Okay, so, he’s sixteen but

[Bramblethorn]

My reaction was "whatever a 19-year-old girl might get up to." I didn't jump immediately to it being sexual.

Why not 18? is a good question. Why mention their ages at all? is another. The sister should probably be older than 19. But it doesn't matter if the story doesn't otherwise break the rules.

When somebody posts a thing that could be interpreted more than one way, I find it helpful to work from the assumption that they were trying to say something coherent that made sense to them.*

Like, yes "whatever" could mean singing along to the radio, and him calling her "mistress" could have been because she's running their D&D game or something. But then there's no coherent thread that links those things to one another and to his age. Not a lot of people are just going to post those three unrelated things all in one sentence.

(If we want to put a fancy name on this, it's the cooperative principle, specifically informativity and relevance.)

*Sometimes this assumption proves untenable and has to be discarded, but it goes a long way.

 

[NotWise]

When somebody posts a thing that could be interpreted more than one way, I find it helpful to work from the assumption that they were trying to say something coherent that made sense to them.*

Like, yes "whatever" could mean singing along to the radio, and him calling her "mistress" could have been because she's running their D&D game or something. But then there's no coherent thread that links those things to one another and to his age. Not a lot of people are just going to post those three unrelated things all in one sentence.

(If we want to put a fancy name on this, it's the cooperative principle, specifically informativity and relevance.)

*Sometimes this assumption proves untenable and has to be discarded, but it goes a long way.

Are you applying the principle to the story, or to AlinaX's post?

 

[lovecraft68]

Maybe the author can claim its about context.

When somebody posts a thing that could be interpreted more than one way, I find it helpful to work from the assumption that they were trying to say something coherent that made sense to them.*

Like, yes "whatever" could mean singing along to the radio, and him calling her "mistress" could have been because she's running their D&D game or something. But then there's no coherent thread that links those things to one another and to his age. Not a lot of people are just going to post those three unrelated things all in one sentence.

(If we want to put a fancy name on this, it's the cooperative principle, specifically informativity and relevance.)

*Sometimes this assumption proves untenable and has to be discarded, but it goes a long way.

Stop that, you're pissing on the parade of the people who love to flail about in righteous indignation about how appalling this is.

If someone sees something like this and wants to report it, do so. Running here to start a thread just smacks of looking for attention and to have a pitch fork waving mob effect.

But what you're saying sounds like thinking along the lines of 'context' which seems to have let other stories get away with sketchy skirting of rules.

 

[ElectricBlue]

My reaction was "whatever a 19-year-old girl might get up to." I didn't jump immediately to it being sexual.

Why not 18? is a good question. Why mention their ages at all? is another. The sister should probably be older than 19. But it doesn't matter if the story doesn't otherwise break the rules.

FFS. This is a step-sibling story within the incest category. Surely the age difference is a fundamental premise of the story, underlying every single scene? This fine tuning of "the clear white line" is one of the more absurd underage threads I've seen in a very long while.

Edit: I jumped to a conclusion, from the words step-siblings. It's not about that at all, and in terms of the story itself, it's more likely clunky writing without much deliberation at all.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Once again, I am impressed by how many people actually fret whether a rule of Literotica was bent or broken rather than whether the story crossed some specific red line of theirs.

I know you're invested in this vision of yourself as the one courageous soul fighting Literotica's tyrannical overlords amidst a horde of brainwashed sheeple.

But people wanting to understand how rules on Literotica are applied doesn't mean we endorse those rules, it just means we want to know how the rules work. It's hard to give useful answers when newbies ask "can I post X here?" if we don't know what Laurel's rules are on X.

Stockholm is such a lovely city.

Fun fact: the diagnosis of "Stockholm syndrome" was invented by a police psychiatrist who botched a hostage negotiation, nearly got the hostages killed, and then sought to discredit their criticism of his incompetence.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Are you applying the principle to the story, or to AlinaX's post?

To Alina's OP here.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

FFS. This is a step-sibling story within the incest category.

No, it isn't.

And the age is only mentioned once, almost in passing, as a way of laying out the characters.

 

[AlinaX]

Running here to start a thread just smacks of looking for attention

~ (flutters eyelashes) ~

 

[OddLove]

I've read it. No issue

Clean separation between anything questionable

Sister being bitchey due to some scifi type thing.

Care to share a link to the story since you've claimed to have read it and AlinaX won't share it?

 

[ElectricBlue]

No, it isn't.

And the age is only mentioned once, almost in passing, as a way of laying out the characters.

Ah, okay. Storm in a teacup, then, jumping to conclusions. The usual implication of step-siblings in a story on Lit is incest, where the ages become fundamental, as does the familial relationship.

 

[HordHolm]

My reaction was "whatever a 19-year-old girl might get up to." I didn't jump immediately to it being sexual.

Ok, so I see the problem.

"Doing whatever" - yes, this is unlimited and can refer to anything: making the tea, darning socks, hosting a seminar on the formation of terminal morraines.

"Doing the whatever" - the addition of the definite article changes the unlimited 'whatever' to something specific. The noun that follows 'the' must be a specific action (because the continuous 'doing' preceded 'the', indicating that an action is taking place), but 'whatever' is an unlimited word, it has no specific, limited meaning. So in this phrase it is either misused, or is being used as a substitute for another word. And in the context of this thread, what specific act might be substituted for the unlimited word 'whatever'? Most English speakers reading this would, in this context, understand it to be a substitute for the name of a sexual act. And this is the understanding that pretty much everyone has been working off.

 

[OddLove]

AlinaX and Five_Inch_Heels still refusing to share a link to this story is exactly why the story doesn't exist.

It'd be nice to be proven wrong, and it would take about three seconds to prove me wrong, but I don't think it will happen.

I think they'll either keep ignoring me, or make up and excuse for why it would be wrong to share the story they're discussing.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

As stated, posting a story link openly when the author isn't here ain't gonna happen.

 

[OddLove]

As stated, posting a story link openly when the author isn't here ain't gonna happen.

There's the excuse I was referring too. The story isn't real. The discussion could be had about this without making up a story that doesn't exist.

 

[Djmac1031]

I'm not sure calling her 'mistress' triggers the rule unless there's something more explicit.

Flip the script and make the 16 year old a girl calling her older brother "Master."

Would that trigger the rule?

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Flip the script and make the 16 year old a girl calling her older brother "Master."

Would that trigger the rule?

Nope.

 

[OddLove]

Nope.

Yes huh

And that's why if the story AlinaX and Heels were pretending to have read was real, it wouldn't have made it to publish.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Yes huh

You probably find Star Wars very transgressive, then.

 

[Britva415]

No, it isn't.

And the age is only mentioned once, almost in passing, as a way of laying out the characters.

I don't think it matters how often the age is mentioned. They're either of age or they aren't.

 

[ElectricBlue]

There's the excuse I was referring too. The story isn't real. The discussion could be had about this without making up a story that doesn't exist.

It is in fact an actual story. But I'm not going to link it here, either, as it doesn't warrant this much attention.

 

[SimonDoom]

Can somebody quote the applicable passages so we can make an informed analysis?

 

[Bamagan]

Can somebody quote the applicable passages so we can make an informed analysis?

Oh, please. If there's one thing the internet is not for, it's informed analysis.

 

[OddLove]

It is in fact an actual story. But I'm not going to link it here, either, as it doesn't warrant this much attention.

That's pretty arrogant to make that call for everyone else.

You, Heels, and Alina all read the story and discussed it's material in this thread, but you've determined it's 'Unworthy' of other people's attention?

That's nonsensical.

 

[SimonDoom]

Oh, please. If there's one thing the internet is not for, it's informed analysis.

Yeah, but they've banned the titty GIFs here. I thought we could try something new.

 

[ElectricBlue]

That's pretty arrogant to make that call for everyone else.

You, Heels, and Alina all read the story and discussed it's material in this thread, but you've determined it's 'Unworthy' of other people's attention?

That's nonsensical.

You've said the story didn't exist, so I rebutted that.