POTUS has "Total" Power

[Botanical11B]

All the authoritarian rules and edicts, are coming out of dimocrat governors, mayors, and sheriffs. But no outrage.

Trump, nothing but talk....And leftists all have their panties in a bunch.

If Trump cured cancer they'd protest in mass that curing cancer was racist and sexist against oncologist, which are disproportionately not-white making him Orange Hitler!!

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Never said he didn't.



Nope.

You took it out of context because it was a two word phrase "absolute power" and you tried to present that as his at large claim. Just like the OMB media has told you.

Which is not true.

In context, all he did was state the reality of federal supremacy and the very nature of the executive branch of government.



Not that websites and nation states are really comparable but even then, I fully support the owners right to secure their site however they wish.

LOL! Nothing at all has changed, you were wrong then and you're still wrong now, and you'll be wrong with whatever post your compulsion forces you to reply with. I'll laugh at that post too.

You need to make a choice. Was it taken out of context & Trump doesn't believe he has absolute power as he said, or does Trump believe he has absolute power? You totally avoided this direct question & doubled down on having it both ways.

You don't. You're supporting open borders by remaining here. You were banned from the site but have dishonestly snuck back in.

 

[Botanical11B]

Trump’s the one who claimed he had absolute authority, not me. If that’s not a totalitarian view, I don’t know what is.

Over the executive branch of government, which is true.

It's not a totalitarian view, it's an objective legal reality because of the federal supremacy clause in article VI of the Constitution.

The cultists are having to work overtime with the stupidity coming out of Trump's mouth.

Of course it wasn't taken out of context.

Zippy denies reality, won't hear ANYTHING except "absolute power" and will disregard the ENTIRE conversation surrounding those words. Because that would shit all over the OMB narrative.

Just like Adre and the rest of the OMB brigade.

 

[hogjack]

Waiting for jet fighters to scream overhead but have not heard shit so far. And where are the troops and house raids?

Totalitarianism ain't what it used to be.

 

[Botanical11B]

LOL! Nothing at all has changed, you were wrong then and you're still wrong now, and you'll be wrong with whatever post your compulsion forces you to reply with. I'll laugh at that post too.

Your lack of reading ability doesn't make me wrong.

You need to make a choice. Was it taken out of context & Trump doesn't believe he has absolute power as he said, or does Trump believe he has absolute power? You totally avoided this direct question & doubled down on having it both ways.

False dilemma fallacy.

It's not an either or, he can have absolute power over his branch of government. He does and that's a fact.

You can also take the words "absolute power" out of that context, the executive branch of government, to make it seem like he's claiming "absolute power" at large. Which is bullshit fake news and everyone but you and the other OMBNPC's knows it.

You don't. You're supporting open borders by remaining here. You were banned from the site but have dishonestly snuck back in.

Nope, false equivalency fallacy is still a fallacy, no matter how many times you repeat it.

Websites=/=nation states.

I didn't sneak back it, I applied and was approved. And just because I'm a decent person if they write me a note asking me to not come back, I wouldn't.

And if the site owners wants tighter security I still fully support their right to do so.

You tried ascription and failed, trying it again isn't going to make it work

 

[Adre]

Over the executive branch of government, which is true.
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Lil’ yap yap argues even when public evidence proves he’s wrong. He claimed absolute authority over states. Conservatives like Liz Cheney smacked him down for his absurd statements. You keep making shit up and the few of us who still pay you any mind at all might stop.

By the way, even he walked back his ridiculous claims when he learned how ignorant they actually were. So maybe you should too.

 

[Botanical11B]

Lil’ yap yap argues even when public evidence proves he’s wrong. He claimed absolute authority over states.

Under the US Constitution he does. It's called the federal supremacy clause, Article VI.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding

POTUS> Governors.

Conservatives like Liz Cheney smacked him down for his absurd statements. You keep making shit up and the few of us who still pay you any mind at all might stop.

By the way, even he walked back his ridiculous claims when he learned how ignorant they actually were. So maybe you should too.

If governors have EQUAL authority to POTUS then why the fuck do we even have a POTUS or a federal government for that matter??

FEDERAL > state.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Your lack of reading ability doesn't make me wrong.



False dilemma fallacy.

It's not an either or, he can have absolute power over his branch of government. He does and that's a fact.

You can also take the words "absolute power" out of that context, the executive branch of government, to make it seem like he's claiming "absolute power" at large. Which is bullshit fake news and everyone but you and the other OMBNPC's knows it.



Nope, false equivalency fallacy is still a fallacy, no matter how many times you repeat it.

Websites=/=nation states.

I didn't sneak back it, I applied and was approved. And just because I'm a decent person if they write me a note asking me to not come back, I wouldn't.

And if the site owners wants tighter security I still fully support their right to do so.

You tried ascription and failed, trying it again isn't going to make it work

You being wrong is what makes you wrong. Again, you're arguing against proven facts.

You're still running from the question.

You did sneak back. You made up a new name after being banned, that's being dishonest & sneaking back in. You're not supposed to be here. You not being able to reconcile your support of open borders doesn't make it any less so.

It's not ascription when it's a position you've adopted.

You're just lying and making stuff up.

 

[hogjack]

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You're just lying and making stuff up.

Or using unnamed, anonymous sources. That's all the rage these days.

 

[bellisarius]

Waiting for jet fighters to scream overhead but have not heard shit so far. And where are the troops and house raids?

Totalitarianism ain't what it used to be.

You forgot the black helicopters.

 

[Botanical11B]

You being wrong is what makes you wrong. Again, you're arguing against proven facts.

You making a statement doesn't make a proven fact.

You're still running from the question.

Because it's based on a logical fallacy and is thus inherently dishonest.

Why should I indulge your obvious dishonesty??

You did sneak back. You made up a new name after being banned, that's being dishonest & sneaking back in. You're not supposed to be here. You not being able to reconcile your support of open borders doesn't make it any less so.

It's not ascription when it's a position you've adopted.

You're just lying and making stuff up.

It's not a position I've adopted, that's why it's an ascription.

Asking to come back in and being let in isn't sneaking.

If I'm not supposed to be here they can ask me to leave or block me from coming back and fully support and respect their right to do so.

Also, still not a nation state, but even if it were you're still wrong.

 

[hogjack]

You forgot the black helicopters.

That's racist but, yes, helicopters.

This neo-Nazi regime is really missing out on the fun stuff.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You making a statement doesn't make a proven fact.



Because it's based on a logical fallacy and is thus inherently dishonest.



It's not a position I've adopted, that's why it's an ascription.

Asking to come back in and being let in isn't sneaking.

If I'm not supposed to be here they can ask me to leave or block me from coming back and fully support and respect their right to do so.

Also, still not a nation state, but even if it were you're still wrong.

Me providing the direct quote makes it a fact that Trump said it.
Still haven't answer a simple direct question.
It is sneaking in when you use a false name and aren't honest.
It's not ascription when you've openly adopted the policy as you have.
You've been wrong all morning. Your compulsion will force you to post more lies and I'll continue to laugh at you.

 

[bellisarius]

That's racist but, yes, helicopters.

This neo-Nazi regime is really missing out on the fun stuff.

If they were painted white it would be called "White Supremacy." Color seems to be a dilemma.

 

[Botanical11B]

Me providing the direct quote makes it a fact that Trump said it.

I never argued that he didn't.

I argued that you didn't provide and refuse to acknowledge the context, to push your partisan bullshit.

Still haven't answer a simple direct question.

It's fallicious and dishonest, why should I indulge your dishonesty??

It is sneaking in when you use a false name and aren't honest.
It's not ascription when you've openly adopted the policy as you have.
You've been wrong all morning. Your compulsion will force you to post more lies and I'll continue to laugh at you.

It's not a false name, it was immediately blatant who I was to everyone on the board, except you apparently. No shocker there

The only liar here is you....it's not my compulsion, that was a glaring projection

 

[hogjack]

If they were painted white it would be called "White Supremacy." Color seems to be a dilemma.

The only correct color is camouflage. An updated version of camo with some other pretty colors mixed in.

 

[bellisarius]

Something like this should do.

https://travsd.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/ken-kesey-bus-furthur.jpg

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I never argued that he didn't.

I argued that you didn't provide and refuse to acknowledge the context, to push your partisan bullshit.



It's fallicious and dishonest, why should I indulge your dishonesty??



It's not a false name, it was immediately blatant who I was to everyone on the board, except you apparently. No shocker there

The only liar here is you....it's not my compulsion, that was a glaring projection

I've acknowledged the context he said it in. You haven't.
The questions was honest, simple and direct. You running away from it means that you acknowledge you were wrong.
It is 100% a false name. Your original name is no longer available because you broke the forum rules and were banned. You made up a new name and snuck back in. This shows a total lack of respect for other people's property and their right to use it as they wish along with a lack of respect for the forum guidelines, for the people who came into the forum the correct way and the people here who do follow the guidelines. No one on the board has a problem with people who come in the proper way. You don't belong here, but insist on being here anyway.

 

[Adre]

Only lil’ yap yap could read Article VI and insist that it confers absolute authority over all Governors and the matters of the states they govern. It does confer certain powers, which is far different than having absolute authority.

(Lil’ yap yap seems to have trouble with the difference between opinion—what he wants to believe—and fact— that which is real.)

 

[Botanical11B]

Told you the compulsion was yours

 

[zipman]

I've acknowledged the context he said it in. You haven't.
The questions was honest, simple and direct. You running away from it means that you acknowledge you were wrong.
It is 100% a false name. Your original name is no longer available because you broke the forum rules and were banned. You made up a new name and snuck back in. This shows a total lack of respect for other people's property and their right to use it as they wish along with a lack of respect for the forum guidelines, for the people who came into the forum the correct way and the people here who do follow the guidelines. No one on the board has a problem with people who come in the proper way. You don't belong here, but insist on being here anyway.

Why waste your time?

The context was quite clear but cultists gonna cult and deflect and deny it.

 

[Botanical11B]

Only lil’ yap yap could read Article VI and insist that it confers absolute authority over all Governors and the matters of the states they govern. It does confer certain powers, which is far different than having absolute authority.

(Lil’ yap yap seems to have trouble with the difference between opinion—what he wants to believe—and fact— that which is real.)

LOL...governors are executive branch, and direct subordinates to POTUS, always have been.

When POTUS steps in with authority handed to him by congress, the governors must submit.

It's called a "supremacy" clause for a reason.

 

[Botanical11B]

Why waste your time?

The context was quite clear but cultists gonna cult and deflect and deny it.

That must be why you two are clinging so hard to a two word quote "absolute power" and intentionally ignoring the rest of the conversation it was used in right??



ORANGE MAN BAD GOD DAMN IT!!!
https://media2.giphy.com/media/HihTAdVMgLiTu/source.gif

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Why waste your time?

The context was quite clear but cultists gonna cult and deflect and deny it.

Yeah, I agree that Botany is a Kool-Aid drinking cultist. If it wasn't a global pandemic I wouldn't waste my time. He's entertaining.

 

[Botanical11B]

Oh looks like I'm going to be living rent free for a while too....