Obama's Accomplishments in 2014

[Disgustipated]

I've served my country, I've paid all of my taxes, I've never been arrested, I've raised three law abiding productive sons. How have I harmed American society? Are you saying that my free speech and my opposition to Obama and his imperial, illegal actions, as President are harmful to society in general, or just to you and your undying devotion to your Obama boot licking campaign?

You raped children while serving your country.

Taxes are a communist theory.

You're NOT SUPPOSED TO GET ARRESTED!

Your children dispise you.

 

[Que]

Considering how he rails against those who don't add sufficient substance to threads, you might think he could do better than donuts. He may just be in a snit because the Prez approval rating is now higher than disapprovals.

What is his "strongly approve" versus "strongly disapprove" number look like?

 

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[Adre]

Highly suspect polls that were not reflected in the only poll that matters in America, the last election.

Gallup is highly suspect? Since when?

 

[Disgustipated]

Highly suspect polls that were not reflected in the only poll that matters in America, the last election.

So the only polls that matter are the ones you post? Sure, the Pubs won the last election but that pesky black dude...

 

[Adre]

What is his "strongly approve" versus "strongly disapprove" number look like?

Don't know, that was not my question.

 

[Adre]

Highly suspect polls that were not reflected in the only poll that matters in America, the last election.

Just answer the question, petunia.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm willing to admit that establishment Republicans do support the huge administrative state they helped to erect. I will not say that conservatives support the same. We support limited government.

Then why the fanatical support for establishment Republicans of which not even the slightest resemblance of your conservatism (limited government) beyond lip service can be found?

It isn't cheaper. By every measure it costs more.

Then how come damn near every 1st world industrialized nation out there with UHC pays less than 1/2 what we do? A couple of countries are close to 2/3 our cost but not a single fucking one matches us, not even close to what we spend.

Reagan care was the most expensive socialized HC system of ALL FUCKING TIME....by a landslide.

It doesn't produce better results and happier populations. If it did it would be wildly popular,

That must be why EVERY 1st world industrialized nation on the planet except the United States of Derp has it.....

and the majority of Americans wouldn't be supporting its repeal.

We don't have UHC dip shit....we have a republican insurance rip off scheeme replacing a horribly bad socialized ER medicine system that was also Republican.

Obama care is

Not UHC, socialized medicine or what the fuck I'm talking about....

Unless you're actually stupid enough to think ACA= UHC.....are you seriously that stupid?

 

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[Adre]

Didn't say Gallup was suspect. I said the poll results were suspect, in that the love and adoration they imply for the President, wasn't present in the last election. So, what is the methodology of the poll?

Look it up yourself, you deflecting moron.

 

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[Que]

Look it up yourself, you deflecting moron.

How is it deflection to point out you Obama fans are in the distinct minority? Broken down by gender even less..Obama fan boys are about 16%. The ambivalent center is not an endorsement. None of them showed up to support him in the last election where he said "these policies are on the ballot."

Die hard supporters range from 20% to 25% max. Detractors are rarely under 35%. The rest aren't paying attention. His numbers have always been artificially higher because few want to admit they can;t stand him. This is why he can have a "likability" rating in positive territory, yet have each and every individual policy issue polling below 40%

But, by all means...keep patting yourself on the back what a find, reasoned decision you made.

 

[BotanyBoy]

nvm I'll reply shortly.

 

[Adre]

How is it deflection to point out you Obama fans are in the distinct minority? Broken down by gender even less..Obama fan boys are about 16%. The ambivalent center is not an endorsement. None of them showed up to support him in the last election where he said "these policies are on the ballot."

Die hard supporters range from 20% to 25% max. Detractors are rarely under 35%. The rest aren't paying attention. His numbers have always been artificially higher because few want to admit they can;t stand him. This is why he can have a "likability" rating in positive territory, yet have each and every individual policy issue polling below 40%

But, by all means...keep patting yourself on the back what a find, reasoned decision you made.

I will speak slowly. I asked who would have a better year: Obama or Congress?

 

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[Que]

I will speak slowly. I asked who would have a better year: Obama or Congress?

B u s h .... o r .. c o n g r e s s?

O b a m a ... o r ... r a i n b o w s p r i n k l e s ?

 

[Adre]

I don't need to dipshit. I know what this game is all about real deflecting, something you only think you understand.

Who will have a better year and a better approval rating at years end?

 

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[RobDownSouth]

Didn't say Gallup was suspect. I said the poll results were suspect, in that the love and adoration they imply for the President, wasn't present in the last election. So, what is the methodology of the poll?

Seems to me that President Obama got the majority of the popular AND the electoral votes the last time he ran, back in 2012.

 

[Sean]

It is in this country. This from Wiki:

U.S. health reform in the period 1912-1920 was an issue raised nationally by Theodore Roosevelt's call for national health insurance, in his third party bid for president in the election of 1912. Woodrow Wilson was preoccupied with other domestic policy issues and World War I, so most of the debate during this period was at the state level.

The American Association for Labor Legislation was instrumental in developing and advocating a model insurance law for universal health insurance that would have been administered on a compulsory basis by the states. Although this model bill was introduced in several state legislatures, progress on state-level universal coverage initiatives stalled.

Conservatism and fears of communism of the latter years of World War I and its immediate aftermath, were factors. Doctors, some of whom initially supported reform efforts, became the chief force opposing reform.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doc_Tropics/United_States_health_reform_1912-1920



It isn't civilized. It denies individual freedom of choice. Through it's asphyxiating regulatory scheme, it creates an over arching government influence and management environment of our health care industry. It will kill efficiency, and prevent free market solutions. It filters decisions made my doctors and heath care professionals through a ideologically centered government bureaucracy that will result in shortages and rationing of services. This concept of health care is repugnant to the plain language of the Constitution, and to the American people. Polls show it.

I recognize that Socialism seems so civilized to Europeans who have never embraced individualism, never threw off the yoke of oppressive government, or the prerogatives of deferring to royalty. Remember, we left you and your love of it, and came here to build a bigger, better, country. We came here in order to leave you and your 20 year cycles of war and revolution, your many insults to personal freedom, and your collectivist ideas.

How is my freedom curtailed because I don't fear bankruptcy if I get sick?

 

[Que]

Who will have a better year and a better approval rating at years end?

ALL presidents have better approval ratings than congress, dunce. Congress is a collection of people. NO ONE likes any of congress with the exception of the asshole congresspeople they sent there.

How about who is going to have a better year, congressperson X, or Obama?....even that is a silly comparison, but better than the contest you are proposing.

To answer your ridiculously inane question, if fucking BIDEN, (God forbid) succeeds Obama before year end, even HE would have a better approval rating than congress. If Boehner (God REALLY forbid) were to succeed both of them by year end under a cloud of suspicion that he had something to do with their demise, HE would have a higher approval rating than congress by years end.

Who will have a better year? The PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES with a bully pulpit at his disposal and 4 TRILLION dollars of patronage to dole out, or used car salesmen? Lawyers?

 

[BotanyBoy]

When have you seen me support an establishment Republican. I'm backing Scott Walker, not Jeb Bush.

Are you serious?

GW Bush, Romney...ACA himself, should I keep digging for all the (R)'s you have ever given the nod of approval or vote?

I'm guessing you want exact dates and post links or you never once supported any of them in any way shape form or fashion right??...

I'm referring to the United States, where such a program is being offered to 320,000,000 people. None of those nations have anywhere near our population or economic demographics.

It's per-capita cost.

What part of our economic demographics means we should be paying 2.7 + times the price for the same shit? EXACTLY I want a full detailed explanation why YOU Vetteman think the US citizen should pay 2.7 times more than ANYONE else on the planet for the same shit.

First prove it existed, then how much it costs, and what it consisted of.

See above.

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals that accept payments from Medicare to provide emergency health care treatment to anyone needing it regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act

The most expensive, fail boat, socialized ER HC system of all time.....Reagan care. And you LOVED it. You even claimed we had the best HC on the planet until ACA on numerous occasions.

So you support that but not UHC? A cheaper preventative version of socialized HC??

It is definitely socialized medicine, socialized by direction and though the regulatory process.

So anything with government regulation = socialism ?

I think it's corporatism medicine...the HC and insurance industries have benefited FAR more than the people. It would be socialized if it weren't such a Pfizer dick suck.

It is not single payer, but that's what Marxist Democrats want. They want to impose the disastrous VA system, which is single payer, on all of America.

Who ever said they would impose UHC? Everyone I have ever seen support it except maybe rob just wants to make it an option for those who otherwise have no options....not force you into going to visit a death panel for tin foil hat inspections.

Must be like public schools impose education upon people right?

 

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[Que]

The last time his policies were on the ballot (November) he lost the popular vote and the electoral map as well.