PSA: Gary Johnson announced his candidacy for President

[BoyNextDoor]

Libertarian Party Candidate Gary Johnson Chooses Former Mass. Gov. Bill Weld as His VP

I think this is interesting news. While I am still feeling the Bern, I can see real value in the Libertarians passing 5%. That woudl be appx 5 million votes in the general election. A Johnson/Weld ticket would definitely do it if they get some $$, and the national polling includes them and the Libertarian Party is included in the debates.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Option T and Option C are too frightening to even consider, so Option J?

 

[patient1]

I only get one vote. I can't vote against both Shillary and Drumpf. If I don't vote, I don't count, other than to validate the negative tv ad strategy.

So this year I vote FOR something I believe in, rather than against Goldman Sachs or against her other donor. I hope that's Johnson and Weld, because they would be better qualified than Trump or Obama when they ran for president.

I don't expect it to change anything, but it will make it a lot easier to live with myself for the next 4-8 years, whether we as a nation firmly establish the oligarchy, or initiate fascism.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Gary wants good government...
• Cut taxes and balance the budget.

That is neither good government nor mathematically possible.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That is neither good government nor mathematically possible.

It could be possible eventually.

If we get rid of 10,000 inhalers, 30,000 dollar hammers, mega Superbowl ready football stadiums for HS's with only 19 students total, 50 billion dollar subs we don't even have sailors for and 400 billion dollar super jets we don't need and can't afford.

OH and don't forget about endlessly fucking around in the middle east.

And it's good government to stop blowing insane money on that stupid shit.

I'm not holding my breath though....as long as a corporation can walk into congress and buy whatever laws they want things like that will never happen.

 

[patient1]

Johnson and Weld were officially approved by the Libertarian Convention.
So between them, as a pair of two term governors they will almost certainly have more years of experience as an elected executive than the combined Republicrat tickets.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Johnson and Weld were officially approved by the Libertarian Convention.
So between them, as a pair of two term governors they will almost certainly have more years of experience as an elected executive than the combined Republicrat tickets.

Doesn't matter.....I'd genuinely be shocked if they even got 1% of the vote.

 

[sr71plt]

This campaign does give folks more of a choice. There is also rumbling today of a alternate Republican Party candidate being launched.

 

[JackLuis]

Jesse Ventura: I’m not running for president — because I’m afraid I might win

Former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura (I) closed the door on any possibility he would run for the presidency in a statement posted on his Ora.TV show’s website, while arguing that he would still “love to run” against Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

“When I looked in the mirror, I thought, ‘I’d love to do the campaign this summer,’ But then, the fear that I might win started sinking in. I just didn’t want to win, and you have to run to win,” the Off The Grid host wrote. “I didn’t want to win because doing that job takes your freedom from you.”

Earlier this year, Ventura floated the idea of a third-party candidacy if Sen. Bernie Sanders were to lose the Democratic Party primary. He also said in his statement that fans had also urged him to run for the Libertarian Party nomination.

However, he said, he did not want to split the party’s support for current candidate Gary Johnson, and pledged to also offer his backing for the former New Mexico governor.

Ventura also expressed hope that both Democrats and Republicans could lose the election.

 

[patient1]

Doesn't matter.....I'd genuinely be shocked if they even got 1% of the vote.

John Anderson got 7% against Carter and Reagan.

Shillary and The Donald have the highest negatives in history. Johnson will likely be the only other name on the ballot in every state. Think of it as a new way to spell None of the Above.

 

[BotanyBoy]

John Anderson got 7% against Carter and Reagan.

Shillary and The Donald have the highest negatives in history. Johnson will likely be the only other name on the ballot in every state. Think of it as a new way to spell None of the Above.

Well he might do something then...but it won't be beating (R) or (D)....America is too brainwashed to consider anything else.

If anything it will mostly just hurt Trump.

Clinton supporters are absolutely untouchable, the woman could eat live babies on TV and they would all cheer. They will never vote for anyone except who the DNC tells them to, ever.

My none of the above includes doing productive things instead of voting.....like drinking beer and eating cute furry things burnt over an open flame.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Doesn't matter.....I'd genuinely be shocked if they even got 1% of the vote.

I am betting 5%+

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

MAY 31, 2016

Libertarians Pick Johnson, But Anti-Trump Rightbloggers Balk — He's Too Libertarian.

(gsgs comment- Maybe, the Republicans cannot deal with the name that they have chosen. Libs, or Libbers are what Liberals have been called. I am new of those "Women's Libbers." Republicans had objections to the Women's Liberation movement. The push for E.R.A. gave them headaches. It makes me sad that the Libertarian Party has the LP designation. LP,to me, is something I use to play music.)

New Mexico Republican governor Gary Johnson for the presidency and former Massachusetts governor William Weld as his running mate, thus offering the Republican #NeverTrump folks — whose complaints I’ve been covering for months — a chance to put their money where their mouth is and support a non-Trump pair of Republicans.

But in the end Johnson/Weld doesn’t offer enough of what they really want — e.g., persecution of women and minorities, and True Conservative escapism.

Reason, the flagship Libertarian publication, celebrated the convention with a video explaining to Republicans why they should go LP for Trump year.

Believe it or not, Reason also had a video on why Democrats should vote Libertarian.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/li...ightbloggers-balk-hes-too-libertarian-8674776

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

MAY 31, 2016

Libertarians Pick Johnson, But Anti-Trump Rightbloggers Balk — He's Too Libertarian.

(gsgs comment- Maybe, the Republicans cannot deal with the name that they have chosen. Libs, or Libbers are what Liberals have been called. I am new of those "Women's Libbers." Republicans had objections to the Women's Liberation movement. The push for E.R.A. gave them headaches. It makes me sad that the Libertarian Party has the LP designation. LP,to me, is something I use to play music.)

New Mexico Republican governor Gary Johnson for the presidency and former Massachusetts governor William Weld as his running mate, thus offering the Republican #NeverTrump folks — whose complaints I’ve been covering for months — a chance to put their money where their mouth is and support a non-Trump pair of Republicans.

But in the end Johnson/Weld doesn’t offer enough of what they really want — e.g., persecution of women and minorities, and True Conservative escapism.

Reason, the flagship Libertarian publication, celebrated the convention with a video explaining to Republicans why they should go LP for Trump year.

Believe it or not, Reason also had a video on why Democrats should vote Libertarian.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/li...ightbloggers-balk-hes-too-libertarian-8674776

I predict that Republicans will split 6 ways, all of them resulting in a disaster for the GOP:

1. The main body will stick with Trump, even if they have to hold their noses to vote for him. This is decidedly the scariest and largest segment, the one that gives him any chance at all, though mainly if he manages to depress turnout.
2. A second and significant group will back whatever third-party drone Bill Kristol and his neo-con chicken hawks line up. David French is apparently the man of the hour.....good luck getting on the ballot, of course, so it's write-in city for many of them.
3. Many will just stay home. Period. It's this group that will hand the Senate to the Dems and shrink the GOP majority in the House (though not enough due to gerrymandering).
4. Some will write in protest candidates of their own or opt for third-party candidates other than the Libertarians. Yeah, good luck for that.
5. Some moderates will opt to vote Democratic for President and Republican for the rest. Yes, organizations such as Republicans for Hillary and Republicans for Sanders do exist. Also, Moderates for Bernie. These are real groups and they will only hurt the Donald even further.
6. Many will vote for Gary Johnson and Bill Weld, enough to possibly give the Libertarians FEC funds in 2020. Possibly.

All but one of these will combine to probably deny the GOP the White House in 2016. Thank you, Donald Trump!

If, however, Trump wins in spite of this, it's still a disaster. The GOP will lose Congress in 2018 and Trump will be voted out in a landslide after his disastrous Presidency. His successor (Elizabeth Warren, perhaps) will have to undo the havoc that he has wreaked.

This assumes, of course, that there are elections in 2020....no promises, if the Donald wins. He could become King Donald I.

 

[patient1]

No, the "disaster" ( I credit The Donald for putting this word in prominence this year. ) for the GOP began years ago when somebody decided that it wasn't enough to be a registered Republican under Lee Atwater's Big Tent theory. When the RINO hunt began in the name of ideological purity, the party share of voting age adults shrank until they were vulnerable to a hostile takeover from Hillary's donor.

The NeoCons seem to be genuinely surprised every time when we destabilize a Mid-Eastern dictatorship that it doesn't become a pro-Israeli democracy, so they probably honestly thought they were doing God's work in the party purges, too.

But as you say, should Trump win the presidency he and the GOP will be kicked out of Washington, assuming, of course that we still have elections 2-4 years from now and not martial law, and that libel laws haven't been "loosened up" to the point that nobody can speak Trump's trademarked name without praise or payment.

 

[underguy1]

It could be possible eventually.

If we get rid of 10,000 inhalers, 30,000 dollar hammers, mega Superbowl ready football stadiums for HS's with only 19 students total, 50 billion dollar subs we don't even have sailors for and 400 billion dollar super jets we don't need and can't afford.

OH and don't forget about endlessly fucking around in the middle east.

And it's good government to stop blowing insane money on that stupid shit.

I'm not holding my breath though....as long as a corporation can walk into congress and buy whatever laws they want things like that will never happen.

Trying to 'balance the budget' is a fool's errand. It just can't be done unless the private and foreign sectors between them decide they don't want to save.

And trying to do so by cutting spending would just crash the economy again. (And thus push the deficit up).

People don't seem to understand that for the government to run a surplus the non-government must be in deficit.

So what they're asking for is to lose income and savings from the real economy.

And all for what?

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Mitt'ns to vote for Gary?

Mitt Romney may vote Libertarian, as GOP criticism of Trump deepens The Guardian

 

[sr71plt]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Libertarians get onto ballots and get the 15 percent needed to get into the presidential debates. At least in Johnson they have someone who has some idea what managing a government structure is about. (Clinton does too--Trump? not a chance.)

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

No, the "disaster" ( I credit The Donald for putting this word in prominence this year. ) for the GOP began years ago when somebody decided that it wasn't enough to be a registered Republican under Lee Atwater's Big Tent theory. When the RINO hunt began in the name of ideological purity, the party share of voting age adults shrank until they were vulnerable to a hostile takeover from Hillary's donor.

The NeoCons seem to be genuinely surprised every time when we destabilize a Mid-Eastern dictatorship that it doesn't become a pro-Israeli democracy, so they probably honestly thought they were doing God's work in the party purges, too.

But as you say, should Trump win the presidency he and the GOP will be kicked out of Washington, assuming, of course that we still have elections 2-4 years from now and not martial law, and that libel laws haven't been "loosened up" to the point that nobody can speak Trump's trademarked name without praise or payment.

Let's be blunt here. It's not that Middle Eastern people can't have a stable democracy. It's that they have no tradition of it culturally. That takes time and patience. Bush wanted to build in six years of his Presidency, maybe less, what took centuries for the West to do even as well as we do now.....and we still have a long way to go. It doesn't work like that.

 

[underguy1]

Let's be blunt here. It's not that Middle Eastern people can't have a stable democracy. It's that they have no tradition of it culturally. That takes time and patience. Bush wanted to build in six years of his Presidency, maybe less, what took centuries for the West to do even as well as we do now.....and we still have a long way to go. It doesn't work like that.

I'm pretty sure you don't 'build a democracy' in a functioning nation by destroying everything that makes that nation function.

You're talking about the cradle of civilisation as though they are children.

 

[patient1]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGD8gJt7weU

Have you seen this one?

 

[underguy1]

'Libertarians' are idiots that should only be mocked.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

'Libertarians' are idiots that should only be mocked.

And why is that?

 

[underguy1]

And why is that?

I think it's something to do with the wiring in their brains that makes them impervious to economic logic.

 

[PeteHulbert37]

I hope he gets in the debates. I think he would add entertainment value.

Seriously, Trump will talk about himself and make himself look like a fool.

Hilary will drone on and nobody will even listen. Supporters don't care what she says, and opponents can't stomach it to listen to anything that comes out of her mouth.