elsol said:You forgot hubris in this.
Only writers have the hubris to believe that like God, we too, can create.
ElSol
ps. Then again that could just be me.
no, that's me too.
i didn't expect this thread to still be going.
and with such venom, too.
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elsol said:You forgot hubris in this.
Only writers have the hubris to believe that like God, we too, can create.
ElSol
ps. Then again that could just be me.
Yes, Authors have good concentration spans. You'll find we mull things over slowly, discuss things from all angles, before descending intoMs_Girl23 said:no, that's me too.
i didn't expect this thread to still be going.
and with such venom, too.
Tongue lasher said:Take no notice of Cloudy. She lost her argument on that other thread and threw her toys out of the pram referring to a similar discussion on a previous thread.
I looked there and I saw she lost first time too. In her 'closing' statement she said words to the effect that she no longer gave a shit about the points she made. Strange, then, to try again.
You just made a strong case reminding her of what she said previously, for those who never knew, and she had no answer other than snide comments. Leave her to stew.
Eating_Scarlett said:Your dirty, filthy imagination.
Originally posted by Sub Joe
My wife read one of my stories and then hit me.
dr_mabeuse said:Writers are losers only in the sense that they want more than what other people want: more experience, more depth, more understanding. In my experience, writers are often driven and discontented. They’re not satisfied with getting laid and then rolling over and turning on the TV or getting up and making something to eat and forgetting about it. They pick up the experience and turn it over in their minds, trying to make sense and squeeze some meaning out of it. They relive it and examine it and try and put it into words. They don’t let things go.
They see things that other people ignore and remember things that other people forget. They feel things deeply and wonder about them, and they take these feelings and try to nail them down in words so they can make some sort of sense out of them, or at least make something beautiful. They’re always pushing and making trouble, going where most people never even think to go. The good ones live on the edge and they often end up paying for it.
I don’t know if porn writers have more or less sex than everyone else, but if they’re any good as writers, their sexual experiences are much deeper and richer than most people’s, and they go places most non-writers don’t even dream about.
Writers are the explorers and pioneers in the wilderness of human experience. They’re out there taking chances and blazing trails while the rest of the world lives safe behind the stockades and can’t understand why anyone would want to venture out there. Maybe this seems kind of grandiose to say about writers of smut, but it’s true of any writer worth his or her salt, no matter what genre they work in. The job of the writer is to make the world new for you, to hunt down and bring back to that stockade something you've never seen before.
So if you have to measure your sexual prowess in frequency and numbers, you’re missing the point entirely.
---dr.M.
Eating_Scarlett said:
I totally disagree with most of what you just wrote, but that's beside the point. In my initial post, I wasn't talking about professional writers but more specifically the people who write Erotica on THIS forum.
Eating_Scarlett said:That's a rather impressive and utterly subjective post.
What are you basing all this on? Observations of writers? How many writers do you know? And how many have you asked about what goes on in their head, and why they write what they write?
"I don’t know if porn writers have more or less sex than everyone else, but if they’re any good as writers, their sexual experiences are much deeper and richer than most people’s, and they go places most non-writers don’t even dream about."
-- Why would their sexual experiences be 'much deeper and richer than most people's'? Just because they have the ability to articulate themselves? Just because they write it down? Why on Earth would their sexual experiences be deeper just because they're good writers?
I totally disagree with most of what you just wrote, but that's beside the point. In my initial post, I wasn't talking about professional writers but more specifically the people who write Erotica on THIS forum.
gauchecritic said:Those who can, do. Those who can't have to practice a lot.
impressive said:Those who can, do. Those who can't (yet), try. Those who won't, just sit back and call 'em all losers.

Eating_Scarlett said:That's a rather impressive and utterly subjective post.
What are you basing all this on? Observations of writers? How many writers do you know? And how many have you asked about what goes on in their head, and why they write what they write?
"I don’t know if porn writers have more or less sex than everyone else, but if they’re any good as writers, their sexual experiences are much deeper and richer than most people’s, and they go places most non-writers don’t even dream about."
-- Why would their sexual experiences be 'much deeper and richer than most people's'? Just because they have the ability to articulate themselves? Just because they write it down? Why on Earth would their sexual experiences be deeper just because they're good writers?
I totally disagree with most of what you just wrote, but that's beside the point. In my initial post, I wasn't talking about professional writers but more specifically the people who write Erotica on THIS forum.
Black Tulip said:You still haven't explained why you'd call us losers. What's the point?
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dr_mabeuse said:Well, I write erotica on this forum, and I was talking mostly about myself, and my own personal experience is that since I started writing porn, I’ve become much more sensitive and imaginative about what goes on in sex. I’ve had to pick up my rather vague and confused feelings about it and examine them and describe them to myself and follow them into places where I think most non-writers don’t bother to go.
I mean, if you’re getting laid every night, why even think about it? You take all that stuff for granted and don’t even pay attention to what you’re doing or what it means, and you know what they say about the unexamined life.
I’ve had to learn to put myself in the mind of a woman or a man who’s not me, and try and tease apart their feelings and sensation and likes and dislikes. Sometimes I think I get it and sometimes maybe I fall short, but it’s something I never would have done had I not been trying to write about and understand sex. If paying attention to something and understanding it makes you better at it, than I have to think that its made me better at sex: more perceptive, more sensitive, and more imaginative. It’s certainly opened my eyes to the eroticism that’s all around us, in everything from the weather to the way a woman selects her clothes to how the light falls on a street outside. The world’s just dripping with eroticism, and it’s something I never would have seen had I not started writing about it.
As for writers, I know a few, and I know the people on this board, who are far more open and sophisticated and articulate about sexual matters than most people you’ll meet. I think that’s not just because this is a sex site, but because they’re writers and they’ve learned how to analyze things and describe them.
I don’t know about their sex lives and I don’t really care, but you already knew that was a dumb-ass comment when you first made it anyhow, didn't you? At least I hope you did, otherwise you’re really not worth talking to.
And if you didn't, then let me say right now that I don’t want to get out the rulers and start measuring dick size either, because that’s what comes next, isn’t it?
---dr.M.
Eating_Scarlett said:Its what I do.


Lady Lay said:It takes pure genius to stack 5 well chosen words back to back on a written page and “make the earth move under the seat” of someone more than 2000 miles away.
"The world’s just dripping with eroticism, and it’s something I never would have seen had I not started writing about it." Thank you dr M and all you wonderful Lit authors for your well chosen and delightful words...Lady Lay![]()

bloodsimple said:There are a lot of intelligent and erudite people on Lit.
Why are you wasting time attempting to gainsay such a stupid opinion as the one expressed by Scarlett?
This isn't some clever theory fashioned through skilled analysis and careful weighing of evidence. It's a careless and poorly-argued rant by someone whose opinion is no more important than anyone else's. Why are all you authors seeking to justify yourselves to this person?
She thinks the writers are losers. So fucking what? She's posted over 5,000 times, so clearly she relishes the company of losers.
Leave this thread to wither on the vine like the circular waste of space it is.
bloodsimple said:
Why are you wasting time attempting to gainsay such a stupid opinion as the one expressed by Scarlett?
elsol said:I mean Dr_M is actually making writing smut sound noble.
impressive said:
Ah, fuck!![]()
Belegon said:Who? Me? please? When? Where?
oh, but I am not so sure I qualify. I mean, I write porn here. That means I don't have sex. Hmmm. I better tell the wife her imagination has obviously been working overtime.