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J10

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Question about having sex w/o a condom.. If the guy is not wearing a condom, and has not cummed in several days (I heard this means there is no sperm in the precum), and then he pulls out before cumming, can the girl still be pregnant? Also, if the guy is using a condom and pulls out before cumming and assuming it does not break, can the girl get pregnant?
 
Condoms aren't 100% effective but if you use them with spermacide you're very very safe. Practically 100%.

A guy might have sperm in his precum if he's cum recently, yes. But lemme tell ya... you cannot rely on a guy pulling out before he cums in you!
 
also, if you're not using a condom, and she's not on a hormonal method or using a barrier, then even some of the pre-ejaculatory fluid (pre-cum) has the possibility of having a few sperm in it...and all it takes is one determined sperm to inpregnate a lady.
 
J10 said:
Question about having sex w/o a condom.. If the guy is not wearing a condom, and has not cummed in several days (I heard this means there is no sperm in the precum), and then he pulls out before cumming, can the girl still be pregnant? Also, if the guy is using a condom and pulls out before cumming and assuming it does not break, can the girl get pregnant?
Providing a man has not had a vasectomy or some rare condition, you need to assume his ejaculatory fluid (yes, even pre-cum) ALWAYS contains sperm.

Yes, even if he pulls out before ejaculation, she can still get pregnant. If he ejaculates anywhere near her vulva, she can still get pregnant. If he ejaculates elsewhere and it somehow gets to her vulva, she can get pregnant.

The best bet is to always use condoms and at least one other reliable form of birth control. The more reliable it is, the better, so something hormonal (pill, patch, NuvaRing, etc.) PLUS condoms is the safest way to go. Do NOT allow (or put) a penis anywhere near the vulva, and if ejaculate or precum gets on another part of the body, go wash it off with soap and hot water immediately so you don't accidently touch or get it near female genitalia. Better safe than sorry!
 
New info on withdrawal

SweetErika said:
Providing a man has not had a vasectomy or some rare condition, you need to assume his ejaculatory fluid (yes, even pre-cum) ALWAYS contains sperm.
Hi all! Now this is fairly new info but you can confirm it in the "U.S. Bible" of reproductive health, "Contraceptive Technology." (Reproductive Health Educator here...) The notion that pre-cum has sperm in it came from one very flawed study done in the 1940's that's never been replicated but has been repeated as gospel ever since. In some countries where birth control is difficult and expensive to obtain (sometimes in part due to our lovely Bush Administration at work), they actually now include withdrawal among the birth control methods they discuss with reproductive health clients.

The bigger difficulties with withdrawal vs. protected sex are:

1) no protection against STI's
2) even experienced men can make mistakes and not pull out in time - when you're younger it's guaranteed to happen at some point
3) even if the guy pulls out in time, he has to be very careful not to cum anywhere close to the vagina because those little suckers swimming inside his ejaculatory fluid were made to swim, swim, swim... :)

How many sperm does the average ejaculation have? 40 million per ejaculation is considered fertile by the world health organization. Actually, if you haven't cum for several days, there will be a greater concentration of the little buggers...

If you used a condom and it didn't break (correctly used then - bravo!), and you didn't take it off and spill sperm anywhere near the vaginal opening (you said you didn't actually cum), then you're free and clear! Despite what the Bush Administration would have us believe and despite not being 100% effective, what others have said about high reliability of condoms is, thankfully, true.

Note of caution here - if STIs are at all a concern, it's best not to use spermicide if you live in the U.S., since so many people experience irritation from nonoxynol-9, the only spermicide available here. My understanding is that there is at least one more available in Europe???
 
It`s always best to read as many books and stuff way BEFORE thinking of having sex.
 
neonflux said:
Hi all! Now this is fairly new info but you can confirm it in the "U.S. Bible" of reproductive health, "Contraceptive Technology." (Reproductive Health Educator here...) The notion that pre-cum has sperm in it came from one very flawed study done in the 1940's that's never been replicated but has been repeated as gospel ever since.

I'd heard this elsewhere myself, but didn't have enough confidence in the source I personally heard it from to repeat. Maybe you can link to it?
 
My mother always said that the best form of birth control is an aspirin held between your knees!! :D


- If your guy is not willing to have sex with a condom then don't do it with him until you find another method and he tests clean for STD's. Don't risk it, it's not worth it to find out later he has strong swimmers or a bug he "didn't know" about.

- If you don't feel sure that the method you are using is safe then don't do it until you find another method. Condoms don't impress me anyway, there are just too many "what if's"...

- If you can't find another method and are scared of dealing with the consequences of making a mistake then use abstinence. It is the only absolute form of birth control and has been around forever.
 
Kinksville said:
I'd heard this elsewhere myself, but didn't have enough confidence in the source I personally heard it from to repeat. Maybe you can link to it?

Well I'm not sure where he got that information, but it sure sounds like wishful thinking to me. It's pretty much accepted in the medical field that there is sperm in pre-cum, not much mind you, but it only takes one.
 
neonflux said:
Hi all! Now this is fairly new info but you can confirm it in the "U.S. Bible" of reproductive health, "Contraceptive Technology." (Reproductive Health Educator here...) The notion that pre-cum has sperm in it came from one very flawed study done in the 1940's that's never been replicated but has been repeated as gospel ever since. In some countries where birth control is difficult and expensive to obtain (sometimes in part due to our lovely Bush Administration at work), they actually now include withdrawal among the birth control methods they discuss with reproductive health clients.

The bigger difficulties with withdrawal vs. protected sex are:

1) no protection against STI's
2) even experienced men can make mistakes and not pull out in time - when you're younger it's guaranteed to happen at some point
3) even if the guy pulls out in time, he has to be very careful not to cum anywhere close to the vagina because those little suckers swimming inside his ejaculatory fluid were made to swim, swim, swim... :)

How many sperm does the average ejaculation have? 40 million per ejaculation is considered fertile by the world health organization. Actually, if you haven't cum for several days, there will be a greater concentration of the little buggers...

If you used a condom and it didn't break (correctly used then - bravo!), and you didn't take it off and spill sperm anywhere near the vaginal opening (you said you didn't actually cum), then you're free and clear! Despite what the Bush Administration would have us believe and despite not being 100% effective, what others have said about high reliability of condoms is, thankfully, true.

Note of caution here - if STIs are at all a concern, it's best not to use spermicide if you live in the U.S., since so many people experience irritation from nonoxynol-9, the only spermicide available here. My understanding is that there is at least one more available in Europe???

Interesting. At any rate, I think it's still far better to assume there is, or could be, sperm in pre-cum and not risk it unless you can afford a pregnancy. There are always people who defy science and the odds, and some would likely mistake/write-off starting and stopping or a small ejaculation as pre-cum. Plus, you bring up a good point about the STI risk with withdrawal, and I'd venture to say some will hear, "Pre-cum usually doesn't contain sperm" as, "As long as ejaculation doesn't take place, everything will be fine."
 
my doctor told me that a condom used correctly will protect against pregnancy. and that its when they're not used correctly that they break and people get pregnant. plus these days its best to use condoms for protection from diseases too, because you can't guess whether someone has an STD just from looking at them. people have diseases like chlamydia that can have no symptoms but can lead to infertility
 
ickle_stace said:
my doctor told me that a condom used correctly will protect against pregnancy. and that its when they're not used correctly that they break and people get pregnant.

Condoms are 99.9% effective when used correctly - nothing is fullproof against getting pregnant.
 
bisexplicit said:
Condoms are 99.9% effective when used correctly - nothing is fullproof against getting pregnant.

well for those of us who don't really have many other choices for protection, then they're the best available, they're working for me so im happy
 
Huh. I always thought pre-cum did have sperm, but I just googled around, and it would appear that the fluid itself does not. It can push sperm out that may be hanging around from a recent ejaculation, but otherwise no.

Ya learn something new every day!
 
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