Need clarification of orgasm

[tweakerboi]

ok im sorry but at first i thought when a females reaches orgasm it ment that she cummed or ejaculated. recently after a while my gf told me that she just had a orgasm but i didnt see no cum or anything so i asked her. she told me it was just a climax sensation. i tried looking all over the black manuel but i wasnt able to find much about either. so now i am really confused. would someone please help me please

thank you

 

[M's girl]

Uhm..... and who exactly told you that? I think you watched a bit too much porn of a certain genre. Also, you are very unique (I think) in your thinking this way about the female orgasm.

Yes, there are women who squirt and you will be able to find plenty if you search the Blank Manual again using this term. But they are more the exception than the rule.

How old are you?

 

[MR.GGG]

Uhm..... How old are you?

I am constantly amazed - stunned - at the level of some people's sexual ignorance. Don't they have sex ed in school anymore? What do the teachers teach? Birds and bugs stuff. Must be.

Maybe WHERE are you from might be relevant too.

I'm not pickin on ya tweak but holie kow ...

OK - GUYS ejaculate. Ya know that really good feeling and then there's a mess? That's YOUR orgasm.

Her orgasm is elusive and INTERNAL (inside her). There is no NEED for her to ejaculate anything. As sex, FUNCTIONALLY, is generally used for BREEDING she is accepting your sperm. You shoot inside her and the glop stays and pretty soon there's another kid in the trailer park. In FACT if he's is gonna ejaculate it is NOT a good thing for the breeding angle because this can flush your goop OUT.

Some women, when they orgasm, release some fluid. Most do NOT. WHERE did you get the idea they hose down the room. Most women can't even orgasm via straight sex. The buttons and pipes just aren't aligned right. She may get wet. She may even go DRY when she orgasms but the idea that you can tell if a woman cums by whether she ejaculates or not is WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!

 

[EJFan]

...As sex, FUNCTIONALLY, is generally used for BREEDING she is accepting your sperm. You shoot inside her and the glop stays and pretty soon there's another kid in the trailer park. ...

i'm sorry to get off track here but...

LMFAO!!!!

 

[Chicklet]

Hey, when I was younger, I didn't realize that a guy came at the *end* of his sexual activity. I thought it was a spontaneous action that happened throughout sex.

They teach sex ed, but they don't teach you about orgasms. Past perhaps telling you in a clinical manner that at some point, climax DOES happen.

Maybe flaming someone who just didn't know isn't very nice. I'm sorry to chastise, but really...

I used to pronounce "epitome" as "ep-it-ohm" - no one had ever said it out loud around me, so how was I supposed to know?

 

[MR.GGG]

NOT really meaning to *flame* him but definitely the system and a society where kids can grow up, finish school etc etc and still not have a clue about something so friggin basic. It really leaves me shaking my head.

On the other hand, thank heavens for sites like this where people like him and others can come and ask question. It's pretty obvious that the educational system has let them down and where else does one go in society to clear up a question like this? No wonder the incidents of unwanted pregnancy and the transmission of STDs are so rampant today when there can be such a stunning lapse in information for our youth.

 

[ickle_stace]

NOT really meaning to *flame* him but definitely the system and a society where kids can grow up, finish school etc etc and still not have a clue about something so friggin basic. It really leaves me shaking my head.

On the other hand, thank heavens for sites like this where people like him and others can come and ask question. It's pretty obvious that the educational system has let them down and where else does one go in society to clear up a question like this? No wonder the incidents of unwanted pregnancy and the transmission of STDs are so rampant today when there can be such a stunning lapse in information for our youth.

my Sex ed consisted of male and female have sex, man ejaculates inside her, she can get pregnant, and you can do this and this and this to protect yourself but you should protect yourself from STDs too, and this was taught from being 10 years old.

If these kids can sleep together before they're legal, without protection, and get STDs or fall pregnant as a result, IMO telling the girls that they have orgasms and it feels amazing might drive more of them into having sex underage thus increasing the STDs and teenage pregnancies. A female doesn't need to orgasm to get pregnant, so does it really need teaching? It's just something you learn as you get older. If you start telling kids how great sex is, then more are probably going to start having sex sooner

 

[M's girl]

... A female doesn't need to orgasm to get pregnant, so does it really need teaching? It's just something you learn as you get older. If you start telling kids how great sex is, then more are probably going to start having sex sooner

You can't be serious! Of course we need to tell girls/women that sex can be great! Most of them will probably never believe it otherwise until Mr Right comes along (sexually speaking) before they first have to encounter a fast amount of Mrs Wrong and bad experiences! You, of all people, should know this!

Tell girls how wonderful sex can be but educate them at the same time about what makes sex so special. And do tell the boys too. Not about the techniques necessarily, but about the emotions involved for both.

Gosh...

 

[Fennel]

Comprehensive sex education is not reproductive focused. That's a limited view and belies the vast majority of reasons for sexual conduct. Leaves me shaking my head, too, that something so fundamental to human existence can be censored from our educational system. (Worse, that it favors the LOONIES who wish to ram their conservative perspectives of same down our throats.)

I recommend the Goofy Foot Guide to Getting It On. It's available via Amazon (# ISBN-10: 1885535694, # ISBN-13: 978-1885535696) and directly from the publisher (simply google Goofy Foot Press). It's decidedly hetero in focus, although it doesn't neglect same sex details (nor does it assume that anal is just for the boys). The illustrations are skewed to whites (at least the last edition I saw was, damn it).

Online, there is also SIECUS, the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States. And Sex etc -- for teens by teens. Resources are out there, thank goodness.

As to the question posers age, come on', there are elected officials (grown ass men!) who are deliberately misleading their peers of all ages. I have known teens with better sense!

 

[MR.GGG]

""If you start telling kids how great sex is, then more are probably going to start having sex sooner."

You mean it could beat out PLAYSTATION or X BOX? Wouldn't THAT save a ton of money around Christmas?

I can see it now. 9 and 10 yr old birthday parties and everybody gets a gross of flavored condoms in their loot bag. There'd be panicky letters in here from guys asking how come the girls they've been having sex with for 4 or 5 YEARS now have HAIR growing just north of ground zero? And , like , what ARE those mounds of FAT on their chests? "Do they have cancer or something?"



"(Worse, that it favors the LOONIES who wish to ram their conservative perspectives of same down our throats.)"

Fennel, gimmie a break. The LOONIE LEFT have been running the education systems in the west for the last 30 years and they are waaay more screwed up and repressed than the self righteous LOONIE RIGHT would like everybody ELSE to be.

WHAT is it about this TERMINAL condition called Politically Correct that no mention of just plain SEX is allowed without sensitivity training and the fuzzy-feel-good inclusion of every known deviant behaviour known to men, women, homos, lesbos, cross dressers, trans-gendered, man-boy lovers, animal LOVERS, pee on me freeks, beat me freeks and if I've missed anybody my most humble apologies for leaving you out ... how crass of me? *grovel*scrape* I'll book myself into rehab and sensitivity training courses immediately.



OH GAWD, I FORGOT BLACKS, ASIANS, PYGMIES, GYPSIES, ABOS, ESKIMOS, DUST BUNNIES, ASTRONAUTS and WORM POACHERS !!!

 

[EJFan]

i'm all for sex education in school but i think the whole issue would be better handled if more parents took a significant role in their kids' lives in this regard. i don't know if we should be teaching about how fantastic an orgasm feels in public school sex-ed classes or not... but i am certain that if a parent and child can have that conversation (and ones like it) you're going to have a more well educated, well adjusted kid.

 

[MR.GGG]

i'm all for sex education in school but i think the whole issue would be better handled if more parents took a significant role in their kids' lives in this regard. i don't know if we should be teaching about how fantastic an orgasm feels in public school sex-ed classes or not... but i am certain that if a parent and child can have that conversation (and ones like it) you're going to have a more well educated, well adjusted kid.

I certainly HOPE you were including SAMESEX and MULTI-RACIAL parents in that too but otherwise .... YES. EXACTLY!!!







A tad too serious for this thread though, doncha tink?

 

[EJFan]

I certainly HOPE you were including SAMESEX and MULTI-RACIAL parents in that too but otherwise .... YES. EXACTLY!!!







A tad too serious for this thread though, doncha tink?

if you have a kid, you're a parent... i don't care if you're two parents, one parent, same sex, multi-racial, communal, adopted, foster, whatever. so, yeah, i'm using "parent" in the most universal, loosely interpreted way possible here. and while i'm at it, keep them the fuck away from the internet when unsupervised... particularly if your kid is a moron (and, as a parent, it's your job to objectively determine how stupid your offspring is/are).

sorry for the uncharacteristically serious nature of my posts but there were a couple of posts about sex ed classes and i just felt like chiming in.

 

[M's girl]

i'm all for sex education in school but i think the whole issue would be better handled if more parents took a significant role in their kids' lives in this regard. i don't know if we should be teaching about how fantastic an orgasm feels in public school sex-ed classes or not... but i am certain that if a parent and child can have that conversation (and ones like it) you're going to have a more well educated, well adjusted kid.

Exactly EJ... This is no business for schools to teach kids. Yeah, the facts about reproduction and such, but the rest is up to the parents. I don't have kids myself, but M has two young boys who are with us every other weekend and on holidays. We are talking about how we are going to talk sex to them when they start asking. I hope it will be a while still, but you never know Also, we need a plan for if they don't start asking. There are certain things they just need to know before they go out there....

I think all parents should have a plan on how to talk about sex and relationships with their kids. Between M and me it's easy to talk. I can imagine it's harder saying the right words to those kids when the time comes. But I'll be damned before I send two more boys into this world thinking that they deserved their right to fuck simply by being born a male...

 

[ickle_stace]

You can't be serious! Of course we need to tell girls/women that sex can be great! Most of them will probably never believe it otherwise until Mr Right comes along (sexually speaking) before they first have to encounter a fast amount of Mrs Wrong and bad experiences! You, of all people, should know this!

Tell girls how wonderful sex can be but educate them at the same time about what makes sex so special. And do tell the boys too. Not about the techniques necessarily, but about the emotions involved for both.

Gosh...

Yeah girls should be told that sex can feel great, but not at 10 years old which is when sex ed starts at school, atleast in britain anyway, or it did 12 years ago when I was 10. Telling them how good sex can be should be saved for when they're older or when their parents tell them. If you tell them having sex feels great, they'll want to go and try it, and there's enough of them doing it already.

 

[M's girl]

Yeah girls should be told that sex can feel great, but not at 10 years old which is when sex ed starts at school, atleast in britain anyway, or it did 12 years ago when I was 10. Telling them how good sex can be should be saved for when they're older or when their parents tell them. If you tell them having sex feels great, they'll want to go and try it, and there's enough of them doing it already.

I agree. Not when they are ten. But let's face it... if and when they do start to find out about sex you'd better chime in and tell them what they really need to know. Sometimes that's just at a very young age, but that's how it is. My niece started asking me questions about a year ago, when she was fourteen. Just because she was a bit confused about all the stuff she heard in school. She was telling me that her classmates were having sex already. I told her that might be true but it could also be just bragging. Girls have found out about that too, you know.

She did not want to know too much and too detailed. She set her own boundaries and I kept asking her if she was comfortable with what I told her. It was all good. It was so cute: she told me that this was what aunts were for. I was so proud of her. I will tell her everything she needs and wants to learn when she is ready, keeping in mind her age and state of mind. But I did tell her already (she was starting to wonder) it was perfectly OK that she did not want to have anything to do with sex yet.

Oh well.... we've got a few years still with the boys... luckily.

 

[EJFan]

sex ed started in my public school career at the age of 11 or 12 (depending on how old you were at the time in 6th grade... of course, around that area i'm sure we had a few 14 year olds... lol). at that point it was basically explaining puberty and the changes your body was going through. it only took a couple of hours during the whole school year to "teach" it.

by the time i got to high school it was pretty much clincal, biological kinds of things... std's, pregnancy, the reproductive system, etc. and took one fourth of one school year (that's one sixteenth of a high school career).

my parents never told me thing one about puberty or sex... absolutely nothing. i'm not sure where i picked up the mechanics (i guess it's mostly common sense and innate) but i only learned how to love and how to be an good lover by experience. it might have been my competitive nature but i always felt obligated to watch and listen because i wanted to be good. whether it was for myself or not in the beginning i can't say but however it started it became a habit so i'm always very observant... i guess that, and knowing your own body (which i've had plenty of practice with as well... lol) is about the best you can do.

sex isn't everything in life but i feel so incredibly sorry for the people who go around clueless.

 

[Chicklet]

NOT really meaning to *flame* him but definitely the system and a society where kids can grow up, finish school etc etc and still not have a clue about something so friggin basic. It really leaves me shaking my head.

The original post actually started a lot of interesting conversations between me and people all day yesterday.

Even if a teacher *was* to go into depth about orgasms, he or she would undoubtably be in trouble from parents and the school board for the obscene things she/he was saying. ugh.

 

[thecharlieman]

"low" end of the spectrum....

sex was an EXTREMELY taboo subject in our rigidly religious household when I was growing up. If Mom caught any of us talking about anything that even remotely sounded sexual, we got our asses smacked with a wooden yardstick, and mouths washed with soap.

Consequently, we were not allowed to take sex ed in school [yes, at the time it was the parent's option to allow or not] and so therefore all 5 of us boys didn't know a damned thing. Extremely embarrasing to have your first "wet dream" and not have a clue.

Also embarrasing to not know how a female is constructed or how anything "down there" works.

So, I made it my mission to make sure the lines of communication with my children were open especially as they reached puberty, over the strenuous objections from my first wife [same religion as my mom].....all 6 of our kids came to me with their questions.....I answered as best I could with the (at the time) limited knowledge I had.....nothing too graphic of course.


I do believe it is the PARENTS responsibility, not the school to teach about these things.

 

[wordofvirtue]

Yep, I'm on board with it being the parent's responsibility. My own sex-ed was pretty much nonexistent. Mom summed it up for me quite succinctly: "DON'T!!" Then she said something about making sure both parties kept one foot on the floor at all times. I'm not sure she thought that one through ...

Anyway, once I became a mom myself, I made sure that my young 'uns would have better information than I got. I have always been forthright with them. (They may say too much so! Ever see "Meet the Fockers"?) Not only did they get the condom lecture, they got to play with a couple condoms on a long car trip. I really wasn't planning to have that happen, but it worked well. They were able to giggle and blush and actually touch a condom. I was able to tell them that someday they would want to do things other than make balloons out of the condoms, and when that day came along to either go buy them or have me go do it. It took the mystery out of the subject. It wasn't naughty anymore. Any questions they have asked have always been answered honestly. My daughter and I read "Our Bodies, Ourselves" together. And if anyone attends the UU church, they have an excellent program called "Our Whole Lives" or OWL. It is a year long program for pre-teens to teens and covers everything from mechanics to the presentation of sex in the media to body image. Very comprehensive and also gay/bi/trans gendered positive.

I'm pretty sure that my son is getting more than I am. But I'd much rather find (empty!) boxes of condoms than be raising a grandchild. My daughter isn't there just yet. Knowing that sex is supposed to feel good hasn't turned her into a raging teenage nymphomaniac though. Whew!

We see endless pain, suffering, war, crime, murder, etc day in and day out on the television -- but Janet Jackson shows a nipple for a split second and the earth lurches on its axis. My 9 year old step-son plays some war game on the computer, killing and conquering whole countries, yet he sees normal everyday expressions of love (hand holding, a brief kiss) as gross, wrong and embarrassing. It's hard for me to wrap my head around. Sex is used to sell everything from snack food to sneakers. To fail to educate your children about it is absolutely negligent.

WoV

 

[grayin]

Funny This tread made me remember my HS health class 25+ years ago. I remember after a film the class clown cracked the "But how does the sperm get in there?"

Whole room chacked up.

 

[Fennel]

Fennel, gimmie a break. The LOONIE LEFT have been running the education systems in the west for the last 30 years and they are waaay more screwed up and repressed than the self righteous LOONIE RIGHT would like everybody ELSE to be.

WHAT is it about this TERMINAL condition called Politically Correct that no mention of just plain SEX is allowed without sensitivity training and the fuzzy-feel-good inclusion of every known deviant behaviour known to men, women, homos, lesbos, cross dressers, trans-gendered, man-boy lovers, animal LOVERS, pee on me freeks, beat me freeks and if I've missed anybody my most humble apologies for leaving you out ... how crass of me? *grovel*scrape* I'll book myself into rehab and sensitivity training courses immediately.



OH GAWD, I FORGOT BLACKS, ASIANS, PYGMIES, GYPSIES, ABOS, ESKIMOS, DUST BUNNIES, ASTRONAUTS and WORM POACHERS !!!

Sorry. Let's restrict the sex education to just what it was meant to be (like they do in the rest of the country): none.

Maybe, GGG, you are privileged enough to live in the Peoples Republic of San Francisco where grappling with how to handle sexual diversity may be a given. But the rest of the citizenry is living in the Land of the Delusional where, as wordofvirtue points out, a bare nipple on television can give rise to public outcry, and members of Republican-controlled Congress spent their precious time passing a bill that would have the FCC increase "indecency" fines to $375,000 per incident (because the previous amounts were "too low").

And heard of abstinence-only programs, dear? Federally-funded and directed for public schools throughout the nation, but statistically unsound and contrary to public health initiatives. (Read some clips from the curricula online. Now THAT is some freaky RIGHT WING shit.) Bush proposed $270 million for abstinence-only education for 2008.

All of this "sex education" brought to you by our spend-my-tax-money-on-b.s. "Conservatives."


Edited to add: sorry for derailing this thread even further! Let's get back to squirting orgasm fun!

 

[emptynester]

School vs. Parent

I have mixed emotions about this. I used to agree that sex should only be taught at home. After working in the school system for 5 years with elementary kids who knew more about sex than I did, I realized that for a lot of kids what they were being taught at home about sex is the stuff that produces social deviants, sex offenders, abusers and so on.

A lot of kids can't get the help they need on homework assignments or even a signature on a paper indicating that a parent (or someone) at least looked at something their child did in school. That's OK though. They are being taught anything and everything they will ever need to know about sex - at home.

Let's face it, for a lot of kids, home is exactly where they learn about "sex". It is disgusting the environment some kids have to grow up in.

I didn't agree with our school system when they split up the boys and girls in 5th grade and (with my boys) gave them a book about their bodies and how they were going to change during puberty. I didn't agree with teaching them in 6th about STD's, unwanted pregnancies, using protection, etc. That was supposed to be my job.

I accepted it because I didn't want to sign the paper that my boys could not be included in those classes and have them embarressed in front of their friends when they were singled out and sent to the library instead.

I decided to go with it and then sat down with them at night to go over what they had been taught. I was surprised at what I (I mean they) learned.

I am sure for those kids who never got the opportunity to sit down with someone at home, it didn't matter. They had already been "home schooled" on how to get STD's, "wanted" pregnancies so mom could get more $ for having another dependent, BDSM sex - the rougher the better, etc.

I still believe sex should be taught at home, but so should "family values" like making sure there is heat in the home, proper clothes and shoes, food on the table (or at least in the frig so they can help themselves) and, oh, let's don't forget that "family value" love.

I think I have finally come to the conclusion that for some kids it better be taught in school. Home for some (and more than I ever imagined) is definitely not the place.

And, yes Mr GGG, I know this is too serious for this thread, but something tells me we've got bigger problems than getting gf to squirt.

 

[M's girl]

..... We see endless pain, suffering, war, crime, murder, etc day in and day out on the television -- but Janet Jackson shows a nipple for a split second and the earth lurches on its axis. My 9 year old step-son plays some war game on the computer, killing and conquering whole countries, yet he sees normal everyday expressions of love (hand holding, a brief kiss) as gross, wrong and embarrassing. It's hard for me to wrap my head around. Sex is used to sell everything from snack food to sneakers. To fail to educate your children about it is absolutely negligent.

WoV

Well said!

 

[wordofvirtue]

I never meant to imply that the school shouldn't present any sex ed material at all. Health class covers all issues of health, including sex ed. The real debate seems to be over a couple of specifics -- at what age do you present material, and do you present material spanning into other than heterosexual topics?

As for age, the sooner the better in my book. Good touch/bad touch needs to be discussed even to pre-schoolers. I know that's going to raise eyebrows, but it's a matter of personal safety. Look at the news. There are sickos everywhere. You use vocabulary based on age. As much as I disagree with the boy scouts on their homophobia, they do a very good job at educating the scouts on good touch/bad touch and they start right away. (One caveat though is that they just provide written material and it is up to the parents to do the actual teaching. It's in every scout book, though.)

As far as issues like STD's and pregnancy, most people would think elementary school is too soon but I don't. By 5th grade you will start seeing kids enter puberty. Life isn't the same as it used to be. The kids are going to learn about sex no matter what. Public education I think *does* owe students factual, truthful information. You'd be amazed at how many misconceptions and outright crap a lot of adults believe regarding sexual health. I can't tell you how many times I've had to give the "how you really get an STD" speech to adults. Nope, toilet seats don't harbor exotic jumping gonorrhea organisms!

"Other than heterosexual" gets into the grey area of values/morality. Of course, some folks feel that even telling kids about het sexuality does as well. Ultimately those are at-home discussions. Schools can teach facts and critical thinking skills, but moral judgments they can't touch. Too many people would have a meltdown on that. My daughter told me a couple of weeks ago that they are being taught about "permissive behaviors." It wasn't that she didn't appreciate the intention, but some of the examples of what constituted permissive behaviors she thought were wrong. (Specifically, tattooing came up and she thinks she wants to sling ink for a living when she grows up.)

I feel like I'm rambling. I can't disagree with any of emptynester's comments on poor parenting.