"Overcoming Obamacare"

[BotanyBoy]

We don't. We know we are exceptional.

We have always been suspicious of government solutions to economic problems. We know that despite the alleged and really questionable successes of foreign systems, that our private sector medical system is the best in the world, in the absence of government interference.

LMFAO!

Not by any measure out there, other than in the minds of the bat shit fringe RW like yourself, does the US have the best medical care system in the world.....moron.

 

[mark_j]

Yep....since I already have smokin' HC ultra discounted nothing changed for me.

What about ACA is so horrible to deal with?

I'm betting we get a bunch of deflection and buuu shittin'

Well good for you.

For starters they managed to dump the record that I ever signed up through the exchange, so other than my basic account I have, according to them, nothing. No plan, no record that I ever did anything other than create the original account.

Now the kicker is that the company that I picked has all the info and account done. Sent me the cards and was all set, Right?

Wrong.. For whatever reason, (which the exchange can't seem to explain) they sent out a cancellation notice to the insurance company. Yet I have no notification of ANY of this happening until I go in for my annual check up and, wait for it, MY INSURANCE IS INVALID.

SO now I spend 3 hours on the phone between the exchange and their bureaucratic BS and the insurance company getting this mess fixed. So, one, this should never have happened this way. Two, I shouldn't have had to deal with a customer service rep who was doing nothing to help except to give me a huge run around.

So you tell me. You think I got a right to be a little pissed at this disaster?

 

[mark_j]

sql and html? Ok, bro.

What ignorant bullshit.

Picky picky... and it really isn't relevant to the issue anyway..

 

[RobDownSouth]

I understand it only all too well... What I don't understand is how a multimillion dollar system that was supposed to make this all so easy ends up being the most fucked up system I have ever had the displeasure to deal with. On top of that when something DOES go wrong the customer service ends up being the biggest nightmare of bureaucratic horse shit I've ever had the displeasure of having to wade through.

A 12yo with My SQL and some basic HTML could come up with a smoother, safer and less error prone site than the piece of shit they have now and the tax payers wouldn't have been socked for how many hundred million?

Cheer lead all you want. And while I will agree that there are some aspects that are sensible, they could have been dealt with without the monstrous cluster fuck we have now.

I sincerely doubt that anything that crawled out of a woman too stupid to abort your rancid DNA would know jack shit about massively scaled transactions, load balancing, government hardening standards or interfacing to dozens of disparate state-run systems.

In all honestly, your post is the stupidest thing I've read here this month (non-query division).

 

[BotanyBoy]

So you tell me. You think I got a right to be a little pissed at this disaster?

That's it??....you had a clerical error that had to be cleared up?

Well good thing that NEVER happens in the private sector

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/04/spongebobmoviehillbillylol.gif
LMFAO!!

Do you also want the removal of all public US roadways in favor of private toll roads because sometimes traffic jams?

You can be pissed, but I assure you, those happen in all sorts of private bidnizzez all the fucking time too. In fact my gangy has mega bucks and shit hot insurance...I've spent far more than 3 hrs on the phone haggling with them about their buushit fine print and even had to spend money on lawyers to go pull their teeth.

From phone companies to banks and even your local grocery stores, clerical/tech errors happen to all businesses pretty much all the fucking time. It's not something you can really demonize ACA with.....despite your best efforts because partisanship.

 

[mark_j]

I sincerely doubt that anything that crawled out of a woman too stupid to abort your rancid DNA would know jack shit about massively scaled transactions, load balancing, government hardening standards or interfacing to dozens of disparate state-run systems.

In all honestly, your post is the stupidest thing I've read here this month (non-query division).

Blah blah blah blah... and your momma wears combat boots... Fuck off Putz..

 

[mark_j]

That's it??....you had a clerical error that had to be cleared up?

Well good thing that NEVER happens in the private sector

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/04/spongebobmoviehillbillylol.gif
LMFAO!!

Do you also want the removal of all public US roadways in favor of private toll roads because sometimes traffic jams?

You can be pissed, but I assure you, those happen in all sorts of private bidnizzez all the fucking time too. In fact my gangy has mega bucks and shit hot insurance...I've spent far more than 3 hrs on the phone haggling with them about their buushit fine print and even had to spend money on lawyers to go pull their teeth.

From phone companies to banks and even your local grocery stores, clerical/tech errors happen to all businesses pretty much all the fucking time. It's not something you can really demonize ACA with.....despite your best efforts because partisanship.

Yeah and I've got three fucking hours to waste on shit like that all the time... Glad you folks are such men of leisure that you have time to waste on crap like that...

Have at it boys..

You got what you paid for..

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yeah and I've got three fucking hours to waste on shit like that all the time... Glad you folks are such men of leisure that you have time to waste on crap like that...

All the time? You do it daily or something?

It's not leisure and crap...it's getting your HC sorted out, because adult.

Now you can admit, clerical/tech hang ups are a common problem effecting all businesses both private and public.

Or

You can just admit you don't like the republican born Romney care, because Obama sold it to you, and you want to go back to Reagan's version of socialized HC in America.

Have at it boys..

You got what you paid for..

Nah I didn't really pay for years....then when I had to pay it was like 99% subsidized by you...Tricare is the fucking bomb dude, too bad only communist mooches are allowed to have it otherwise you could have bitchin isurance for less than dinner and a movie.

 

[Disgustipated]

Picky picky... and it really isn't relevant to the issue anyway..

You must have had the worst experience ever. Or you don't have any idea about what you're talking about.

 

[Disgustipated]

Yeah and I've got three fucking hours to waste on shit like that all the time... Glad you folks are such men of leisure that you have time to waste on crap like that...

Have at it boys..

You got what you paid for..

You have time to form an opinion you know nothing about yet you have enough time to make a concise and informed opinion about it?

 

[Dumpington]

It's very possible that the Republicans will never have to repeal the Affordable Health Care Act as the U.S. Supreme Court could very likely rule major parts of it as unconstitutional.

Don't think those justices haven't been listening to everything that ObamaCare architect Jonathan Gruber has been saying about all of the lies told to get that thing passed, either!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Poor Mark, he's so bitchy.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Had Republican Mitt Romney not foisted this abomination on his people, there wouldn't have been the impetus or backing to make the rest of us suffer. Or, if you really want to go back a bit, we can thank Newt Gingrich and his paranoia over Hillary back in the day when he outright called for a single-payer system.

Regardless, how forcing people to hand over their money to a private company is in any way constitutional or remotely justifiable is beyond me. The only thing I can come up with is Justice Roberts was either being drunk or was paid off by the insurance companies since they're the only ones benefiting. Everyone else is just pouring money down a black hole, never to be seen again.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Had Republican Mitt Romney not foisted this abomination on his people, there wouldn't have been the impetus or backing to make the rest of us suffer. Or, if you really want to go back a bit, we can thank Newt Gingrich and his paranoia over Hillary back in the day when he outright called for a single-payer system.

Regardless, how forcing people to hand over their money to a private company is in any way constitutional or remotely justifiable is beyond me. The only thing I can come up with is Justice Roberts was either being drunk or was paid off by the insurance companies since they're the only ones benefiting. Everyone else is just pouring money down a black hole, never to be seen again.

So tell us, who SHOULD pay for your health care then?

 

[JohnnySavage]

So tell us, who SHOULD pay for your health care then?

I suspect he's one of those leeches that think his employer should take care of him and mamma; making his employer less competitive.

Good thing I'm not the dictator around here. I'd make it illegal for a company to offer health care. Businesses are in business to make money, not coddle the malingerers!

 

[NeverEndingMe]

its nice to see team Jackass Mentally defective retarded Rob and obama terrorist are demanding more welfare


at lease these defectives are consistent


SOCIALISM because having a real job is too hard

 

[NeverEndingMe]

So tell us, who SHOULD pay for your health care then?

you should pay for your own fucking health care!

also, how the fuck does someone like obama get to decide what coverage we need? obama is a mental defective and has never had a job in his welfare life

 

[someoneyouknow]

So tell us, who SHOULD pay for your health care then?

As NEE said, how about me? If I have the money to pay for my medical expenses, why should I be forced to hand over my money to a private company who isn't going to pay for my expenses anyway?

@JS: the only leeches are people who think they should be absolved of personal responsibility for themselves. People such as the obese, smokers, alcoholics and drug users want to be free to live their lives as they wish while at the same time want everyone else to pick up the tab for them.

Which is exactly what Obamneycare does. No one has to do anything because someone else gets the tab. If the idea was to lower medical costs and make us healthier, it's a miserable failure because it does not do anything to solve the problems in the first place.

As is typical in this country, we wait until the problem happens then throw money at it thinking we can fix things whereas had we prevented the problem in the first place, we wouldn't be pouring money down a black hole.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

As NEE said, how about me? If I have the money to pay for my medical expenses, why should I be forced to hand over my money to a private company who isn't going to pay for my expenses anyway?

@JS: the only leeches are people who think they should be absolved of personal responsibility for themselves. People such as the obese, smokers, alcoholics and drug users want to be free to live their lives as they wish while at the same time want everyone else to pick up the tab for them.

Which is exactly what Obamneycare does. No one has to do anything because someone else gets the tab. If the idea was to lower medical costs and make us healthier, it's a miserable failure because it does not do anything to solve the problems in the first place.

As is typical in this country, we wait until the problem happens then throw money at it thinking we can fix things whereas had we prevented the problem in the first place, we wouldn't be pouring money down a black hole.

Okay, I'll play!

Let's presume you are very wealthy, and can "afford to pay for your own health care".

You don't get the negotiated rate that most insurance companies have with hospitals, so you're one of those poor saps that are forced to pay full retail when you're hospitalized. But that's okay, because Murica Fuck Yeah! right?

So anyway, you're oh-so-healthy. Then one night, you're driving your family home from church when a guy with ten DUIs (and no auto insurance, natch) smashes into your car.

Got enough to pay for your entire family's hospitalization? I hope so!

So they cut you open and sew you up, and you live happily ever after, right?

Hmmm......something odd came back on the lab test, oh dear, you've got a nasty little cancer in your colon. Sucks to be you, but you're wealthy and can afford treatment, right?

It's only about $120,000. Pocket change for a wealthy scion of society such as yourself! Right?

What's that you say? You don't have enough in current savings to afford chemo!

Whatever will you dooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Tell us!!


Truth be told, I've had this discussion before with Ishmael's sole surviving son VatAss. He's wealthier than anyone on this board, dontcha know. He makes six figures....six!...per year! He whined about the prohibitive cost about insuring his children (they're HEALTHY, dammit!) and opted to not insure them at all until #ThatNegarPresident forced him to do so.


Anyway, I understand where you're coming from, I'm just wondering if you have the ability to financially handle a catastrophic illness or injury. Most people don't have that ability. Maybe you do.

I'm of the opinion that a very select subset of America could benefit from having some sort of catastrophic insurance, those who can afford to handle most health-related issues (as opposed to, say, Julybaby04 who would prefer to roll the dice on her 6 children and use the savings to pay for her trip to Disney World each year).

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Jesus, you are fucking piece of welfare shit.


get a fucking job and pay your own way in life. get your dirty grubby hand out of your neighbors pocket

fucking asshole

Okay, I'll play!

Let's presume you are very wealthy, and can "afford to pay for your own health care".

You don't get the negotiated rate that most insurance companies have with hospitals, so you're one of those poor saps that are forced to pay full retail when you're hospitalized. But that's okay, because Murica Fuck Yeah! right?

So anyway, you're oh-so-healthy. Then one night, you're driving your family home from church when a guy with ten DUIs (and no auto insurance, natch) smashes into your car.

Got enough to pay for your entire family's hospitalization? I hope so!

So they cut you open and sew you up, and you live happily ever after, right?

Hmmm......something odd came back on the lab test, oh dear, you've got a nasty little cancer in your colon. Sucks to be you, but you're wealthy and can afford treatment, right?

It's only about $120,000. Pocket change for a wealthy scion of society such as yourself! Right?

What's that you say? You don't have enough in current savings to afford chemo!

Whatever will you dooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Tell us!!


Truth be told, I've had this discussion before with Ishmael's sole surviving son VatAss. He's wealthier than anyone on this board, dontcha know. He makes six figures....six!...per year! He whined about the prohibitive cost about insuring his children (they're HEALTHY, dammit!) and opted to not insure them at all until #ThatNegarPresident forced him to do so.


Anyway, I understand where you're coming from, I'm just wondering if you have the ability to financially handle a catastrophic illness or injury. Most people don't have that ability. Maybe you do.

I'm of the opinion that a very select subset of America could benefit from having some sort of catastrophic insurance, those who can afford to handle most health-related issues (as opposed to, say, Julybaby04 who would prefer to roll the dice on her 6 children and use the savings to pay for her trip to Disney World each year).

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Please no more fiction KO, the employer mandate hasn't kicked in yet. Obama knows his healthcare plan is going to bring harm to the American people and is too cowardly to put it into effect when the 2016 election opportunities for his party are at stake.

KingofAssRetards is a total pile of pig shit...he's almost as bad as Rob. I can't believe what rob just posted above this post.

What's wrong with these obama people? We need to put these mental defectives in camps

 

[someoneyouknow]

Okay, I'll play!

Let's presume you are very wealthy, and can "afford to pay for your own health care".

You don't get the negotiated rate that most insurance companies have with hospitals, so you're one of those poor saps that are forced to pay full retail when you're hospitalized. But that's okay, because Murica Fuck Yeah! right?

So anyway, you're oh-so-healthy. Then one night, you're driving your family home from church when a guy with ten DUIs (and no auto insurance, natch) smashes into your car.

Got enough to pay for your entire family's hospitalization? I hope so!

So they cut you open and sew you up, and you live happily ever after, right?

Hmmm......something odd came back on the lab test, oh dear, you've got a nasty little cancer in your colon. Sucks to be you, but you're wealthy and can afford treatment, right?

It's only about $120,000. Pocket change for a wealthy scion of society such as yourself! Right?

What's that you say? You don't have enough in current savings to afford chemo!

Whatever will you dooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Tell us!!


Truth be told, I've had this discussion before with Ishmael's sole surviving son VatAss. He's wealthier than anyone on this board, dontcha know. He makes six figures....six!...per year! He whined about the prohibitive cost about insuring his children (they're HEALTHY, dammit!) and opted to not insure them at all until #ThatNegarPresident forced him to do so.


Anyway, I understand where you're coming from, I'm just wondering if you have the ability to financially handle a catastrophic illness or injury. Most people don't have that ability. Maybe you do.

I'm of the opinion that a very select subset of America could benefit from having some sort of catastrophic insurance, those who can afford to handle most health-related issues (as opposed to, say, Julybaby04 who would prefer to roll the dice on her 6 children and use the savings to pay for her trip to Disney World each year).

I have enough money to pay what you're commenting on and I'm not (yet) a millionaire. So yes, I will pay for my own healthcare, especially if I'm not pouring thousands of dollars every year down the drain. See how that works? I keep my money and use it to pay my own way.

Also, hospitals usually give discounts for people paying in cash because they don't have to do as much paperwork or wait to get paid by the insurance company's who drag their feet.

So there's the answer to your question. I can pay my own way and get a discount in the process. Problem solved.

 

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[Disgustipated]

Course that doesn't solve Rob's problem of not being able to pay for his cosmetic surgeries and his other "health care" needs. If he had a job and your good sense he probably could.

You're obese and live off government aid.