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This was the exact impression that came across today with Reid, Pelosi, and Obama.
It's the tired old liberal mantra. Anyone who opposes them is stupid.
Look at the faces of Pelosi, Reid, slow Joe, and duh1 at the 1:35 mark when Lamar Alexander is asking them to renounce the use of reconcilation in passing health care reform.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VetLU6yoKxs&feature=player_embedded
(For those of you who don't want to watch, HR and NP look like busted school children, JB is cringing knowing he's busted, duh1 just looks pissed that someone would step to his excellency.)
Leaves no doubt what this was about and what they are (were) planning.
Why wouldn't they believe it?
So, the largest denier of claims is……hey, that awesome government run Medicare.
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/10/...ay-to-demonizing-private-insurance-companies/
They deny at the same rate as Aetna.
Nice spin though.
The truth is, Medicare covers old, decrepit people that need a lot of healthcare, a lot of procedures, and therefore doctors order a much higher rate of testing, have to test for a broader number of things, and are more cautious.
In contrast, Aetna, etc cover 1-year old healthy children all the way up to retirement. So it's not a good comparison at all.
Oh, and private insurance is free to deny all of your care. It's called dropping you - because you need too much help.
Or they might just deny your coverage outright from the start, refusing to enroll you. Conveniently your little bullshit partisan blog "forgot" to include dropping any denying coverage as a factor.
But yean nice bullshit, lying right-wing spin.
I hate to say it, but this wouldn't even be an issue if the Democrats hadn't been trying to be good little girls and boys and pass it through cloture in the first place. No one remembers the Bush tax cuts were "reconciled" through. They only knew that they did or didn't like them.
They deny at the same rate as Aetna.
Nice spin though.
The truth is, Medicare covers old, decrepit people that need a lot of healthcare, a lot of procedures, and therefore doctors order a much higher rate of testing, have to test for a broader number of things, and are more cautious.
In contrast, Aetna, etc cover 1-year old healthy children all the way up to retirement. So it's not a good comparison at all.
Oh, and private insurance is free to deny all of your care. It's called dropping you - because you need too much help.
Or they might just deny your coverage outright from the start, refusing to enroll you. Conveniently your little bullshit partisan blog "forgot" to include dropping any denying coverage as a factor.
But yean nice bullshit, lying right-wing spin.
They deny at the same rate as Aetna.
But yean nice bullshit, lying right-wing spin.
...and when they made good points about what they wanted, the President cut them off saying, "it's already in our legislation." Insulting their intelligence.
Government is free to deny you care as they do in England.
What happens to your government services when we go bankrupt like California or Greece?
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A_J, the Stupid
Budget, tax cuts, two versions passed...
What struck me yesterday was during the dog and pony show Harry Read, with his hushed scream tone, said nobody's talking about reconciliation other than the Republicans...
But not only do we have him on record talking about the process, but Obama ended the proceedings with a veiled threat about taking the process through reconciliation if the Republicans didn't cave.