Psych Thread: You teach me, I teach you

[SeraphNocturne]

I'll toss my stick-figure story your way, Collective Intelligence, that I probably dislike more than I have any good reason to.

 

[LittleLilyCanWrite]

Will do, @seraph_nocturne!

Is it weird how much this turns me on? You guys asking me to read your work? Every time you guys say, “Here, read mine,” it’s like you’re asking to make me cum for you, and yet there’s also something so vulnerable about the request.

At the same, I understand if this admission upsets or disappoints any of you who prefer to see this whole conversation as strictly aboveboard and craft-oriented. What can I say? I’m a therapist, but I also like being the object of sex-adjacent attention. And you guys keep sending me the most wonderful fap material.

 

[StillStunned]

At the same, I understand if this admission upsets or disappoints any of you who prefer to see this whole conversation as strictly aboveboard and craft-oriented. What can I say? I’m a therapist, but I also like being the object of sex-adjacent attention. And you guys keep sending me the most wonderful fap material.

Unless you're secretly researching us, this place is for fun, not work. So don't feel bad about enjoying yourself.

No-one else does.

 

[SeraphNocturne]

Will do, @seraph_nocturne!

Is it weird how much this turns me on? You guys asking me to read your work? Every time you guys say, “Here, read mine,” it’s like you’re asking to make me cum for you, and yet there’s also something so vulnerable about the request.

At the same, I understand if this admission upsets or disappoints any of you who prefer to see this whole conversation as strictly aboveboard and craft-oriented. What can I say? I’m a therapist, but I also like being the object of sex-adjacent attention. And you guys keep sending me the most wonderful fap material.

Well, fuck... ahhhhhhhh... UM!

You're... welcome?

 

[djrip]

Will do, @seraph_nocturne!

Is it weird how much this turns me on? You guys asking me to read your work? Every time you guys say, “Here, read mine,” it’s like you’re asking to make me cum for you, and yet there’s also something so vulnerable about the request.

At the same, I understand if this admission upsets or disappoints any of you who prefer to see this whole conversation as strictly aboveboard and craft-oriented. What can I say? I’m a therapist, but I also like being the object of sex-adjacent attention. And you guys keep sending me the most wonderful fap material.

Okay now I want you to read one

 

[M_K_Babalon]

Will do, @seraph_nocturne!

Is it weird how much this turns me on? You guys asking me to read your work? Every time you guys say, “Here, read mine,” it’s like you’re asking to make me cum for you, and yet there’s also something so vulnerable about the request.

At the same, I understand if this admission upsets or disappoints any of you who prefer to see this whole conversation as strictly aboveboard and craft-oriented. What can I say? I’m a therapist, but I also like being the object of sex-adjacent attention. And you guys keep sending me the most wonderful fap material.

I kinda wanna throw this one specific story to your hungry mental maw, but it's not finished. I've got back into it, though, been working on chapter six, it might end up with one or two chapters more. It's on my other account. It's an incest story with mom and son.

 

[LittleLilyCanWrite]

(Edited your quote down because the site yelled at me about being over the character limit for a post)


I love that breakdown! Thank you for being so detailed and I hope you enjoyed getting off!

And yeah. She wasn't meant to have Autism but PTSD (of the complex variety) with generalized anxiety and a sex addiction. Though, I'm not surprised you read into that the way you did. After the ADD thread here. I'm more curious about whether I am. In fact, autistic and Lena is (as you rightly called) largely based on me.

John is actually based on a super sweet therapist that was on my therapist's floor. Depicted exactly as he was minus the sex undertone, lol.

The double question was meant to be be "Ben the person" not "Ben the therapist" as in: he was caught off guard and reacted without thought around his training.

His office is also based on my therapist's office. He is not, however, based on my therapist, lol. (He was a super sweet guy who did a lot of work with me over a couple years.).


Yeah, everything I read online put dating at a 2-year minimum after ending therapy, so I went with it.

The rest was guess work and I clearly got some of that wrong, lol.

But love the character breakdown and assessment of my mains and side character!

Alright, so, I went and looked into it. The ACA 2014 Code of Ethics (still somehow our field's most "up-to-date" set of ethical guidelines) actually puts the minimum waiting period at FIVE years. See section A.5.c on page 5 of this PDF here. Ugh.

Let me perhaps irresponsibly clarify, however, that these are ethical guidelines, not legal requirements. While flagrant violations of ethical guidelines can, pending a review board hearing, cost a counselor their license and potentially set them up for legal consequences, it is not "against the law" to do many of the things described in the ACA 2014 Code of Ethics.

Sex with clients is reportedly, per my graduate professors anyway, the number one most rampant ethical violation year after year (which is to say, the one that is most frequently reported, reviewed, and punished). So. Let's assume more counselors are getting away with fucking their clients than are being caught, and I think we can confidently state: yeah, almost nobody's waiting five years.

 

[LittleLilyCanWrite]

I kinda wanna throw this one specific story to your hungry mental maw, but it's not finished. I've got back into it, though, been working on chapter six, it might end up with one or two chapters more. It's on my other account. It's an incest story with mom and son.

Oof. I've been able to stomach some brother sister stuff so far. Mother son will be a whole new monster for me. That said, I'm a little thrilled by the potential awfulness, so go ahead and share if you have a particular psych angle you'd like me to bring.

Oh, to be clear guys. If you don't have a clear, explicitly psychological thing for me to look at (a plot-central mental health diagnosis, a therapist main character, therapy as a recurring setting/story mechanic, etc.) then all I can offer you is . . . not a ton. I may be great at writing research papers. I can write session notes with the best of them. But I know next to nothing about erotica, except that I like to read it. If you ask me to read a story that has no clear psych-relevant subject matter, then please forgive me if I bump you down my list of priorities and/or only give you a smidgen of not-very-enlightening feedback.

 

[SeraphNocturne]

By all means, nudge me on down on those terms. I think the FMC in Collective might have some... sociopathic/psychotic tendencies, but there's no other prominent psychological focus there, it's mostly just whacky nerd fun.

 

[M_K_Babalon]

Oof. I've been able to stomach some brother sister stuff so far. Mother son will be a whole new monster for me. That said, I'm a little thrilled by the potential awfulness, so go ahead and share if you have a particular psych angle you'd like me to bring.

Oh, to be clear guys. If you don't have a clear, explicitly psychological thing for me to look at (a plot-central mental health diagnosis, a therapist main character, therapy as a recurring setting/story mechanic, etc.) then all I can offer you is . . . not a ton. I may be great at writing research papers. I can write session notes with the best of them. But I know next to nothing about erotica, except that I like to read it. If you ask me to read a story that has no clear psych-relevant subject matter, then please forgive me if I bump you down my list of priorities and/or only give you a smidgen of not-very-enlightening feedback.

Oh it's not your regular incest story. Mental issues is kinda part of the plot.

 

[burgwad]

Okay, I cannot reasonably ask you to read my erotica output, as it is almost all either monstrously long or monstrously strange. I’m an insufferable try-hard. But I aspire to be an amazing try-hard.

Instead, let me invite you to look at my list of Rules. It’s the first thing I ever posted here, back when I was like you and had no idea if I could really write erotica. You won’t find much to psychologize there (maybe a latent autism diagnosis? who knows!) but somewhere earlier in this thread you did mention you were hoping to get some writerly advice.

And lo, what better advice could you hope to get than from someone who had never written a single piece of erotica yet back when they published said advice, and who would later grow to become me!, a pretentious, bloviating author of sporadic, unapologetically niche incest fiction!

 

[LittleLilyCanWrite]

Okay, I cannot reasonably ask you to read my erotica output, as it is almost all either monstrously long or monstrously strange. I’m an insufferable try-hard. But I aspire to be an amazing try-hard.

Instead, let me invite you to look at my list of Rules. It’s the first thing I ever posted here, back when I was like you and had no idea if I could really write erotica. You won’t find much to psychologize there (maybe a latent autism diagnosis? who knows!) but somewhere earlier in this thread you did mention you were hoping to get some writerly advice.

And lo, what better advice could you hope to get than from someone who had never written a single piece of erotica yet back when they published said advice, and who would later grow to become me!, a pretentious, bloviating author of sporadic, unapologetically niche incest fiction!

Here we are on page 7 of this thread and yet you are only the third or fourth person to offer me actual, clickable advice. Thank you, burgwad! And thank you for warning me to steer clear of your monstrous output. Will do.

As for the usefulness of what you have asked me to read, well . . . It's pretty funny! I don't know that I subscribe to the same stylistic beliefs you do, but I do enjoy your sense of humor, and I admit you have gotten my gears turning with respect to what I might someday try and write myself. Oh and I was especially fond of the phrase, "to the furthest reaches of fucks givable." I may start using that one.

As for a possible "latent autism diagnosis," I don't think anyone would be able to tell on the basis of a single written document. Sure, you seem passionate, and certainly unique, but I would need so much more information in order to have a clear picture. Of course, I should add that I am not certified to screen for ASD. That is very much its own specialized skillset that I someday hope to acquire, but it was not part of my graduate coursework. If you were really my client, I'd help you find a screening site, and we could talk about what an ASD diagnosis may or may not mean for you.

That said, my sense is that there is a small but mighty ASD community nested within this one here on Literotica. Maybe start a thread and see if anyone wants to strike up a conversation with you? I'd be happy to dip in and out of that one, too, if there was a need for me. Hooray, psychology!

 

[burgwad]

Hooray, psychology!

[swoon]

UPDATE: Alright, I started an autism thread. Here’s hoping it goes well.

 

[MetaBob]

I wish I'd seen your offer before sending Valley Winter Loop to my publisher: my FMC has multiple issues and is supposed to be taking lots of medication for them, but finds that some meds make other issues worse, so is now flying without a net. Her issues?: She’s traumatized, bipolar, a sex addict with a short temper, insecure about her appearance (body dysmorphic?), and has a long-dormant multiple personality (dissociative identity) disorder. She desperately wants more control over her life after being dumped yet again, and wants to turn to female-led relationships as her last hope. I love the story that tumbles out, but despite a lot of reading to make as sure as I could about my depiction of her issues, I am no psychologist. Well, maybe an armchair psychologist, but aren't we all?

Anyway, if you wanted to read it and let me know what you think, I would of course be most appreciative.

As for advice on how to be a better writer, I offer my approach to editing the work of others: https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=92166492

 

[AchtungNight]

It occurred to me that the stories I mentioned earlier may be a bit long for you. Here’s a shorter one- https://literotica.com/s/will-trent-wake-up-angie

For context, a psychologist has given a dyslexic detective a script to read to wake up his on again off again sexual partner who’s in a coma. She has bipolar disorder and issues with sex addiction. The psychologist is sex positive and likes to fight addiction by making the sex better quality. The dyslexic narrator is having issues with his script.

 

[LittleLilyCanWrite]

I wish I'd seen your offer before sending Valley Winter Loop to my publisher: my FMC has multiple issues and is supposed to be taking lots of medication for them, but finds that some meds make other issues worse, so is now flying without a net. Her issues?: She’s traumatized, bipolar, a sex addict with a short temper, insecure about her appearance (body dysmorphic?), and has a long-dormant multiple personality (dissociative identity) disorder. She desperately wants more control over her life after being dumped yet again, and wants to turn to female-led relationships as her last hope. I love the story that tumbles out, but despite a lot of reading to make as sure as I could about my depiction of her issues, I am no psychologist. Well, maybe an armchair psychologist, but aren't we all?

Anyway, if you wanted to read it and let me know what you think, I would of course be most appreciative.

As for advice on how to be a better writer, I offer my approach to editing the work of others: https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=92166492

It honestly sounds like you did due diligence, especially just for a work pf erotica. How long is it? No promises (lots on my plate already) but I’m intrigued!

 

[MetaBob]

It honestly sounds like you did due diligence, especially just for a work pf erotica. How long is it? No promises (lots on my plate already) but I’m intrigued!

It's 71K words, so a short-ish novel. If you want to look at it, let me know and I will send it in any (well, most any) form you prefer. You could read as much, or as little, as you like.