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Cadoras said:
*Waves to the Cleric*

I'm not feeling too wordy today... Which I'm sure will make everyone happy.....

But I have to say.... A life without love isn't a life that interests me... Everyone needs to love and feel loved, no matter the risk....

I shall avoid ranting on the subject though! I'm sure even nerds need love *Nods*

*Waves back*

Rambling rants are what I'm seeking here.

I don't want the standard 'love is life' bit.
Been there. Not fun.

I'm looking for a solid nerd discussion.

Edit; I only now realized I need to be awake and working in five hours.
Must sleep now.
I seek a philosophical discussion on love.
 
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Love: something we can and cannot live with




possibly the only thing that can make us alive and make us die at the same time.


Love, in my eyes, can be joyful, tempting, sensual, calming, warm, and overall- a article of warm clothing that you can slip into. But just like clothing, you can take off love and throw it aside, only to picked up again and again.

Love is a vicious cycle that you can never get out of. Do not believe people when they say " I do not believe in love". Because love comes in various forms. You can hate relationships and say you "distrust everyone". But you can "love" a favorite show, or am pet. Love is everywhere for everything and everyone.

But Love can be gloomy too. A loss at love is like the most hurtful thing you can experience- emotionally. Take a long-term relationship for example. You pour your trust, emotions, a part of you into this "love", for what? To be smashed into a million pieces. Or as I will reference a talk me and someone I treasure as a best friend had long ago. " If someone were to hurt me, or leave me, it's like ripping off a arm." Sure it hurts, but like any part of your body, be it a arm or a finger- it eventually heals- sometimes not entirely, but you move on. But noone wants to experience the downside of love. Everyone wants to experience the "high" of love.


Love comes with consequences. It always has and it always will.
Love is something we all want, but- it comes in limitations. The best experience I feel with love, is when your with someone, when that "honeymoon" stage sets in. That's the best feeling in the world. But once you get settled in, and get comfy in a relationship, you end up with arguements, struggles and sadly, sometimes fights beyond repair.

Hence comes to the question that i desperately wish i could answer


"Why love when it only leads to despair?"
 
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SexyCleric said:
*Waves back*

Rambling rants are what I'm seeking here.

I don't want the standard 'love is life' bit.
Been there. Not fun.

I'm looking for a solid nerd discussion.

Ah, but love isn't just life..... I mean you can survive without love.... But a life devoid of love, isn't likely to be a truly happy one.... That's not to say people in love are always happy....

For me... Love is something that makes the world a brighter place.... When I'm in love I'm happier, even when things are bad.... I look forward to each day because there's someone I care about so deeply in the world and I want that person to know it, to be able to feel it in me....

I don't know if true love exists... If each person has one other person that they are destined to be with.... But I do believe in love and that two people can resonate happiness together, to make each person more alive than they could ever be separate... I'm torn on the question of whether love can be real if there's no physical expression..... I believe it can be, but I know that there should be more to it... Without a physical connection, there will always be some doubt, however small.... Yes, you can love a person's personality, their heart.... But there's so much more to the world....

But, I'm not sure I'm helping with your philosophical discussion....
 
Cadoras said:
Ah, but love isn't just life..... I mean you can survive without love.... But a life devoid of love, isn't likely to be a truly happy one.... That's not to say people in love are always happy....

For me... Love is something that makes the world a brighter place.... When I'm in love I'm happier, even when things are bad.... I look forward to each day because there's someone I care about so deeply in the world and I want that person to know it, to be able to feel it in me....

I don't know if true love exists... If each person has one other person that they are destined to be with.... But I do believe in love and that two people can resonate happiness together, to make each person more alive than they could ever be separate... I'm torn on the question of whether love can be real if there's no physical expression..... I believe it can be, but I know that there should be more to it... Without a physical connection, there will always be some doubt, however small.... Yes, you can love a person's personality, their heart.... But there's so much more to the world....

But, I'm not sure I'm helping with your philosophical discussion....


Same here. I only wrote down what I felt.
 
I believe like, Caddlebear, that you can survive without love but those are the people who are usually withdrawn and bitter, having no one to be with or share anything with.
No, people in love arent always happy. That only happens in fairytales and the movies.
I do believe in love, that is it out there. Sometimes not so easily found. Sometimes you have to give up the search and let it find you instead.


{{{{{Caddlebearie}}}}}
 
Lady Reiha said:
Same here. I only wrote down what I felt.


SweetSassyVixen said:
I believe like, Caddlebear, that you can survive without love but those are the people who are usually withdrawn and bitter, having no one to be with or share anything with.
No, people in love arent always happy. That only happens in fairytales and the movies.
I do believe in love, that is it out there. Sometimes not so easily found. Sometimes you have to give up the search and let it find you instead.


{{{{{Caddlebearie}}}}}

*Huggles you both and bounces around!*

You guys rock! :)
 
Well, to reply to two things here...

#1: I have discovered that time has somewhat slowed but not completely dulled my StarCraft skills; I have not played in probably almost a year, but I have won all the games I've played today.

#2: On the topic of love...

Love is something that is difficult to describe or define. It's the so-happy-you-want-to-cry feeling in the pit of your stomach, it's the oh-shit-what-have-I-done kind of horror when you hurt the one you love, it's depths of despair and heights of happiness (to borrow from cliche).

Love is something that can instantly click or develop over time; it pounces like a hunter upon prey when it hits you. It's the spring in your step or the dragging of your knuckles on the ground.

It is the feeling of warmth in someone's arms, the stinging pain of a cold shoulder, and what gives meaning and feeling to a life devoid of such until then.

I've never really found love by looking for it; it comes to me when I'm ready for a change in my life, when I'm ready for something new and then goes when it's done. Try all I might, I have never found it by searching.

To answer Reiha's question, I believe the reason we should love, despite its only leading to despair (I feel that's strong myself...) is that unless we have that love, would we ever know that sense of despair? Why do we love? Why not? Love is not an on-off thing. Love is a mountain... if you want to see the peaks, you have to climb up from the valley. Eventually you'll meet the wise man at the top and you won't ever have to leave ;)

Edit: Of course, living on a mountain has its own difficulties and wouldn't be easy... I mean, you'd need to climb back down every once in a while for groceries.
 
Ok Nerds and Nerdettes!! I need help! I have pictures from Ozzfest and a couple movie clips from there also that I need some computer nerd help with. The pictures were taken with there a zoom on camera and when they are blown up, they are grainy.. is there anything I can do it fix that or a program that will help??

also, I have a video clip of this old lady headbanging at the concert. The problem with it is that I need to get the clip to rotate so she is upright...The only program it will work with is quicktime which I don't seem to like at all... if anyone has any thoughts please either message me in a PM or write it on the wall. I will probably get the Pm a little quicker.

thanks in advance to anyone that can help me out.

MICRO
 
Well, there are noise reduction programs out there, and you can simulate them by spending some time with Photoshop's Unsharp Mask tool.. I'm not at home right now so can't photoshop them for you.

Just do a search for noise reduction software, there might be some free ones out there.

As for the video, not a clue, I'm not into videography. Sorry :)


ETA: Were the photos taken with Digital Zoom? Or just regular zoom in a dark place?
 
tolyk said:
Well, there are noise reduction programs out there, and you can simulate them by spending some time with Photoshop's Unsharp Mask tool.. I'm not at home right now so can't photoshop them for you.

Just do a search for noise reduction software, there might be some free ones out there.

As for the video, not a clue, I'm not into videography. Sorry :)


ETA: Were the photos taken with Digital Zoom? Or just regular zoom in a dark place?


digital zoom..
 
microbiology311 said:
digital zoom..
Never use digital zoom ;)

It destroys the quality of your image.. if you can't step forward, use the fullest analog zoom you can, then crop the picture for the part you want.

You might be able to reduce some of the noise from digital zoom, but you won't get back the quality.
 
tolyk said:
Never use digital zoom ;)

It destroys the quality of your image.. if you can't step forward, use the fullest analog zoom you can, then crop the picture for the part you want.

You might be able to reduce some of the noise from digital zoom, but you won't get back the quality.



Looks like you didn't help her at all.


The best thing I can think of is downloading FotoFinish. It's a nifty little tool that can help get rid of minor oppsies such as red-eye and cloudiness. So it may be able to help with your photo's. Like Tolly said, you should use Analog- I have nothing else to add to his deffinition. Here's the link
I believe there's a 30-day trial still, so maybe it'll help. Good luck Micro!
As for the video.. I'm not sure hun. I'm sowwy!
 
rhyst_hatchyk said:
To answer Reiha's question, I believe the reason we should love, despite its only leading to despair (I feel that's strong myself...) is that unless we have that love, would we ever know that sense of despair? Why do we love? Why not? Love is not an on-off thing. Love is a mountain... if you want to see the peaks, you have to climb up from the valley. Eventually you'll meet the wise man at the top and you won't ever have to leave ;)

But what makes you say that? How do you know that you won't ever have to leave?
 
Lady Reiha said:
But what makes you say that? How do you know that you won't ever have to leave?

Well.... Only using the mountain theory briefly.... While you may never have to leave the mountain.... There may come a time when you're unwelcome on the mountain, it becomes a less welcoming place.....

Because love between two people can only exist if both people feel the same.... And even if you still love a person, it can't work if they don't love you, it will only hurt you more.... With things as unpredictable as people's emotions.... There is nothing that can be guaranteed to last forever.... All you can do is treasure what you have and hope that the feelings will never fade, for either of you....
 
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Cadoras said:
Well.... Only using the mountain theory briefly.... While you may never have to leave the mountain.... There may come a time when you're unwelcome on the mountain, it becomes a less welcoming place.....

Because love between two people can only exist if both people feel the same.... And even if you still love a person, it can't work if they don't love you, it will only hurt you more.... With things as unpredictable as people's emotions.... There is nothing can be guaranteed to last forever.... All you can do is treasure what you have and hope that the feelings will never fade, for either of you....
HEY!!
 
asian_princess said:
You're here!! why aren't you there!?

Erm? Where is there?

I'm confuzzled!

I'm everywhere I should be.....

Are you sure you're everywhere you're looking for me?
 
Lady Reiha said:
But what makes you say that? How do you know that you won't ever have to leave?

The wise man is the analogy for the "love of your life," to put it simply. If it's meant to be, then you'll be there forever. The peaks and valleys are the ups and downs of relationships that get you to that point :D

Edit: and the going down for groceries is the little struggles in the relationship that make it work; if it's really true love, then then it's worth fighting for and giving everything. It might seem optimistic, but I believe there's someone out there for everyone.
 
SexyCleric said:
What is a life without love?

That is the Cleric's challenge to you all.
I ask not that you post in response, unless you wish, but to ponder it.
Can a life be lived without love?

Having now pondered this for a couple of days I believe I am ready to answer.

The simple answer is yes. Life can be fulfilling and complete without love.

The complex answer is more complex :cool:

The post that follows is long, a bit of a ramble, and probably won't interest 99% of you. I wrote it mostly because I wanted to.

Cleric hang in there. It'll be alright eventually.
 
Love is not needed...

The following is all predicated on the idea that to “meaning of life” is to continually work to make oneself complete. I do not mean complete as in perfect…I do not happen to perfection exists… but that one grows and learns and adapts to the experiences in ones life.

It seems to me you are speaking mostly about romantic love, love between people, and the dangers inherent within that narrow spectrum.

It is true that once you have experienced the heights of love that going on without that same completeness is difficult at best. Even after having one’s heart crushed, raped, and otherwise abused it seeks that completeness from other sources. I believe it is these other sources that allow life to continue on and be amazing and fruitful.

While I am not a nerd per say…I do have a love of something very nerdy. Knowledge.

Knowledge and the pursuit of it makes me feel complete. Truthfully when I go a few days without reading the news or actively setting forth to experience something I enjoy I feel horrible. It’s like I know I am under utilizing my abilities and skills to further make myself into a complete person.

I get the very same feeling in my heart when I am not allowed (for whatever reason) to use its abilities and skills to love a person. I feel achy. Like I am not reaching my full potential. I know I have more I could give and if I was given the chance incredible things would happen.

Unlike my pursuit of knowledge there is a caveat in loving a person…it requires another person.

This is where I see the big difference.

I am not of the mind that life requires me to be social to be complete. It certainly can be nice and brings out different ideas and thoughts and interests, but being fully dependent on another person, even a person as sweet and amazing as to be worthy of love, simply does not jive with my concept of how a life should be lived.

In terms of the law love is a privilege…not a right.

That includes love in any form. Parental. Familial. The love of a best friend. Whatever.

Now I believe each of us has a unique soul and thus we all have unique wants and needs. My love of knowledge is not going to translate to some people. Some may love the Earth and working in the fields. Some may love creating safe environments for others to enjoy. Still others may simply find pleasure and love in experiencing a good book. To me it is these unique things about the individual that makes life complete. A person who is unable to experience their unique needs and desires can have the most amazing, beautiful lover who appreciates and is appreciated in return and the person will still feel miserable.

I give the most prominent example in our western world. The housewife.

She has a loving husband. Children who are bright, active, and well on their way to living happy and productive lives. She is loved and loves and yet she feels trapped. She is unable to “do” the things she wants. She has every material possession she could ever desire. She has safety and security. She “seems” to have the perfect life.

She is not complete.

So she ends her marriage. She leaps out into the world hoping to find something to complete her. She gives up her material security and the knowledge that her children are being raised in the “best” kind of environment. She often stumbles and regrets her choices, but eventually she finds out that she is in control of her completeness and then decides how best to proceed.

That is how it should happen, but we are human and we screw up and are not always able to overcome the pain and the suffering. Sometimes we are not able to realize our inner strength and we just float along hoping something will jar us into a new life.

While this will sound incredibly conceited I do not believe I require anyone else to be the person I am “supposed” to be. I believe I have it within myself to be what I want and need to be without any outside assistance. Perhaps the journey to be complete would be easier with assistance and there is nothing wrong with seeking and accepting help, but within each person there is a reserve to pick up and carry on without having to be told to do so.

I certainly believe that one should not actively deny loving another person. Part of life is experiencing what is available and love is one of those experiences that colors everything and forces one to think (or in my case ponder) about, well, everything.

Now with all of that said I have chosen personally to love and love as much as I can.

I tend to fall hard for the people in my life. I care deeply for them and therefore when they ignore me, forget about me, takes me for granted, push me off to the side for others, or outright does something they know will hurt me it affects me greatly.

Most of the old regulars know about my nemesis month of July.

July is my nemesis month mostly because that is the month when my heart has been severely harmed. Two of the women I loved deeply left me in July. My father was a dumb ass when he had a heart attack and wouldn’t go to the hospital in July and consequently almost died when another more severe heart attack struck in August. There are any number of smaller things that have occurred in July not worth getting into.

Regardless of how much July can throw at me I still feel compelled to love. Perhaps it is one of those unique things that is required of me personally to be complete. I do not really know. It is somewhat contradictory that I believe one does not need other people and yet I feel compelled to love other people.

I guess, in the end, I don’t really expect other people to love me and so maybe that is the real answer.

Love, but do not expect your love to be returned. You do not require love to be complete.
 
I thank you all.
Honest answers from some wise folk.

You'd think a high Fort save would prevent inebriation, and a high Will would prevent mindless ranting on my part, but then again, what do I know?

Cleric's Quest completed!
Nerds gain 1,400 XP.
Depending on your system of choice, this could be a metric fuckton, or barely scrapping the surface.
 
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