(OOC) The Marvel Adventures: Ghosts of the Past
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If you're not playing Harry, I'll just keep the name Green Goblin for Norman then. Gambit's cool. And Nite, you can play both Beast and Vision if you want. The new thread should be along after a bit.
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I'll do a brief history and timeline in the new thread. Also, if no one is playing Harry, I'll just play him along with his dad. He'll be a friend at first, then gradually back off, eventually becoming a supervillain.
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I have a question/suggestion
If up until now, the metahuman threat has been negligible, how is SHEILD coping? i don’t want to make a fuss, but wouldn’t they be geared towards the possibility of a small scale incident and have little funding? They hardly sound like an appropriate counter measure to such an explosion of metahumans.
as far as I’m concerned, reality be dammed, so if you want to ignore that last statement of mine, feel free, but if you want to throw in something about that, you could have STRIKE come in to lend a hand (the outbreak, although wide spread, is localized to the city as far as potency is concerned, so they would have no internal threat to deal with). and if you want Xavier and magneto to be a part of this, they aren’t really Xavier and magneto if they just got their powers, then they could be a part of STRIKE, sent in to assist, but magneto eventually goes rouge (as he always does) and Xavier realizes the threat that he poses, but STRIKE orders him back, in order to stay and help against magneto he resigns his commission and starts the institute, putting a friendly face on the metahumans, much to the annoyance of SHEILD, who what them gone.
But that’s just a thought.
If up until now, the metahuman threat has been negligible, how is SHEILD coping? i don’t want to make a fuss, but wouldn’t they be geared towards the possibility of a small scale incident and have little funding? They hardly sound like an appropriate counter measure to such an explosion of metahumans.
as far as I’m concerned, reality be dammed, so if you want to ignore that last statement of mine, feel free, but if you want to throw in something about that, you could have STRIKE come in to lend a hand (the outbreak, although wide spread, is localized to the city as far as potency is concerned, so they would have no internal threat to deal with). and if you want Xavier and magneto to be a part of this, they aren’t really Xavier and magneto if they just got their powers, then they could be a part of STRIKE, sent in to assist, but magneto eventually goes rouge (as he always does) and Xavier realizes the threat that he poses, but STRIKE orders him back, in order to stay and help against magneto he resigns his commission and starts the institute, putting a friendly face on the metahumans, much to the annoyance of SHEILD, who what them gone.
But that’s just a thought.
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You didn't read all of what I said -- I said I was scrapping the serum idea. I am bringing Mutants back. Xavier discovered his powers as a young man. See, there are two main kinds of people with powers -- Mutants and Metahumans. A Metahuman is one who's DNA has been altered. A Mutant is one who gained their powers through natural human evolution, or more precisely, the addition of the X-Gene to their DNA, which 0.05% of all humans are born with. The percentage gets higher if one is descended from holders of the X-Gene, and if both the mother and father are Mutants, there is a 97% chance any offspring will also be Mutants.
As for S.H.I.E.L.D., it started back during WWII, and was responsible for Captain America and the first Metahumans, or so it is in this world. They are also the ones who located the X-Gene in Mutants. They have been the United States Government's lead agency in all matters related to Mutants and Metahumans since WWII, so they are well-funded, especially with all the second and third generations of Mutants popping up, as well as more Metahumans that ever. Once the X-Men and Avengers join up, S.H.I.E.L.D.'s budget will triple.
As for S.H.I.E.L.D., it started back during WWII, and was responsible for Captain America and the first Metahumans, or so it is in this world. They are also the ones who located the X-Gene in Mutants. They have been the United States Government's lead agency in all matters related to Mutants and Metahumans since WWII, so they are well-funded, especially with all the second and third generations of Mutants popping up, as well as more Metahumans that ever. Once the X-Men and Avengers join up, S.H.I.E.L.D.'s budget will triple.
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Sorry all, I'm too tired to finish the stuff for the new thread tonight. Things kept distracting me today, so I didn;t get it all done. I'll try my best to get it up tomorrow.
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I dont want to sound twatty or pedantic, but i would like to point one thing out.
Metahuman is Originally a DC comics term, for anyone with powers.
For Marvel, A mutant is someone born with powers, Someone whom gains their powers later in life is a MUTATE.
Eg. Spiderman is a MUTATE. Wolverine is a MUTANT MUTATE, And XAVIER is a MUTANT.
Its only recently that Marvel, going against the wishes of several authors, including stan lee and myself, bought the Term METAHUMAN so that they could use it, as well as DC.
Sorry, but it still agrravates me, comes from years of reading and writing comics.
Metahuman is Originally a DC comics term, for anyone with powers.
For Marvel, A mutant is someone born with powers, Someone whom gains their powers later in life is a MUTATE.
Eg. Spiderman is a MUTATE. Wolverine is a MUTANT MUTATE, And XAVIER is a MUTANT.
Its only recently that Marvel, going against the wishes of several authors, including stan lee and myself, bought the Term METAHUMAN so that they could use it, as well as DC.
Sorry, but it still agrravates me, comes from years of reading and writing comics.
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You wrote comics? And I know such people are called Mutates, but I like metahumans better as a name, so I chose that.
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oh sorry, i did read it, i just misunderstood, i thought you were thinking of axing the serum angle (much to my dismay, favorate part of the story for me), i didnt realise that you had made the discision to yet
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You mean the serum idea was your favorite part of the story?
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yup, in my opinion thats what made it more than just a marvel thread, it drasticaly altered the entire mechanics of the universe, as well as getting rid of the rather plothole-ish mutant gene (it is in no way compliant with the way evolution works, so every time i think about them my brain hurts)
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Ahs. Well, we didn't get any female attention with this angle, lol. Here's some info from the Wiki page for mutants:
A mutant within the Marvel comic books, particularly those of the X-Men mythos, is an individual who possesses a genetic trait called an X-gene that allows them to naturally develop superhuman powers and abilities. Mutants are members of the subspecies Homo sapiens superior, an evolutionary progeny of Homo sapiens, and are considered the next stage in human evolution.
Description
A mutant is a person who is a member of a genetic offshoot of humanity, often described as a subspecies called Homo sapien superior (sometimes inaccurately referred to as a separate species). All mutants have a genetic mutation called an X-gene that causes their bodies to develop abilities that regular humans cannot. The majority of mutants develop these abilities, which vary from person to person, upon puberty, though there are some mutants who display powers and/or physical mutations from birth. Some mutants even display abilities from within the womb and posthumously, like Professor Charles Xavier and Jean Grey, respectively.
Mutant powers vary seemingly without limit. Examples of powers shared by many individuals include telepathy, telekinesis, flight, the ability to project energy, accelerated healing, enhanced physical strength, agility and senses, all to variable limits. Mutation can also often entail a minor to radical alteration in physical appearance from the human norm - wings, gills, a tail, fur, altered skin color, etc.
Most mutant powers manifest during puberty. There are notable examples of mutants who are born with their powers, however, like Nightcrawler.
Mutant powers can grow and increase as the mutant grows and develops. Some powers remain latent until activated by severe stress, or remain unnoticed throughout the person's lifetime, while others are apparent immediately from birth. Some individuals have a secondary mutation which activates in adulthood. For some mutants, several years of self-discipline are needed before they can control their powers, while others never gain full control of their powers.
Mutants may be born to human or mutant parents, though the odds of a mutant birth are much better for the latter. Likewise, it is rare but possible for mutant parents to have human children, termed "baseline" by characters within the Marvel Universe. Some baseline humans are genetically predisposed towards having mutant descendants such as the Guthrie family (see Cannonball, Husk, and Icarus). Mutant children born to mutant parent(s) will not necessarily have the same power(s) as their parent(s), nor will they necessarily have the same power(s) as any mutant siblings they may have; however, examples of children with the same power(s) as their parents and/or siblings are not uncommon.
Secondary mutations
Main article: Secondary mutation
Recently within the Marvel Universe, some mutants have undergone seemingly random mutations, granting them new powers outside the realm of their original mutations. Such a phenomenon is called a secondary mutation.
Mutants and disease
Mutants are immune to the AIDS virus as revealed in an issue of Uncanny X-Men in which the character Archangel discussed he did not need an HIV test due to his status as a mutant. Before its elimination, mutants were particularly susceptible to the Legacy Virus. Mutants are also born with a natural immunity against certain other genetic infections like Phalanx and Sublime, and a specific brainwave pattern that can be detected by certain means, such as the Cerebro device.
Mutant-like individuals
Within the Marvel Universe, there exist some people who also display superpowers yet are not mutants because they lack an X-gene.
Mutates
The term "mutant" in the Marvel Universe does not apply to those whose DNA has been mutated by an external force; in such case, those individuals are called mutates, an abbreviation of "mutated human." The genetic material of mutates has been altered by an outside stimuli such as radiation, toxic shock, chemical agents, or energy. Spider-Man, who was not born a mutant, but was granted superhuman powers by a radioactive spider, is a popular example of a mutate.
Some mutates have been altered by magic, such as Juggernaut. These individuals were given the name magic-based mutates as of Civil War: Battle Damage Report.
Following the events of House of M many mutants lose their powers - or, more specifically, their X-genes - and become physically human. In Son of M, several ex-mutants are exposed to the mutagenic Terrigen Mist, in some cases restoring their powers in uncontrollable forms but in others, such as Quicksilver's, granting entirely new powers. All, however, are now technically mutates, not mutants.
Homo superior
The supervillain Vargas was born with superpowers yet lacks an X-gene. He claims to be a representative of an entirely new species, the "true" Homo superior. His claim may be authentic given the principle of genetic drift.
The Celestials
One million years ago, an alien race called the Celestials came to Earth and performed genetic experiments on proto-humanity, incorporating and altering DNA in the genetic code of the early species of the genus Homo to allow future generations to gain superpowers, making the Celestials the source of all mutants.
The first mutants
The first recorded mutant on Earth is Selene Gallio (active as early as the Hyborian Age); as her particular mutant powers grant her immortality, however, she may not necessarily be the first mutant. It is also possible that she has lied about her age, as she has about much else. She was considered a de facto member of the Externals, a defunct group of ancient immortal mutants. Apocalypse, born in the 30th century BCE, is often referred to as the first mutant. Gateway is another noteworthy ancient mutant.
Some of the first mutants were honored as gods, like Selene herself.
Post-World War II
Very few people know about mutants before the latter half of the twentieth century. Given that mutants were an unknown population until after the Second World War, many, if not the vast majority of mutants apparently hid their powers. The general public did know about mutates, however, like Captain America. The American military knew of Wolverine, but they were unaware that he was something categorically different from other supersoldiers.
Prejudice against mutants
It is unclear within the Marvel Universe when, exactly, mutants were exposed to the world. Activities of some superheroes and supervillians may have been what notified the general public about the existence of mutants.
Many people harbor prejudicial attitudes about mutant people. They do so for a variety of reasons, including bigotry and xenophobia (particularly directed at mutants with nonstandard appearances), jealousy of their natural superpowers, and fear of being replaced or rendered extinct by the so-called next stage in human evolution. Anti-mutant sentiment often leads to mob violence and the alienation of mutants from society. Mutant Town, for example, is a ghetto-like neighborhood in New York City.
By comparison, most non-mutant superheroes, including mutates, are not affected by such bigotry, at least not to the same degree.
A mutant within the Marvel comic books, particularly those of the X-Men mythos, is an individual who possesses a genetic trait called an X-gene that allows them to naturally develop superhuman powers and abilities. Mutants are members of the subspecies Homo sapiens superior, an evolutionary progeny of Homo sapiens, and are considered the next stage in human evolution.
Description
A mutant is a person who is a member of a genetic offshoot of humanity, often described as a subspecies called Homo sapien superior (sometimes inaccurately referred to as a separate species). All mutants have a genetic mutation called an X-gene that causes their bodies to develop abilities that regular humans cannot. The majority of mutants develop these abilities, which vary from person to person, upon puberty, though there are some mutants who display powers and/or physical mutations from birth. Some mutants even display abilities from within the womb and posthumously, like Professor Charles Xavier and Jean Grey, respectively.
Mutant powers vary seemingly without limit. Examples of powers shared by many individuals include telepathy, telekinesis, flight, the ability to project energy, accelerated healing, enhanced physical strength, agility and senses, all to variable limits. Mutation can also often entail a minor to radical alteration in physical appearance from the human norm - wings, gills, a tail, fur, altered skin color, etc.
Most mutant powers manifest during puberty. There are notable examples of mutants who are born with their powers, however, like Nightcrawler.
Mutant powers can grow and increase as the mutant grows and develops. Some powers remain latent until activated by severe stress, or remain unnoticed throughout the person's lifetime, while others are apparent immediately from birth. Some individuals have a secondary mutation which activates in adulthood. For some mutants, several years of self-discipline are needed before they can control their powers, while others never gain full control of their powers.
Mutants may be born to human or mutant parents, though the odds of a mutant birth are much better for the latter. Likewise, it is rare but possible for mutant parents to have human children, termed "baseline" by characters within the Marvel Universe. Some baseline humans are genetically predisposed towards having mutant descendants such as the Guthrie family (see Cannonball, Husk, and Icarus). Mutant children born to mutant parent(s) will not necessarily have the same power(s) as their parent(s), nor will they necessarily have the same power(s) as any mutant siblings they may have; however, examples of children with the same power(s) as their parents and/or siblings are not uncommon.
Secondary mutations
Main article: Secondary mutation
Recently within the Marvel Universe, some mutants have undergone seemingly random mutations, granting them new powers outside the realm of their original mutations. Such a phenomenon is called a secondary mutation.
Mutants and disease
Mutants are immune to the AIDS virus as revealed in an issue of Uncanny X-Men in which the character Archangel discussed he did not need an HIV test due to his status as a mutant. Before its elimination, mutants were particularly susceptible to the Legacy Virus. Mutants are also born with a natural immunity against certain other genetic infections like Phalanx and Sublime, and a specific brainwave pattern that can be detected by certain means, such as the Cerebro device.
Mutant-like individuals
Within the Marvel Universe, there exist some people who also display superpowers yet are not mutants because they lack an X-gene.
Mutates
The term "mutant" in the Marvel Universe does not apply to those whose DNA has been mutated by an external force; in such case, those individuals are called mutates, an abbreviation of "mutated human." The genetic material of mutates has been altered by an outside stimuli such as radiation, toxic shock, chemical agents, or energy. Spider-Man, who was not born a mutant, but was granted superhuman powers by a radioactive spider, is a popular example of a mutate.
Some mutates have been altered by magic, such as Juggernaut. These individuals were given the name magic-based mutates as of Civil War: Battle Damage Report.
Following the events of House of M many mutants lose their powers - or, more specifically, their X-genes - and become physically human. In Son of M, several ex-mutants are exposed to the mutagenic Terrigen Mist, in some cases restoring their powers in uncontrollable forms but in others, such as Quicksilver's, granting entirely new powers. All, however, are now technically mutates, not mutants.
Homo superior
The supervillain Vargas was born with superpowers yet lacks an X-gene. He claims to be a representative of an entirely new species, the "true" Homo superior. His claim may be authentic given the principle of genetic drift.
The Celestials
One million years ago, an alien race called the Celestials came to Earth and performed genetic experiments on proto-humanity, incorporating and altering DNA in the genetic code of the early species of the genus Homo to allow future generations to gain superpowers, making the Celestials the source of all mutants.
The first mutants
The first recorded mutant on Earth is Selene Gallio (active as early as the Hyborian Age); as her particular mutant powers grant her immortality, however, she may not necessarily be the first mutant. It is also possible that she has lied about her age, as she has about much else. She was considered a de facto member of the Externals, a defunct group of ancient immortal mutants. Apocalypse, born in the 30th century BCE, is often referred to as the first mutant. Gateway is another noteworthy ancient mutant.
Some of the first mutants were honored as gods, like Selene herself.
Post-World War II
Very few people know about mutants before the latter half of the twentieth century. Given that mutants were an unknown population until after the Second World War, many, if not the vast majority of mutants apparently hid their powers. The general public did know about mutates, however, like Captain America. The American military knew of Wolverine, but they were unaware that he was something categorically different from other supersoldiers.
Prejudice against mutants
It is unclear within the Marvel Universe when, exactly, mutants were exposed to the world. Activities of some superheroes and supervillians may have been what notified the general public about the existence of mutants.
Many people harbor prejudicial attitudes about mutant people. They do so for a variety of reasons, including bigotry and xenophobia (particularly directed at mutants with nonstandard appearances), jealousy of their natural superpowers, and fear of being replaced or rendered extinct by the so-called next stage in human evolution. Anti-mutant sentiment often leads to mob violence and the alienation of mutants from society. Mutant Town, for example, is a ghetto-like neighborhood in New York City.
By comparison, most non-mutant superheroes, including mutates, are not affected by such bigotry, at least not to the same degree.
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Don't you live in the UK? I didn't know you were in America before, lol. So, you worked with Stan Lee, eh? Lucky bastard 
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How did you get that gig? Do you have a degree in writing or something? How did you come to work with Stan Lee?
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Lucky bastard
that sums up my thoughts on the matter
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nope i'm a UK boy, but my uncle isn't, and he happens to be the doctor of this marvel artist.
I had sent my uncle some of my comic stuff, and the artist caught sight of it and was impressed, and got my details from my uncle. I got rung up and talked, and i've met stan lee twice now, though only over webcam, as it's two expensive to fly over for me.
Apart from that, i've being freelancing for comics in the Uk and europe for about 3 years now.
I had sent my uncle some of my comic stuff, and the artist caught sight of it and was impressed, and got my details from my uncle. I got rung up and talked, and i've met stan lee twice now, though only over webcam, as it's two expensive to fly over for me.
Apart from that, i've being freelancing for comics in the Uk and europe for about 3 years now.
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Yeah. Man, I'd LOVE to write comic books. I'm considering trying to recruit an artist to be my partner, and we can make comics together. I'd love to get a job with Marvel or something, but I don't even have a highschool diploma. I never made it past 9th grade because I was an idiot and skipped school too much -- I don't even remember most of what I learned. I had to repeat 9th grade twice because of so many absences. A few months after I turned 16, I dropped out and got a job at McDonald's. All I cared about were video games back then -- I blew every paycheck on increasing my collection. Somewhere between ages 18 and 20 my mind finally advanced, and I started to think clearer. Through internet and TV, I learned way more than I ever did in school -- or so I remember. I was an idiot as a teenager, but the last IQ test I took (a few months ago) put me at 135. So, I consider myself a self-educated person. Do I stand a chance as a comic writer?
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Dude, anyone with an imagination good enough to think of the whole serum thing you originally wanted to do, has a chance to be a comic writer.
As for the other but, i know what you mean, i'm crap at drawing, and doing extensive backgrounds for characters (i.e. the origin stories), and i've been after an artist and co-writer to be partners with for years lol.
Apart from the fact that i have a brilliant imagination and love comics, currently i'm at uni doing marine biology (its my back up plan), and want to be a bigtime actor and comic writer.
Maybe when i'm famous, i'll start my ow comic company.
As for the other but, i know what you mean, i'm crap at drawing, and doing extensive backgrounds for characters (i.e. the origin stories), and i've been after an artist and co-writer to be partners with for years lol.
Apart from the fact that i have a brilliant imagination and love comics, currently i'm at uni doing marine biology (its my back up plan), and want to be a bigtime actor and comic writer.
Maybe when i'm famous, i'll start my ow comic company.
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I want to be a famous writer and start my own company, too. Though, I want to do manga-style comics and eventually create my own anime company, converting all my stories into animeted series. Hey, you should move to Florida and we can be partners, lol. Then we can find an artist. So, how did you land your first comic gig, and what exactly did you do for it?
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my first gig was for a small UK comic company known as Drayton Comics, for which i designed and wrote about 150 issues about a young hero named Velocity. I managed to get that simply by sending in a copy of my previous work lol.
As a side point, i'll be pm-ing you jeff (as u don't seem to be on msngr), about a pet project of mine in which i could use some assistance.
As a side point, i'll be pm-ing you jeff (as u don't seem to be on msngr), about a pet project of mine in which i could use some assistance.
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Okay, cool. So, do you ever physically go to your gigs to meet the directors who are paying you, or do you just mail them the work and they mail you a check?
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When you two find yourselves an artist let me know. I might be able to help in the publishing department.
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