how do these men know, for sure, that the woman has left them for a guy with a bigger cock other than what she has said.

I wondered that, too.

I'm guessing they're projecting their own thoughts on their size onto everyone else and assuming cock size (function, etc.) is THE reason their partner would leave them for someone else.

As you can tell I'm all for telling people what I really think, that's not what bothers me. What bothers me is people feel the need to pound the nail further into the hole than they already have. Making the point over and over as if someone is a child and doesn't understand. I've seen that more than once here on these boards. If you can't get through to the person you stop trying.

In my experience, once my patience is finished with someone, I am done with them. Why even continue to respond to the guy? What do some of you get from that because certainly you're not doing him any good.

With all due respect, you've done the same thing you're complaining about since your second post here in How To.

Instead of trying to control or allow yourself to be bothered by what others post, perhaps your best bet is to put those members you find irritating/offensive on ignore (physically or mentally) and/or avoid the forums you find problematic and/or figure out how to distance yourself. Take your own advice by not engaging with people whose posts upset you and trying to make your 'you need to STFU' point over and over.

Maybe, just maybe, you find pounding points home and condescension so annoying because those are behaviors you recognize, engage, and don't care for in yourself?

As for not being familiar with members' histories, well, you can click on the 'Show all posts by...' link in profiles and take a look at said histories, just as anyone else can. I've found this to be a very valuable tool because it can quickly give me an idea of where someone might be coming from and shape how I respond to their posts/threads/PMs. Or, once in a while a person's history will give me a clue that I don't want have anything to do with them - I can avoid wasting my time and energy interacting with them. Perhaps this will be a valuable tool for you, too.

 

[sweet_escape]

If a woman tells a man she's leaving him because his penis isn't big enough, she's going for maximum impact.

And why would a woman discuss the size of her past lovers with her current one? How does that kind of conversation even begin?

I'm not too bothered about size. I'm more interested in the man it's attached to.

 

[bailadora]

I also want to hear other womans opinions. <snip>
Nevertheless, I am being bashed because the ladies believe that this is about only me.No!!!!!!!!! I need everyones separate opinion on all penis size.Not just mine.

You've been given many, many opinions to the effect that a large penis is not the be all, end all when it comes to a woman's sexual satisfaction. Bottom line - you choose not to believe it no matter what the ladies of Lit have to say, so I fail to understand why you keep pursing this line of questioning. Honest question for you, Test - if your wife is happy with you, then what the fuck does it matter? You've been asked this several times and I've yet to see you give a complete and logical answer to this. As for your brethren on the other forum you keep referring to: I honestly don't see how you are responsible for alleviating their insecurities. They're grown men for the love of God! They need to take responsibility for themselves and get help from credible therapists instead of random strangers on the net. I'm sure you'll not believe this either, but the reason you are being "bashed" is because you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with penis size. Please, for your own peace of mind - get therapy. And I say that with the greatest of sincerity and not an ounce of ill will towards you.

 

[SweetErika]

This is quite amazing.While it is recorded that there is a small percentage of women that feel size matters,I can't believe what I am seeing here.

It's actually "quite amazing" that--in spite of getting many detailed opinions in your threads--you still don't believe what people are telling you.

I saw this one video where a dude was going around a college campus asking women if size matters.One answer was "Shit yeah" and that is what was expressed by the other college students.I've seen questions on Yahoo.com that have to do with size.One of the questions was posted by a girl
who "Loved" her boyfriend for over a year but she faults her poor sex life on his boyfriends penis being so small that she couldn't feel it.I think it was 4".So there are women out there like this.

The idea that your "evidence" amounts to a video with responses from young women on one college campus (skewed, biased, may very well have been edited to support a 'size matters' theory) and responses to questions on Yahoo by god knows who is outrageous. Would you jump off a bridge because some college chicks and Yahoo users said it was a good idea?

I was just trying to find out from replies here just how many there were just here in this forum.

If that's true, click me. We've had a gazillion "Does size matter?" threads here in the past, so you'll get a good idea of what Lit members think by looking at them.

Another group of people that disagree that size doesn't matter are sexologists.They place that size matters and interferes with intercourse.

Show us real proof that sexologists, as a group, believe size matters. Otherwise, you're just making baseless generalizations.

I know I've already told you that size does matter some, as have others here. At either extreme of the size spectrum, there are going to be problems. Way too little, and sex is difficult. Way too big, and sex can be very painful and difficult. But most of us love our longterm partners enough to figure out how to work with (or around) what they've got, from tiny to huge.

As far as small penises are concerned, women unintentionally infer that size does matter when they say that size doesn't matter and end up telling the guys use their tongues, hands and what not to please.

Again, we've already covered this in the other thread(s). Go back and reread them if you didn't understand the first time or just need a refresher.

So women who say that size doesn't matter may have dated men that are smaller than average but in fact average. Guys that are 4" or smaller resemble pre-puberty boys but with hair. Are you sure that you would be able to live with that? Would you be satisfied with a penis that is the same size as an 11 year old boy that has hair on it as your sex partner for life? This is not really part of the size survey I just had but I thought that you would be interested in what a small penis was really like.

Most of the ladies of Lit understand what qualifies as small, medium and large because we've covered this subject ad nauseum and researched the statistics ourselves out of curiosity/a desire to learn/whatever.

Personally, I've had several partners with 4" or smaller cocks. One or two of them were amazing lovers, and I would have been perfectly happy to have sex with them forever. We didn't break up due to their size, we broke up due to other factors. I didn't leave them for a guy with a larger cock, I went on to marry a man I was truly compatible with who just happened to have an average-sized cock.

So I guess the point is that in my experience, yes, some women do leave a guy for the size of his cock.

Good for you?

If you'll notice, I did not use absolutes in the post you quoted, or any other post on this topic. I don't like overgeneralizations, so I take care to avoid making them.

Of course some people break up over cock size. Some do over hair color, breast size, fingernail length, etc., too. There are all sorts of people with all sorts of ideas out there. That doesn't mean the overwhelming majority of people don't break up over more substantial issues than, say, a 4" cock, though. Imposing the opinions or actions of a tiny minority on a large majority is silly.

I'm not sorry for my previous comment. My only regret is that I didn't eliminate the source of the frustration sooner. Maybe if I stuck to Playground threads and AmPic drivelfluff my Lit experience would be a happier one. w00t!

NOOOOOOOOO!!!

My Lit experience won't be a happier one if you stick to the drivelfluff.

You're an integral part of the Cock Size Thread Team, FFS!

 

[InertiaCreeps]

From one guy to another...Some girls care about penis size, some don't. I'm comfortable with being average in length, and I just ignore those "size queens". Different women prefer different lengths of penises, just as I'm sure different men prefer different types of breast sizes. Make the most of what you got, because I'm certain there's plenty of women who would be fine with what you're packing. As others have said, showing no confidence whatsoever is going to drive off women faster than penis size. Besides, if women judge a guy solely based on penis size, they're really not worth your time in your opinion. There's so much more to sex than just how big a dude's wang is. So...with that said, this subject is very much overdone. You really need to give it a rest, k? Show some confidence in what you've got, learn ways to enjoy sex that aren't just focused on penis in vagina or ass, and relax.

 

[shiny5437]

Dude, you put far too much effort into worrying about your penis.

Here is a fact: All the people you love will not be there forever. Of all the ways to lose people penis size simply does not figure. Cancer, brain haemorrhages, road traffic accidents, failed emotional connections, self-loathing, financial difficulties, unresolved anger are all ways people have their lives messed up. Penis size - not an issue.

Take all the energy and time that you spend worrying about your penis and invest it in improving the health and happiness of those around you and yourself.

I do sound impatient but you are simply wasting your life on this issue and being selfish to your wife.

End of.

 

[SallyIsHere]

Silly

I haven't even seen your penis and I am ready to leave you. It is not easy to have great sex with someone if 90% of the interaction is reassuring the guy that his penis is adequate. It is insulting to women to imply that such a complex interaction can be reduced to one variable, penis size. Same goes for breast size, butt size, shaved genitals, tattoos, piercings, etc.

Try a little maturity. It might get you further than you think.

Sally

 

[mark_j]

This has been said a gazzillion times but here goes.

You have what you have. There is nothing you can really do about it short of major surgery. Learn another skill to compliment or replace your perceived lack in penile size. As many of the women have told you here time and time again it isn't the only part of you that they are looking at/for. If you are a poor lover it doesn't matter if you have a small dick or a foot long sausage. You are still going to suck in bed.

That being said. If you are hearing about the idea that she left someone for a bigger cock (and I can be pretty sure that wasn't the reason) remember that this comment was used as an insult.

 

[testosterone1]

I just thought I would do a follow up on my situation.My foreplay is great but the intercourse was horribly lack luster.I ran into a girl that is really experience with sex.She gave me all kinds of things to do while doing intercourse.She said make circles, go in slow and as far as I could got.Then maybe go shallow and fast.She told me to do all kinds of variations of penetration
I finally got to use it on my wife.She had in the past just done the intercourse for my benefit because she wasn't really getting much out of it.So I tested the new stuff out such as making circles all the time and making all sorts of creative
moves ..even changing my angle of penetration. The next thing you know is, she grabbed her vibrator and it was like she was a new person.I am feeling a whole lot better than I was feeling because now I know that I can use my penis in a thrilling way.I was always confident approaching women who were strangers because I have a quick with and I have a lot of fun just flirting. But it looks like my confidence is going to be getting a lot stronger now that my penis knows what to do.You see. This thread did serve a purpose.I know that a guy that is insecure about his penis is a real turnoff and can get on peoples nerves.According to the results of the other night, things are looking up.
I can't help it. I just love women. I love to flirt with them. When one rings my alarm I talk a look and my high testosterone infections seem to take over and the next think you know... Well let's put it this way. I have never cheated on my wife.I had opportunities handed to me on a silver and I just said no thank you.Girls also seem to be impressed with intelligence.Not that I am some sort of scholar, but I am a Medical Technologist with 5 licenses in the pathology lab so sometimes they are attracted to that. All I know is that I have never had a problem getting a nice witty conversation going with a girl that I find attractive.and know I can do it even easier because I am learning to "use it."

 

[PoeticMusings53]

Time to fight this unique brand of trolling by utilizing the ignore list.

 

[SweetErika]

I just thought I would do a follow up on my situation.My foreplay is great but the intercourse was horribly lack luster.I ran into a girl that is really experience with sex.She gave me all kinds of things to do while doing intercourse.She said make circles, go in slow and as far as I could got.Then maybe go shallow and fast.She told me to do all kinds of variations of penetration
I finally got to use it on my wife.She had in the past just done the intercourse for my benefit because she wasn't really getting much out of it.So I tested the new stuff out such as making circles all the time and making all sorts of creative
moves ..even changing my angle of penetration. The next thing you know is, she grabbed her vibrator and it was like she was a new person.I am feeling a whole lot better than I was feeling because now I know that I can use my penis in a thrilling way.I was always confident approaching women who were strangers because I have a quick with and I have a lot of fun just flirting. But it looks like my confidence is going to be getting a lot stronger now that my penis knows what to do.You see. This thread did serve a purpose.I know that a guy that is insecure about his penis is a real turnoff and can get on peoples nerves.According to the results of the other night, things are looking up.
I can't help it. I just love women. I love to flirt with them. When one rings my alarm I talk a look and my high testosterone infections seem to take over and the next think you know... Well let's put it this way. I have never cheated on my wife.I had opportunities handed to me on a silver and I just said no thank you.Girls also seem to be impressed with intelligence.Not that I am some sort of scholar, but I am a Medical Technologist with 5 licenses in the pathology lab so sometimes they are attracted to that. All I know is that I have never had a problem getting a nice witty conversation going with a girl that I find attractive.and know I can do it even easier because I am learning to "use it."

Weird. I thought this thread was about your penis forum guys erroneously thinking their women due to their small cocks, not about your relationship or how many "girls" want to sleep with you.

I'm guessing you have so many discussions on the same topic going that you're forgetting what you've already posted multiple times and you're starting to post things in the wrong thread.

If that could be the case, I'd suggest jettisoning the cock talk and participating in discussions on completely new/different topics. Next time someone else here or on you penis forum brings up the small cock nonissue, you can tell them all about how you finally realized the errors of your ways and make an effort to convince them size is insignificant in comparison to personality, attitude and skills.

Otherwise, if you keep dwelling on the same issue, many more people may very well join Poetic in writing you off as a troll and/or ignoring you, which would make it extremely difficult to take advantage of all of the great things this community has to offer.

 

[InertiaCreeps]

I just thought I would do a follow up on my situation.My foreplay is great but the intercourse was horribly lack luster.I ran into a girl that is really experience with sex.She gave me all kinds of things to do while doing intercourse.She said make circles, go in slow and as far as I could got.Then maybe go shallow and fast.She told me to do all kinds of variations of penetration
I finally got to use it on my wife.She had in the past just done the intercourse for my benefit because she wasn't really getting much out of it.So I tested the new stuff out such as making circles all the time and making all sorts of creative
moves ..even changing my angle of penetration. The next thing you know is, she grabbed her vibrator and it was like she was a new person.I am feeling a whole lot better than I was feeling because now I know that I can use my penis in a thrilling way.I was always confident approaching women who were strangers because I have a quick with and I have a lot of fun just flirting. But it looks like my confidence is going to be getting a lot stronger now that my penis knows what to do.You see. This thread did serve a purpose.I know that a guy that is insecure about his penis is a real turnoff and can get on peoples nerves.According to the results of the other night, things are looking up.
I can't help it. I just love women. I love to flirt with them. When one rings my alarm I talk a look and my high testosterone infections seem to take over and the next think you know... Well let's put it this way. I have never cheated on my wife.I had opportunities handed to me on a silver and I just said no thank you.Girls also seem to be impressed with intelligence.Not that I am some sort of scholar, but I am a Medical Technologist with 5 licenses in the pathology lab so sometimes they are attracted to that. All I know is that I have never had a problem getting a nice witty conversation going with a girl that I find attractive.and know I can do it even easier because I am learning to "use it."

I have but one word to say to you. Paragraphs.

 

[fabricator]

Weird. I thought this thread was about your penis forum guys erroneously thinking their women due to their small cocks, not about your relationship or how many "girls" want to sleep with you.

I'm guessing you have so many discussions on the same topic going that you're forgetting what you've already posted multiple times and you're starting to post things in the wrong thread.

If that could be the case, I'd suggest jettisoning the cock talk and participating in discussions on completely new/different topics. Next time someone else here or on you penis forum brings up the small cock nonissue, you can tell them all about how you finally realized the errors of your ways and make an effort to convince them size is insignificant in comparison to personality, attitude and skills.

Otherwise, if you keep dwelling on the same issue, many more people may very well join Poetic in writing you off as a troll and/or ignoring you, which would make it extremely difficult to take advantage of all of the great things this community has to offer.

..... what she said.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

But there is one fact that the women have to take into consideration here.When a guy at Thundersplace forum says that he is small, he means it.I really don't believe that the vast majority of women ever went out with a truly
small guy.According the penis studies,the chances of a woman truly going out with a small guy are slim.If you take 100 men only 3 of them would be 4" or less.So women who say that size doesn't matter may have dated men that are smaller than average but in fact average. Guys that are 4" or smaller resemble pre-puberty boys but with hair. Are you sure that you would be able to live with that? Would you be satisfied with a penis that is the same size as an 11 year old boy that has hair on it as your sex partner for life? This is not really part of the size survey I just had but I thought that you would be interested in what a small penis was really like.

Thundersplace?

ROFLMAO

My opinion is that there's a cunt for every cock. Not every woman has a yawning black hole up her pussy. My guy is shorter than average but very thick. This is perfect for me as I have a pussy that is shallow enough that he penetrates me fully and the girth does amazing things to my G spot. I also know a woman who has real problems with sex because her pussy is unsusually tight and small. She would probably love to fuck a guy with a small penis but as her man has an average sized one, they mostly make do with oral.

Some men like big tits, others prefer small ones, some like bigger women, others prefer skinnier ones. Women have the same range of preference when it comes to cock.

 

[pinkflames]

Some men like big tits, others prefer small ones, some like bigger women, others prefer skinnier ones. Women have the same range of preference when it comes to cock.

I agree, but of course even a fan of big boobs will love the little ones on a woman who is perfect for him in every other way. The same goes for cock size. If we truly love a man, we'll love their cock regardless of it's dimensions.

 

[Big Ben IV]

myth most women dont like a "cervix bumper"... trust me

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I agree, but of course even a fan of big boobs will love the little ones on a woman who is perfect for him in every other way. The same goes for cock size. If we truly love a man, we'll love their cock regardless of it's dimensions.

Absolutely true. Now if someone would tattoo something to that effect onto the inside of testosterone1's eyelids, we might get somewhere.

 

[southernsky]

your penis is way too small. how do i know this? it is so small that it causes you to go around on message boards and make an asshole out of yourself. if i met you in real life, i would never see your penis, ever. your personality would cause a big enough problem all by itself without having to bring your obviously tiny and shameful ittle witty bitty penis into the mix.