Orlando Pulse Massacre 2016

You're kidding, right?! I doubt they'd do such a comparison, & if so, they wouldn't say "damage", but "progress" or something similar... Maybe pay to use the old Arby's "Different is good" line.

Excuse me. I'm addressing a guy who made the connection on this thread. Have you actually bothered to read the thread? I'm trying to pin him down on what he thinks he's belly laughing about.

I liked it better when you and Botany Boy were incoherently (and irrelevantly) railing at each other.
 
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Excuse me. I'm addressing a guy who made the connection on this thread. Have you actually bothered to read the thread? I'm trying to pin him down on what he thinks he's belly laughing about.

You're excused for wasting time & space instead of using PMs.
 
If you don't embrace getting assault weapons out of the hands of civilians, you are part of the problem.

If you do, you are part of the problem. People have enacted background checks & a million other things, & these continue to happen. I walk local streets a lot, & I can't be sure if someone within inches of me has a gun or not. I can't stop them from having one, nor know if they do... So better to be sure I also do.
 
You are possibly the screwiest poster I've read here in some time. Going on ignore.
 
If you do, you are part of the problem. People have enacted background checks & a million other things, & these continue to happen. I walk local streets a lot, & I can't be sure if someone within inches of me has a gun or not. I can't stop them from having one, nor know if they do... So better to be sure I also do.

Total cop out!
 
Complete list of the murder victims
2016 Orlando Pulse Massacre

Stanley Almodovar III, 23 years old

Amanda Alvear, 25 years old

Oscar A Aracena-Montero, 26 years old

Rodolfo Ayala-Ayala, 33 years old

Antonio Davon Brown, 29 years old

Darryl Roman Burt II, 29 years old

Angel L. Candelario-Padro, 28 years old

Juan Chevez-Martinez, 25 years old

Luis Daniel Conde, 39 years old

Cory James Connell, 21 years old

Tevin Eugene Crosby, 25 years old

Deonka Deidra Drayton, 32 years old

Simon Adrian Carrillo Fernandez, 31 years old

Leroy Valentin Fernandez, 25 years old

Mercedez Marisol Flores, 26 years old

Peter O. Gonzalez-Cruz, 22 years old

Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22 years old

Paul Terrell Henry, 41 years old

Frank Hernandez, 27 years old

Miguel Angel Honorato, 30 years old

Javier Jorge-Reyes, 40 years old

Jason Benjamin Josaphat, 19 years old

Eddie Jamoldroy Justice, 30 years old

Anthony Luis Laureanodisla, 25 years old

Christopher Andrew Leinonen, 32 years old

Alejandro Barrios Martinez, 21 years old

Brenda Lee Marquez McCool, 49 years old

Gilberto Ramon Silva Menendez, 25 years old

Kimberly Morris, 37 years old

Akyra Monet Murray, 18 years old

Luis Omar Ocasio-Capo, 20 years old

Geraldo A. Ortiz-Jimenez, 25 years old

Eric Ivan Ortiz-Rivera, 36 years old

Joel Rayon Paniagua, 32 years old

Jean Carlos Mendez Perez, 35 years old

Enrique L. Rios, Jr., 25 years old

Jean C. Nives Rodriguez, 27 years old

Xavier Emmanuel Serrano Rosado, 35 years old

Christopher Joseph Sanfeliz, 24 years old

Yilmary Rodriguez Solivan, 24 years old

Edward Sotomayor Jr., 34 years old

Shane Evan Tomlinson, 33 years old

Martin Benitez Torres, 33 years old

Jonathan Antonio Camuy Vega, 24 years old

Juan P. Rivera Velazquez, 37 years old

Luis S. Vielma, 22 years old

Franky Jimmy Dejesus Velazquez, 50 years old

Luis Daniel Wilson-Leon, 37 years old

Jerald Arthur Wright, 31 years old
 
Hope the latest list is complete in that none of those now in hospital die.
 
Victims of the Orlando Pulse Massacre

Edward Sotomayor Jr., 34 years old

Stanley Almodovar III, 23 years old

Luis Omar Ocasio-Capo, 20 years old

Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22 years old

Eric Ivan Ortiz-Rivera, 36 years old

Peter O. Gonzalez-Cruz, 22 years old

Luis S. Vielma, 22 years old

Kimberly Morris, 37 years old

Eddie Jamoldroy Justice, 30 years old

Darryl Roman Burt II, 29 years old

Deonka Deidra Drayton, 32 years old

Alejandro Barrios Martinez, 21 years old

Anthony Luis Laureanodisla, 25 years old

Jean Carlos Mendez Perez, 35 years old

Franky Jimmy Dejesus Velazquez, 50 years old

Amanda Alvear, 25 years old

Martin Benitez Torres, 33 years old

Luis Daniel Wilson-Leon, 37 years old

Mercedez Marisol Flores, 26 years old

Xavier Emmanuel Serrano Rosado, 35 years old

Gilberto Ramon Silva Menendez, 25 years old

Simon Adrian Carrillo Fernandez, 31 years old

Oscar A Aracena-Montero, 26 years old

Enrique L. Rios, Jr., 25 years old

Miguel Angel Honorato, 30 years old

Javier Jorge-Reyes, 40 years old

Joel Rayon Paniagua, 32 years old

Jason Benjamin Josaphat, 19 years old

Cory James Connell, 21 years old

Juan P. Rivera Velazquez, 37 years old

Luis Daniel Conde, 39 years old

Shane Evan Tomlinson, 33 years old

Juan Chevez-Martinez, 25 years old

Jerald Arthur Wright, 31 years old

Leroy Valentin Fernandez, 25 years old

Tevin Eugene Crosby, 25 years old

http://www.cityoforlando.net/blog/victims/

There will be more names added, as the victims are identified and when the relatives of the victims are informed.


Thank you for posting the victims. This is very decent of you.

I mean that sincerely.
 
And I trust you don't belong to the NRA, because if you do, you are just being tongue in cheek disingenuous here. I didn't say it would benefit the NRA. I hope to hell it doesn't. I'm fingering the NRA as the major barrier to invoking reason here and taking assault weapons out of the hands of anyone but the Army--overseas.

If you don't embrace getting assault weapons out of the hands of civilians, you are part of the problem. Your "guns don't kill people; people do" argument is a bunch of shit. People kill lots more people by having access to assault weapons than if they didn't. That's what's relevant and the stonewalling of this with silly little sayings like you give is disgusting.

This is a very sensitive issue, and I feel uncomfortable talking about it. We used to wait awhile before getting into these discussions, and focus on the tragedy and the victims. But,trustfully, you didn't really respond to my point about this apparent double standard of absolving Islam while demonizing the NRA. And the very worst part of it all is the more they bring up this issue of gun control. the more people buy guns. That's what got me into gun ownership. My state enacted a massive gun control project. You couldn't get near a gun shop for six months. Terrible.
 
This is a very sensitive issue, and I feel uncomfortable talking about it. We used to wait awhile before getting into these discussions, and focus on the tragedy and the victims. But,trustfully, you didn't really respond to my point about this apparent double standard of absolving Islam while demonizing the NRA. -

That's because sr71's agenda is simply to ban guns. The victims of this tragedy are nothing more than tools for him to soapbox his views.

Perhaps if we had a gun ban, say, similar to those in France or Norway, then criminals and terrorists could not obtain them. Nothing bad ever happens in places like France or Norway, right?
 
WATCH: House Dems erupt in righteous anger after ‘moment of silence’ for Orlando victims

After Ryan banged the gavel to mark the end of the moment of silence, many Democrats began shouting “Where’s the bill?” and “No leadership!”

Shortly after, Ryan yielded the floor to South Carolina Democratic Rep. James Clyburn, who emphasized the need for Congress to move forward on three pieces of legislation that are designed to address gun violence in the United States. Ryan showed no willingness to commit to considering any such legislation and angry boos subsequently filled the chamber.

Are we seeing the end of the Republican dominated House?
 
It's hard to admit that the only reason things like this happen is that we are an evil people. It's hard to look in the mirror and point the finger , but it's true. Banning things is utterly meaningless until we address our sickness as a people. Twisting God's plan for us. Sowing hatred and self-ism. It's not a matter of banning weapons, it's addressing the sick hearts and minds of those who would use these weapons against their brothers and sisters. Banning guns doesn't change the fact that we are a sick people. Even without guns there will still be evil and hatred and self-worship. There's nothing wrong with Faith, and Religion and Morality. What's wrong is we who twist and corrupt those good things out of our own self-ism. The evil is not weapons, whatever they may be. Death and destruction starts in our own hearts and minds.
 
It's hard to admit that the only reason things like this happen is that we are an evil people. It's hard to look in the mirror and point the finger , but it's true. Banning things is utterly meaningless until we address our sickness as a people. Twisting God's plan for us. Sowing hatred and self-ism. It's not a matter of banning weapons, it's addressing the sick hearts and minds of those who would use these weapons against their brothers and sisters. Banning guns doesn't change the fact that we are a sick people. Even without guns there will still be evil and hatred and self-worship. There's nothing wrong with Faith, and Religion and Morality. What's wrong is we who twist and corrupt those good things out of our own self-ism. The evil is not weapons, whatever they may be. Death and destruction starts in our own hearts and minds.
Yeah, yeah. It's the American Way to maximize your profits. If gun dealers sell more when there's talk about bans, then they'll start talking about bans.
 
Iran condemns Orlando mass shooting

AhlulBayt News Agency - Iran’s FM spokesman on Monday slammed Orlando shooting which killed and injured more than 100 civilians.

“On the basis of its principled policy of condemning terrorism and its firm determination to thwart menaces of terrorism as an ominous phenomenon, the Islamic Republic of Iran slams the recent terrorist attack in Orlando of the US,” said Foreign Ministry spokesman Hossein Jaberi Ansari.

Not all the Islamic world supports Radical Islamic Terrorism.
 
Islamic Education Center of Houston condemns Orlando shooting / Urges Trump to stop spread hatred

AhlulBayt News Agency - The Islamic Education Center – Houston (IEC-Houston) unequivocally condemns the terrible massacre that occurred in Orlando, Florida. Islam forbids the killing of innocent people, be it by individual, organized criminals or by state sponsored actions.

"We urge everyone, especially our politicians, to restrain from using this event to incite and spread hatred. It is in times like these that we must come together and unite to promote values such as love and kindness, rather than further divide the American nation."

Our deepest sympathies and condolences go out to the families of the victims. In this holy month of Ramadan, we pray for the purification of souls and for peace and justice across the world.

Apparently the reason that you don't hear Muslims condemning Radicals is the American Media ignores these stories, but gives Trump free advertising of his swill.

Note:
Wikipedia says, AhlulBayt News Agency is a part of
Ahlulbayt Television Network is the first and on exclusively English-language Shia Islamic television channel.[1] The channel was launched with much fanfare on Sky in the UK in August 2009 and two months later on the Galaxy 19 platform covering North America from its London headquarters.
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In terms of financial backing Ahlulbayt TV relies on viewers' donations and frequently asks viewers to partner with it "to keep the mission forging ahead" and materialize its stated motto of "bringing the Holy Household into Every Household".
 
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That's because sr71's agenda is simply to ban guns. The victims of this tragedy are nothing more than tools for him to soapbox his views.

Bullshit. I've only mentioned assault weapons. You are engaging in NRA-style brinkmanship. And you are a callous, murderous, pinheaded idiot for doing so.
 
Is it true that the night club had all of its doors locked or chained the night of the shooting
 
Bullshit. I've only mentioned assault weapons. You are engaging in NRA-style brinkmanship. And you are a callous, murderous, pinheaded idiot for doing so.

Your timing couldn't have been better.

JackLuis, SR71 is a perfect example of the prejudice I spoke of.
 
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