Refugees

[Sean Renaud]

Because that would conflict with Islamic ass kissing.

Reality is there is a high probability of them sending folks in with the refugees, you can live in denial about it if you want....

No, because it conflicts with reality on every possible level. They may send some folks but it would be a fairly hilarious waste of time when there are easier and faster ways to get in.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, because it conflicts with reality on every possible level.

Really? Got anything to back that up? Show me the PROOF there isn't a single solitary radical islamist in the Syrian refugee population and I'll admit you and Col. ISIS lover are right and I was wrong as fuck.

Proof....

They may send some folks

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? I though that conflicts with reality on every possible level!

but it would be a fairly hilarious waste of time when there are easier and faster ways to get in.

But none with as much of string tugger or a cry for total lack of security because bleeding hearts as the fugees.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Really? Got anything to back that up? Show me the PROOF there isn't a single solitary radical islamist in the Syrian refugee population and I'll admit you and Col. ISIS lover are right and I was wrong as fuck.

Proof....

Don't need to. Your argument hinges on the concept that it is a gaurantee that there will be between 1-10 per hundred. If you can't be certain that it's not 11 or 0 you're argument falls apart. Because this isn't three card monty where the Queen IS one of the three cards and the hard part is finding her. This is craps and anybody who's been to Vegas can tell you that math don't really control dice in real life. Seriously though pull a quarter out of your pocket and tell me it's impossible to get heads twice in a row.

Additionally you have pretty damn low opinion of our screeners to catch them and our police in the nation to prevent an attack as well. If you're argument is we shouldn't bother trying that's fine. Stupid but at least I'd get it.

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? I though that conflicts with reality on every possible level!

Nope. They may send none. They may send all. MAybe Syria was just a ruse! There was never any civil war! They are all in it together, Putin, Assad, ISIS all set up this Trojan Horse so they could slip in and kill us all! Ignore it would have been simpler to just walk in the front door this is brilliant!

But none with as much of string tugger or a cry for total lack of security because bleeding hearts as the fugees.

But unless your end game was to isolate moderate Muslims so you could kill them all without any trouble from those pesky westerners it's just a stupid way to get in. You could learn Chess or League of Legends and come in an athlete Visa. You could learn a trade and come in on a worker Visa. You could just go touring (and tourists aren't immigrants as they do not intend to stay) and just fail to get back on your plane. None of which have as high odds of failure.

Basically you're argument is if ISIS wants you dead they'll challenge you to a game of Russian Roullette instead of just shooting me. You seem to think of them as mighty sporting fellows.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

None of what you said negates the probable ISIS threat within the Syrian refugee population. I hope they fill your neighborhood with the mother fuckers so YOU have to put up with all their fuckin' shit.

And there is not one thing about that "threat," either real or imagined, that is going to motivate YOU, ME or ANYONE ELSE to do one damn thing different on a daily basis to mitigate it, nor will you do anything different to reduce the far greater threats that endanger you every day. And that was MY point.

Don't even think about LYING about this. You're too much of a weasel. What do you do NOW about the radical Muslims who may be living down the street from you THIS VERY MINUTE?

Answer: NOTHING!!

So, if you're not pissing your pants about the terrorists who are likely here NOW, why are you so apoplectic about whoever shows up next? How much do you think the statistical probability of domestic terrorism INCREASES by 10,000 legal refugees entering this country? That's the WHOLE POINT, is it not? Do you have the mathematical skills to do that calculation?

And please don't tell us that if it's 1000th of 1% it's still not worth it. If you believed that crap, you'd believe in the efficacy of gun control, and only idiot liberals believe that.

Besides, I'm not the guy you want to whine to about "security" anyway. I'm the guy that said the government had every right to store your phone records without a warrant as long as they weren't listening to phone conversations without a warrant because the Supreme Court long ago had said the government clearly had that right to collect those records because they never belonged to you in the first place.

So I sure hope you weren't one of those fools who supported changing that law.

I'm also one of those guys who maintain that not every coercive physical or psychological interrogation technique of illegal combatants not covered by the Geneva protocols and captured in a combat theater constitute torture. So I hope you didn't support that hand-wringing nonsense either.

There are reasonable measures we can take to protect ourselves against terrorism. NONE of them are 100% foolproof.

One of them is NOT prohibiting legal immigration of ALL Muslims into this country.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Here is the problem.

People want to compare the average Muslim currently residing in the USA to the average Muslim in the Middle East.


There is no comparison.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Here is the problem.

People want to compare the average Muslim currently residing in the USA to the average Muslim in the Middle East.


There is no comparison.

You have no evidence that that is the problem because you have no evidence that is a comparison that any significant number of people, much less a majority, are actually making.

YOUR problem is that you cannot rationally explain why 1,400-year-old uncompromising Quranic directives have not been aggressively prosecuted in a continuous, systematic campaign against Western civilization prior to the past 25 or so years, or why a significant number of Muslims have OVERTLY REJECTED many of those specific directives, or at least the jihadist interpretation of them, for most of that same period of time -- other than to suggest that every one of those Muslims making that repudiation is simply lying.

And THAT is prima facie evidence of YOUR stupidity about what many Muslims actually BELIEVE.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

You have no evidence that that is the problem because you have no evidence that is a comparison that any significant number of people, much less a majority, are actually making.

YOUR problem is that you cannot rationally explain why 1,400-year-old uncompromising Quranic directives have not been aggressively prosecuted in a continuous, systematic campaign against Western civilization prior to the past 25 or so years, or why a significant number of Muslims have OVERTLY REJECTED many of those specific directives, or at least the jihadist interpretation of them, for most of that same period of time -- other than to suggest that every one of those Muslims making that repudiation is simply lying.

And THAT is prima facie evidence of YOUR stupidity about what many Muslims actually BELIEVE.

Well at least you used "significant" rather than majority. Shows you do have the ability to learn.

Other than that... Please tell me more about you Muslim friend from upstairs.

 

[PoppingTom]

Here is the problem.

People want to compare the average Muslim currently residing in the USA to the average Muslim in the Middle East.


There is no comparison.

How many muslims did you fucked in and outside of the US to make that judgement?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Don't need to. Your argument hinges on the concept that it is a gaurantee that there will be between 1-10 per hundred.

LMFAO no the fuck it doesn't you're just making shit up!

Basically you're argument is if ISIS wants you dead they'll challenge you to a game of Russian Roullette instead of just shooting me. You seem to think of them as mighty sporting fellows.

STILL making shit up....my argument is nothing of the sort.

My argument is that they pose an elevated security threat, so fuck em...fuck every single one of them.

And there is not one thing about that "threat," either real or imagined, that is going to motivate YOU, ME or ANYONE ELSE to do one damn thing different on a daily basis to mitigate it, nor will you do anything different to reduce the far greater threats that endanger you every day. And that was MY point.

To what end? Your point is pointless. None of that makes letting more in a good idea.

Don't even think about LYING about this. You're too much of a weasel. What do you do NOW about the radical Muslims who may be living down the street from you THIS VERY MINUTE?

Answer: NOTHING!!

I'm too much of a weasel? Lying because I'm such a big liar? LOL

And you're right nothing. Totally lying!!

So, if you're not pissing your pants about the terrorists who are likely here NOW, why are you so apoplectic about whoever shows up next?

Because they wanted Islam in charge...fuck America, the west and death to all infidels!! Ohhhh war mongering US needs to GET OUT of Iraq big fat meanies!!

AND THEY GOT IT! EU fart sniffers, the DNC, all the precious Muslim nations who begged us to get out got EXACTLY what they asked for and they need to EAT every fucking bite of that shit sandwich.

How much do you think the statistical probability of domestic terrorism INCREASES by 10,000 legal refugees entering this country? That's the WHOLE POINT, is it not? Do you have the mathematical skills to do that calculation?

Pretty slim I would imagine. And nope being a biologist statistics were not needed, so I didn't.

The whole point is to increase the chances of terrorism? Sounds like that's what you and the lefties all want....maybe it is.

And please don't tell us that if it's 1000th of 1% it's still not worth it. If you believed that crap, you'd believe in the efficacy of gun control, and only idiot liberals believe that.

I don't believe that crap. I think it's not worth it because we have plenty of poor non English speaking/reading folks right here already. We don't need to start importing them from the other side of the planet from places that REALLY hate us with a passion. There is ZERO good for us in that deal.

Besides, I'm not the guy you want to whine to about "security" anyway. I'm the guy that said the government had every right to store your phone records without a warrant as long as they weren't listening to phone conversations without a warrant because the Supreme Court long ago had said the government clearly had that right to collect those records because they never belonged to you in the first place.

So I sure hope you weren't one of those fools who supported changing that law.

Nope, never really cared. I've always been a firm believer that if you don't want the public to know about something you don't digitize it.

I'm also one of those guys who maintain that not every coercive physical or psychological interrogation technique of illegal combatants not covered by the Geneva protocols and captured in a combat theater constitute torture. So I hope you didn't support that hand-wringing nonsense either.

Seriously? I'm the evil fuck who would just call the Kurds...they love doing dirty work and they get results.

There are reasonable measures we can take to protect ourselves against terrorism. NONE of them are 100% foolproof.

I never said any were 100%

Just that telling Syrians along with folks from a number of other Islamic whackadoodle hives to fuck off to the back of our immigrant priority list is a reasonable measure.

One of them is NOT prohibiting legal immigration of ALL Muslims into this country.

I never said we should prohibit legal immigration of ALL Muslims into this country....ya fucking lunatic.

 

[RobDownSouth]

STILL making shit up....my argument is nothing of the sort.

My argument is that they pose an elevated security threat, so fuck em...fuck every single one of them.

Oh NOES! Elevated Threat Levels!

They constitute a clear 'n present danger coz of their faith?

That's nothing more than religious bigotry.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

How many muslims did you fucked in and outside of the US to make that judgement?

None inside.

Outside.... Depends on your definition of fucked.

 

[putzpotus]

Oh NOES! Elevated Threat Levels!

They constitute a clear 'n present danger coz of their faith?

That's nothing more than religious bigotry.

yes, cause of ISLAM

its FACT and REALITY

and you are a disease as bad as they are

 

[BotanyBoy]

Oh NOES! Elevated Threat Levels!

Well....do you let 8x convicted violent offenders fresh outta the pen couch surf until they get a job? Give them keys do you?

Yea I didn't think so....it's a stupid fucking idea isn't it?

They constitute a clear 'n present danger coz of their faith?

That's nothing more than religious bigotry.

Oh look, Rob's on a role of making shit up to suck Syrian cock!!

It's not just their religion, it's the location and culture too. Indonesians aren't a problem, they don't get on TV and declare war on the US in the name of Allah and send people to try to kill as many Americans as possible. You can't say that about Syria.

Being wary of a bunch of people that hate me and my culture, sent thousands of their loved ones to Iraq to try and kill as many Americans as they could so ISIS could run things, in the name of their god are suddenly wanting to hang out means I'm a bigot?

So be it.....I call it not having my head up my ass.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yes, your argument does hinge on that. The argument you are defending is

"Would you eat a bag of 100 peanuts if you knew one would kill you. KNOW is an important word. If you eat all 100 you will die. No ifs ands for buts. IF there is a 1% chance you'd eat them all and live your argument is false. Sorry.

And an elevated threat by comparison to what precisely?

 

[oggbashan]

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It's not just their religion, it's the location and culture too. Indonesians aren't a problem, they don't get on TV and declare war on the US in the name of Allah and send people to try to kill as many Americans as possible. You can't say that about Syria.

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Are you forgetting the Bali bombings?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2012/10/10/bali-bombings-full-list-victims-names

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Bali_bombings

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yes, your argument does hinge on that. The argument you are defending is

"Would you eat a bag of 100 peanuts if you knew one would kill you. KNOW is an important word. If you eat all 100 you will die. No ifs ands for buts. IF there is a 1% chance you'd eat them all and live your argument is false. Sorry.

And an elevated threat by comparison to what precisely?

Ok you're right...you got me!

Compared to an immigrant/fugees from a country that doesn't hate and want to destroy the USA.

Are you forgetting the Bali bombings?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2012/10/10/bali-bombings-full-list-victims-names

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Bali_bombings

No I just don't give a shit about what goes on in their country. As long as it stays in their country it's their bidnizz.

They aren't openly hostile and there weren't thousands and thousands of Indonesians taking their best shots at our military....or I'd be saying fuck Indonesia and Syria.

 

[oggbashan]

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No I just don't give a shit about what goes on in their country. As long as it stays in their country it's their bidnizz.

They aren't openly hostile and there weren't thousands and thousands of Indonesians taking their best shots at our military....or I'd be saying fuck Indonesia and Syria.

Even when they killed American citizens?

Killed in 2002 bombing:

US 7

Megan Eileen Heffernan
Deborah Lea Snodgrass
Karri Jane Casner
George Hamilton Milligan
Robert Alan McCormick II
Steven Brooks Webster
Jacob Cardwell Young

As for taking their best shots at US military?

Wouldn't YOU take your best shots against any army invading your country?

 

[toubab]

44 Percent Of Democrats Support Taking Refugees From A Fictional Country

http://www.wparesearch.com/issues/4...tional-country/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss



"Washington, DC – Public Policy Polling, which is known for adding questions in surveys to exploit Republicans who are less informed, recently found that 30% of Republican voters would support bombing Agrabah, a fictional country in the Disney film Aladdin. On December 20, 2015, WPA Research fielded a national survey of 1,132 registered voters that found 44% of Democrats would support taking refugees from that same Agrabah. PPP may have proven that some Republicans will support bombing a fictional country, but fully 44% of Democrats will allow refugees from anywhere into the country, whether they are potential ISIS supporters from Syria or potential cartoon characters on a magic carpet ride.

Would you support or oppose allowing refugees from Agrabah to be re-settled in the United States?
Democrats
Support 44%
Indifferent 28%
Oppose 27%

Young Democrats

Additionally, Democrats ages 18-34, a key constituency of President Obama, are especially eager to take in imaginary refugees.
Nearly two-thirds of these voters support accepting refugees from Agrabah.
This is particularly suprising given this generation grew up watching Disney films such as Aladdin.

Democrats ages 18-34
Support 66%
Indifferent 12%
Oppose 22%"

The bad thing about democracy, or anything approaching democracy, is fools get to vote.

 

[Saint Peter]

http://www.wparesearch.com/issues/4...tional-country/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss

About Wilson Perkins Allen Opinion Research

Since 1998, WPA Research has been a leading provider of political polling for campaigns from President to Governor and U.S. Senate to Mayor and City Council in all 50 states and several foreign countries. In the 2013-2014 election cycle, 83% of WPA clients won, compared to 62% of GOP candidates in those same states. WPA clients’ win ratio has exceeded the standard by double digits for four straight political cycles.

WPA Research has been nationally recognized for providing cutting edge research to help our clients win. The American Association of Political Consultants (AAPC) awarded a “Pollie” to WPA Research for our Predictive Analytics and Adaptive Sampling techniques. The award highlighted these advanced methodologies which allowed us to buck national GOP polling trends and deliver industry-leading results.

Smells like ass.

 

[PoppingTom]

It's not just their religion, it's the location and culture too. Indonesians aren't a problem, they don't get on TV and declare war on the US in the name of Allah and send people to try to kill as many Americans as possible. You can't say that about Pakistan .

Being wary of a bunch of people that hate me and my culture, sent thousands of their loved ones to Iraq to try and kill as many Americans as they could so ISIS could run things, in the name of their god are suddenly wanting to hang out means I'm a bigot? .

/fixed


And yes, when it comes to Syrians, you're a bigot

 

[toubab]

Smells like ass.

I find both polls believable. Anyone who doubts huge numbers of fools vote D or R is delusional.

 

[allateup]

/fixed


And yes, when it comes to Syrians, you're a bigot

Yeah, definitely, no man is better than you, the stereotype nigger from Newark.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=66527083&postcount=285

.....

 

[Aella_]

I see that eyer's dropping Christmass goodies in every thread.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Even when they killed American citizens?

As for taking their best shots at US military?

Wouldn't YOU take your best shots against any army invading your country?

If some Americans get their card punched because they were over in some other country where they shouldn't have been that's their problem. I don't go vaycay in shitholes for a reason.

We did not invade Syria....they sent thousands of people to Iraq to fight Americans because Syria and it's people fucking HATE the west and Americans.

/fixed


And yes, when it comes to Syrians, you're a bigot

What is it with your hard on for Pakistanis? They aren't even a topic of conversation you fucking moron. You keep trying to make Syrians look better because Pakistan!! and it's not working you dumb ass Nazi piece of shit.

I'm not a bigot against Syrians, because I would treat anyone who has openly declared their hatred for my nation/culture and conducted numerous violent attacks and acts of war against my nation/people exactly the same way with the exact same sentiment.

Fuck them and everyone around them....kill them all.

 

[oggbashan]

If some Americans get their card punched because they were over in some other country where they shouldn't have been that's their problem. I don't go vaycay in shitholes for a reason.

We did not invade Syria....they sent thousands of people to Iraq to fight Americans because Syria and it's people fucking HATE the west and Americans. Indonesia did not, Egypt did not, Yemen did not ect ect.



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The border between Syria and Iraq was an artifical construct by the French and British. The local tribes and religious groupings do not recognise it as valid. To them that border is irrelevant as a utility board's regional area boundary.