Poll for SRP writers & Moderators

[Sweetp4u]

mya..

That is why we are having this debate here today. To find out how people feel about it. About sub forums and the clubs in general.

Im not taking action on anything, not deciding for all of srp anything, I am listening to opinions and gathering data

I wouldnt have to defend myself if people would quit insinuating I am out to get them.

And yes Mya, it's up to me to move them reguardless of the sub forum going through or not. BUT i am taking into account those who write in there and their feelings on this. NOT my feelings. I happen to like socializing with friends, if that tells you anything?
and just because you dont talk to me, doesnt mean you dont belong in here.

I dont think I can take another week of this 'debate', I think by tomorrow I will have an answer for Laurel on the sub forum.

I've been put into a spot now where i am damned if i do damned if I dont. meaning if the votes did favor a sub forum, and it was put up there. I would be resented for that move. And if it doesnt go up and everything stays as it is I will also look like I am caving in because of what has been said here. Either way, it isnt my feelings as an issue here, but the general population of srp.

 

[chanaud]

SweetP, yes, if you did move the threads when it doesn't break any of the rules, it would be 'God like'. I didn't call you 'God Like'. I was trying to enlighten you why you have been accused of it in the past.

If I appeared rude, I apologize. I think if you ask around, you will find that I'm one of the easiest going posters here. I don't like confrontations. In fact, I try to avoid it as much as I can. However, if you do bring up an issue that I consider home, I will debate you on it. And others might too. It doesn't mean we don't like you. We, like you, are just trying to protect our 'home'.

 

[Sweetp4u]

for you Snork

It's alright, you are right and all points are valid. And I do drop into ooc's often. I dont hate the clubs. I wish i could explain it better how this came about, but I cant seem to word it right this week.

i will try tho..

I didnt think the ooc clubs were a menace or in the way. I still dont. I was talking to a few mods now and then and ooc's came up as a topic, curious about them and reguards to the rule 'where things belong'. Not because I wanted to cause trouble or upset anyone or because i didnt like the clubs. but because as a mod I like to find out what is required of us, their views and what not on these things.
I got to thinking about it, Having never been to playground to know before hand, about what the 'heads' views were on ooc clubs, and just to hear that 'it's alright'. confirm that I was doing an ok job in srp.
thats when the seperate forum was suggested and here for debate. I brought up this topic, so it is my fault so many are unhappy. but it was with the good intentions and a curious mind to hear from the heads on this. until reading the playground I didnt know what a cess pool could be created, and the more I read the more I think of 'waste of space'. anyways, it is my fault this is being discussed, but I didnt think it would cause a nightmare in here either. or that it would come across that i dont want anyone chatting in srp. Ive said things before thinking clearly how they would sound and I understand the slight tensions because of it. but this is how it got started, facts. if I could share my mind and let people see inside perhaps it would be easier, it was not meant as a weapon or to hurt anyone.

 

[Sweetp4u]

Sorry Chan, I read it wrong. my fault there.
Appologies

Snork asked alot of questions, I think I failed to answer them clearly.

I do visit clubs and have fun chatting as well. I dont think rick's is a waste of space or even the Inn's.

I meant no insult in my comments and my words come out cold or rude sounding often, which isnt my intent but I have many many times said the wrong things and meant another. I am famous for sticking my foot into my own mouth.
I love writing in srp, I enjoy meeting new people every day and I love to help out when ever it is possible for me to do so. It isnt my intention to come across as 'my way or the high way', but many have said I do. again, sorry it wasnt my intention.
I was for the sub forum, thinking it would be fun to have a variety of clubs on all topics, even a story discussion occ which was my intention with 'den of sin', didnt work out that way, could be my own fault as well. anyways enough rambling, the comments werent meant personally and I took them that way, my fault there. Appologies for that, and they are meant sincerely. Before this board vanishes and the poll, I would like to make amends for anything I did and didnt notice, and did notice. Words can be a great gift or our worst enemy *quote from me*
be safe all
Sweetp

 

[Snork Maiden]

SweetP, damned if you do, damned if you don't

I think everyone realises that we all type the words we mean to say but they don't always come out the way we intended. How often have I done that to my own discredit.

You were absolutely right to bring this topic to the forum, it wasn't your job to do so but you did. You felt it was fairer to have an open discussion, and like you said the decision could have been made behind closed doors.

Ever wondered how Joan of Arc must have felt ?

I am going to say no more on this with the exception that you should still let it ride now till Friday which was your intention and let the those in the forum that want to, post their views.

<BIG HUG> You really do do a very good job here and you are appreciated

Snork

 

[BLACK WIDOW]

I think they should stay here.

The OOC are now a PART of the RP experience.

 

[LAVA GODDESSS]

For as long as I can remember, the OOC have been a way to discuss the RP's. I dont' understand why they are causing a problem. This isn't an attack, nor anything ill willed.

But the OOC have EVERYTHING to do with the rp's. So they get off topic, such is life.

I know that for every rp there is an ooc, and sometimes that gets tedious, but it IS needed.

To have a seperate forum for it will drastically change things. And in my honest opinion, not for the better.

 

[ShyGuy68]

I think they should stay here.

The OOC are now a PART of the RP experience.

My opinion as well. And if people don't want to read the threads, well don't click on it.

It's the same on the general board, if you don't want to read a thread, don't click a link. It's not possible to design a board where all people can get it as they want.

 

[Maid of Marvels]

I am of the opinion that the OOC's in SRP and in ORP serve a purpose in their respective forums, as they do in the other forums where they are located. They are, including the ones attached to specific threads, a place for members to develop a sense of "community" which might not be possible in a site of this magnitude without their existence.

I vote that they remain where they are.

 

[poohlive]

All right, I am getting a bit aggrevated about this.
I do not want to be rude, and I think everyone in here has a valid opinion about whatever they want to discuss, but the problem is you are making it too vague.
You put up here, both SRP and (big word, 'and' in there) ORP.
Either they vote for sub forums in "both" or they vote for no sub forums in either.
I don't like how you are grouping the two together. This is not a winner take all kind of thing, theses are two seperate forums, with two seperate ways of handling things.
This is the SRP, which means, decisions for the SRP and how they handle things should be discussed here. This would be just like if we started having votes and polls on how to do things in the ORP about the SRP. Its silly, and pointless. The threads are different, so the voting, and the poll.... AND the ideas themselves, should be seperate. The ORP forum having a sub category has nothing to do with the SRP.
In the same context, the SRP having a sub category has absolutely nothing to do with the ORP.
I know, in theory, they are supposed to be similiar threads, but they are not. They are nothing like each other, even the players are different. Some people switch from ORP and SRP, but even in that context, they are moving to two different forums, with different sets of rules, and different backgrounds.
I don't like how things are just grouped together, and its implied (at least to me, and a couple other I've talked to) that whatever happens will happen both in SRP and ORP.
Personally, cause I know SRP, and I've written in here for quite some time, I'm on the fence about the party threads in here. I don't go into the group party threads, so it wouldn't make any difference which way it goes.
HOWEVER.
In ORP, there is an official thread for talking and general chit chat about things. I made it a, "talk about whatever you want" thread, and it works quite well in the ORP forum. If we made a sub category, it would hold one or two threads, and be totally pointless otherwise.
For SRP, if its becoming this much of a problem, then something should be done, but there is no problem in the ORP forum.
We solved it months ago, and we're happy with the solution.
Thank you.
Gary,
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator.

 

[Sweetp4u]

Gary we've already talked about this in ORP. What is said here in SRP has nothing to do with orp. and whats said in the thread in ORP has nothing to do with srp.

 

[LAVA GODDESSS]

Gary we've already talked about this in ORP. What is said here in SRP has nothing to do with orp. and whats said in the thread in ORP has nothing to do with srp.

but...

you said this too:

Would a Sub Forum in ORP and in SRP be welcomed? A place for ooc's, general chatting and get together's. Not story discussions really, those are still app. to SRP and ORP. I have by Friday to get the numbers in to and against the ideas. So make your voice heard and count! Please? Either way the ooc's stay in SRP and ORP, they aren't being moved, but this would be a place it is clearly ALRIGHT to post all the chit chat we want to without worrying about too many ooc threads clogging up the SRP and ORP Forums.

 

[Sweetp4u]

There is a thread for views on this for orp which will only pertain to orp. And there is this thread which only pertains to srp. this was a general post for both places, that place which you write in.

 

[Guest]

why dont we all grow up?

it is a simple issue. stop trying to be politicians and attach other venues to it. opinion is good but snideness is petty. so just state it out plain and vote.

do you want the clubs in with the threads or not

 

[Sweetp4u]

Poll is closed and so is the debate on this now.

Ty all who posted here and voiced their opinions and clearly outlined everything for a better understanding.

I pm'd Laurel with the best descision I could make at this time.

Good evening to all, I will leave this until tomorrow before removing it.

Sweet p

 

[LAVA GODDESSS]

Re: why dont we all grow up?

it is a simple issue. stop trying to be politicians and attach other venues to it. opinion is good but snideness is petty. so just state it out plain and vote.

do you want the clubs in with the threads or not

If I came off as snide, that wasn't my intentions.

Glad you got results Sweetp, but why does this need to be deleted? let it drop to the archives...

I await in anticipation as to what is going to happen...

 

[Sweetp4u]

This thread served it's purpose, just for the debate. I see no reason to keep it in lit but if that is how everyone feels? Then thats fine with me as well.


Sp

 

[ariosto]

SweetP has passed the word to Laurel that she believes it's best to leave the OOC's where they are.
I would like to thank her for this decision and offer her my comisserations for having been in the middle of a tempest which I don't believe she anticipated.

If there are any feathers still ruffled, then it's time unruffle them.
The Moderators job can be a tough one and I think she handled all this pretty well.

Peace

 

[Sweetp4u]

note: lava has a good point and there is no reason to delete this thread but let it rest in archives when all said and done.
The feelings should stay in srp to let those who search know and see it!
Rest well all, ty Ari

sweet dreams,
Sweet p

 

[SexyChele]

I guess my busy day has precluded me from being able to fully participate in this ongoing debate. Guess that's a good thing!

Sweetp, I only wanted to state a couple of things and I had thought of doing them through PM and decided against it. I stated things here publically, and therefore should continue.

1. I can only hope that my words were not among those that might have been interpreted as taking pop shots at you. If so, I truly apologize, as that was not my intention. Trying to keep track of this bunch is not an easy job. I was simply attempting to state how I felt, and my intention was not to cause harm. Again, my apologies if my words caused any harm.

2. I really do appreciate the opportunity that you have provided for folks here to voice their opinions. I don't think that was stated anywhere in this thread, though I could very well be wrong and apologize to anyone if I've missed their words. Putting yourself on the line by taking the "arrows of debate" is a tough stance and shows a certain strength of character. By allowing each of us to voice an opinion, at the risk of placing you in an unfortunate situation, you have confirmed the ideals of freedom of speech held so highly at Lit. Thank you for that - I for one, appreciate that.

And now, I shall quietly back out of this thread and continue to carry on....

 

[Laurel]

Hi all!

I just wanted to drop a note to clarify things a bit.

If you go to the Personals area, you'll see that there's an area for people to post personal ads, plus a forum inside the Personals forum called The Playground at the top of the forum where people can have conversations that aren't personal ads.

That's the general idea - putting all the OOC threads into a place where they can be easily found. It would make room for more story threads on the front page, while allowing discussions about the stories to take place also.

This isn't an attempt to discourage OOC discussions - because they are a necessary part of the process. We're just trying to find a way to make it so it's easier to find things as the thread volume grows. As the number of threads grow, finding any particular thread becomes harder and harder. We were hoping that by moving the OOC threads into a special place - sort of like an OOC Cafe - it would make it easier for you to find the thread you're looking for.

It's your forum, so it's your choice. Honestly, I don't see how this would be a bad thing. It isn't eliminating OOC discussions - if anything, it's making them easier to find, and having a place for them should actually encourage them to continue. However, it's all the same to me. You are the people who use the area, so you know what's best. If at any point you do decide that you want to have an OOC Cafe, let me know. Thanks for the consideration, and have fun!

 

[chanaud]

I was wondering where this thread went to. The sticky lost its glue and the thead fell from the top. Haha! Ok, ok, bad joke. Keep my day job, huh? <grin>

First of all -

SweetP, I would like to thank you for allowing us to debate on this issue. As you can see, this subject touches home with some of the posters here. I think that is why some of us got a little heated in here. And I include myself in that 'some of us' group. I hope you don't think we're here to 'get' you. We are all here for one purpose and that is to 'create'. Again, I apologize if any of my words hurt you. It truly wasn't meant to.

Secondly -

Laurel, it's good to see your presence here in our strange world. You have created a unique venue that most of us has adopted as home. And for that, I would like to thank you.

This is your site. And, it's free. We don't pay a membership. Therefore, you can do whatever you want. If a time comes when a subforum is necessary, then I ask you to move all of the OOC's and not just the clubs. That way SweetP and ARaynes aren't forced to make biased decisions and feelings aren't hurt.

Peace,
Chanaud

 

[Sweetp4u]

I liked the ooc/ cafe idea, it had a nice ring to it with a catchy under phrase like "meet the writers of srp" I thought it would go over well.

All is said and done, unless Laurel decides something Which is her right

Chan, hun no hard feelings really. Everyone is human and stepped on toes are bound to happen even if not intended that way

Peace and good will,

Sweetp