oggbashan doesn't get enough props

Maybe you're referring to politicians from a more 'middle level'. A lot of those are genuine, in my opinion.
But a lot of politicians who manage to climb the ladder, irrespective of affiliation - they must have "what it takes" to be able to succeed. Aka to be able to scheme, lie and be cut-throat.
But that's just a personal opinion.

Moreover, you tend to look for the good in people. Others don't.

I've met, and worked with, politicians from the local parish-pump level to cabinet ministers. Yes, some of them are very ambitious and willing to succeed, but the same was true of my very senior people at work including me.

But we don't have the personal animosity that US politicans seem to have. Members of Parliament are generally reasonable with each other. They may shout at each other in the House of Commons but then meet in the bar or restaurant afterwards.

It is essential for any Member of Parliament from the main parties to have a 'pair' - someone from the other party who will cooperate if one of them cannot attend an important vote - so that the relative voting power of each party is maintained. Working on a daily basis with an opponent builds trust and mutual respect even if you think the other guy has seriously weird ideas.
 
I've met, and worked with, politicians from the local parish-pump level to cabinet ministers. Yes, some of them are very ambitious and willing to succeed, but the same was true of my very senior people at work including me.

But we don't have the personal animosity that US politicans seem to have. Members of Parliament are generally reasonable with each other. They may shout at each other in the House of Commons but then meet in the bar or restaurant afterwards.

It is essential for any Member of Parliament from the main parties to have a 'pair' - someone from the other party who will cooperate if one of them cannot attend an important vote - so that the relative voting power of each party is maintained. Working on a daily basis with an opponent builds trust and mutual respect even if you think the other guy has seriously weird ideas.

Oh, you had those experiences. And I think you might be right.

Having worked in a few major institutions for several years, I enjoyed working with more 'middle' sort of 'managers but have developed a virulent dislike for those at a more 'top-level'. I've seen them fire employees with families just to 'cover their back'. And they see you as being just a 'nomber'.

But I guess applying my view of top managers to politicians is not always correct.
 
I've had the pleasure of meeting Og in person over a pint or two. He's a genuine fella. Plus: Cake hat.
 
No, he doesn't get enough credit. There should be an Ogg Appreciation Day all ov the British Empire!

Incidentally Ogg, I have absolutely no clue about anything you wrote in your first post on this thread but I read it with Sir Winston Churchill's voice and now I'm ready to defend Dunkirk.
 
I want to sit at his feet and have him tell me stories.

An appreciatory :kiss: from the good little witch.
 
Thank you to everyone.

Og appreciation? I would like a few more red Hs on my stories but some of them have a very limited appeal, or are seriously weird. :rolleyes:
 
ogg's a good bloke and can always be relied upon to have a story, experience and/or information about such a vast array of topics he's my goto man when i need answers :cool: particularly about books!
 
ogg's a good bloke and can always be relied upon to have a story, experience and/or information about such a vast array of topics he's my goto man when i need answers :cool: particularly about books!

That's because I was a secondhand bookdealer for a decade. I still advise two local charity bookshops but I'm trying to reduce my library by a few thousand books.
 
That's because I was a secondhand bookdealer for a decade. I still advise two local charity bookshops but I'm trying to reduce my library by a few thousand books.

i remember :)

that's gonna be a tough job. is there a library you could donate them to? a college/nursing home/hospice? just don't send them to my shop - not this week anyway - we've had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds in... no more room at the inn :eek:
 
i remember :)

that's gonna be a tough job. is there a library you could donate them to? a college/nursing home/hospice? just don't send them to my shop - not this week anyway - we've had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds in... no more room at the inn :eek:

I usually give them to the National Trust locally. I started their collection for a book weekend several years ago.

Over a three month period I gave them seven tonnes of books. They still have some of them in unopened boxes. :rolleyes: They average £60 a week in book sales with only a couple of hours volunteer effort each week to tidy the books. People bring books in, put them on the shelves, and buy some more - many of which come back a few weeks later.

Our local charity bookshop gets several hundred donated books a day. After the years they have been open the volunteers have learned what might be valuable from my printed guide and by talking to me. I only have to price about 100 selected books a week.

I have given talks to the managers of the charity's other shops as well because they get given books too.
 
Ogg is a pleasure to read. Smart, sharp, and witty are a winning combo.
 
He gives hope to us all. Witty, fun, enthusiastic and energetic, even in his 107th year.
 
Count me in to the Ogg fan club. I have never interacted with him personally, but his posts and writings definitely raise the bar around here.
 
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