Republican Convention

[RjThoughts]

Journalism ethics 101:

The journalist should do his/her best to obtain information from all possible sources, to make sure it is complete, truthful and unbiased. Information which may offend or humiliate a person should be checked especially carefully.

Could you send this off to Fox News, please? The only one on there that seems to understand it is Sheppard Smith, and even he's pushed it a few times.

 

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[mercury14]

Journalism ethics 101:

The journalist should do his/her best to obtain information from all possible sources, to make sure it is complete, truthful and unbiased. Information which may offend or humiliate a person should be checked especially carefully.

And he doesn't claim to be an objective journalist. Again, where's the masquerade?

 

[mercury14]

Could you send this off to Fox News, please? The only one on there that seems to understand it is Sheppard Smith, and even he's pushed it a few times.

Fox News' conservative bias is okay because its conservative.

 

[koalabear]

Fox News' conservative bias is okay because its conservative.

Says the Soros tumble bug.

 

[Recidiva]

The benefit of the news sources, blogs and constant information is that you have plenty of opportunities to get a bigger picture.

However, there are those who only want a small picture and they're free to have their views forced and reinforced.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Actually you responded to his refutation that there wasn't any negativity directed at Obama.

Both he and I made a different point that it sounded as though Christie was giving his speech for a run in 2016 more than as an endorsement of Romney for 2012 president.

Funny how you missed BOTH of those posts and focused more on "defending" the speeches of last night.

You know, for a guy who wanted to know other people's opinions, it sure doesn't come across that way.

Ok....

I do not think his speech was a run for 2016.
Do you think his speech was not some what handled by the Romney team?

When I first hear he would speak I assumed he would be the "attach dog".
That was the most lame attach dog speech I have ever heard.

I am guessing all speeches were toned down for the simple fact they want to claim the high ground against Obama and the overall negative tone his campaign has taken...

 

[zipman]

Ok....

I do not think his speech was a run for 2016.
Do you think his speech was not some what handled by the Romney team?

When I first hear he would speak I assumed he would be the "attach dog".
That was the most lame attach dog speech I have ever heard.

I am guessing all speeches were toned down for the simple fact they want to claim the high ground against Obama and the overall negative tone his campaign has taken...

No, I don't think the speech was handled by the Romney team. If it was, wow did they fail miserably at their job. The topic of telling the truth would be a bizarre focal point as Romney has either hid the truth (his tax records) or flip-flopped so much on issues that the truth is not able to be defined.

Speaking the truth is more about what defines Christie, not republicans or Romney. That's why I think it was priming the pump for 2016.

I think the speech may have been toned down due to Hurricane Issac, that is a possibility.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Could you send this off to Fox News, please? The only one on there that seems to understand it is Sheppard Smith, and even he's pushed it a few times.

Fox is right to the same degree CNN is left. MSNBC is another planet.

Finding a truly unbiased reporter is tough today.

Chris M. is so biased he has lost his ability to even be called a Journalist IMO..

 

[VaticanAssassin]

fucking iphone!

 

[RjThoughts]

Fox is right to the same degree CNN is left. MSNBC is another planet.

Finding a truly unbiased reporter is tough today.

Chris M. is so biased he has lost his ability to even be called a Journalist IMO..

Chicken Noodle News is left? Seriously? And that's not being sarcastic. They have left, right, middle people. The rich boy Anderson Cooper - yes, his mom is a Vanderbilt - is as central as there has been in years.

 

[RjThoughts]

fucking iphone!

How much was that app and when will it come to Android?

 

[zipman]

Fox is right to the same degree CNN is left. MSNBC is another planet.

Finding a truly unbiased reporter is tough today.

Chris M. is so biased he has lost his ability to even be called a Journalist IMO..

CNN is left center.

FOX operates as the propaganda arm of the right wing.

Huge difference.

 

[Recidiva]

CNN is left center.

FOX operates as the propaganda arm of the right wing.

Huge difference.

CNN to me is...hand wringing. It appears left because of the hand wringing, but I don't think that's bias so much as not really understanding why people aren't watching. They do their best to just put anybody with any viewpoint and no critical filter on one side of the screen while someone with the equal and opposite dumbass opinion sits on the other side of the screen. They nod a lot. They do not wish to offend or ask questions in general. Just let rambling crap fill up 24 hours.

Fox is a reaction to NPR and PBS.

MSNBC jumped on the Fox bandwagon.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

No, I don't think the speech was handled by the Romney team. If it was, wow did they fail miserably at their job. The topic of telling the truth would be a bizarre focal point as Romney has either hid the truth (his tax records) or flip-flopped so much on issues that the truth is not able to be defined.

Speaking the truth is more about what defines Christie, not republicans or Romney. That's why I think it was priming the pump for 2016.

I think the speech may have been toned down due to Hurricane Issac, that is a possibility.

So you think Obamas team will let Bill Clinton up there with out having had reviewed his speech and having some input?

I just do not see it....

I will occasionally bring a broker from another firm in with me to see my clients. Typically brokers who sell shit I do not deal with like AON and their medical crap.

I sure as hell do not let them come in with some PP I have not reviewed. I tell them the message I wantt to convey and have them put it in my format.

Not just because I not not trust the fuckers but I want a clear and "on the same page" pitch for the client. It is my client and my relationship on the line.

Then I take a chunk of their commissions for the intro...

 

[VaticanAssassin]

How much was that app and when will it come to Android?

Hold on while I ask Siri

 

[RjThoughts]

CNN to me is...hand wringing. It appears left because of the hand wringing, but I don't think that's bias so much as not really understanding why people aren't watching. They do their best to just put anybody with any viewpoint and no critical filter on one side of the screen while someone with the equal and opposite dumbass opinion sits on the other side of the screen. They nod a lot. They do not wish to offend or ask questions in general. Just let rambling crap fill up 24 hours.

Fox is a reaction to NPR and PBS.

MSNBC jumped on the Fox bandwagon.

PBS is so liberal...Yeah Cookie Monster and Big Bird are indoctrinating the childrens of the world into the socialist/communist/Kenyan/anti-white/rich-is-bad way of thinking.

Mr Rogers was more communist than Mao!!

*serious teenager eyeroll*

 

[CHNOPS]

Fox is right to the same degree CNN is left. MSNBC is another planet.

Finding a truly unbiased reporter is tough today.

Chris M. is so biased he has lost his ability to even be called a Journalist IMO..

Again, you think this because you yourself are far enough right not to realize how far right FOX News is. MSNBC exists on the left as a direct and intentional response to FOX's position on the right. They both suck for the same reason.

CNN is lousy, and clearly leans left, but that's not the source of their lousiness, nor their biggest sin. By contrast, FOX and MSNBC's biggest sin is their partisanship.

Whoever said "we just never noticed new sources' biases before" is not quite right. Newspapers used to be overtly partisan, even so far as carrying ideologies in their names. As papers folded, and most cities became one-paper towns, the had to move center to capture market. That shift has continued, not reversed. As it has not yet happened to cable news, the sources are able to vie for markets in explicitly partisan terms, with several (CNN among them) hoping/claiming/aiming/preteending to serve the "middle."

 

[VaticanAssassin]

PBS is so liberal...Yeah Cookie Monster and Big Bird are indoctrinating the childrens of the world into the socialist/communist/Kenyan/anti-white/rich-is-bad way of thinking.

Mr Rogers was more communist than Mao!!

*serious teenager eyeroll*

I actually watched the PBS coverage of the convention....

Thought they did a ok job.

 

[zipman]

So you think Obamas team will let Bill Clinton up there with out having had reviewed his speech and having some input?

I just do not see it....

I will occasionally bring a broker from another firm in with me to see my clients. Typically brokers who sell shit I do not deal with like AON and their medical crap.

I sure as hell do not let them come in with some PP I have not reviewed. I tell them the message I wantt to convey and have them put it in my format.

Not just because I not not trust the fuckers but I want a clear and "on the same page" pitch for the client. It is my client and my relationship on the line.

Then I take a chunk of their commissions for the intro...

In which case they completely screwed the pooch.

If the democrats were smart, they would take up Christie's plea to tell the truth and ask Romney for his tax returns again.

See? Massive fail.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Again, you think this because you yourself are far enough right not to realize how far right FOX News is. MSNBC exists on the left as a direct and intentional response to FOX's position on the right. They both suck for the same reason.

CNN is lousy, and clearly leans left, but that's not the source of their lousiness, nor their biggest sin. By contrast, FOX and MSNBC's biggest sin is their partisanship.

Whoever said "we just never noticed new sources' biases before" is not quite right. Newspapers used to be overtly partisan, even so far as carrying ideologies in their names. As papers folded, and most cities became one-paper towns, the had to move center to capture market. That shift has continued, not reversed. As it has not yet happened to cable news, the sources are able to vie for markets in explicitly partisan terms, with several (CNN among them) hoping/claiming/aiming/preteending to serve the "middle."

Fair enough. But to think you are above it is bullshit. Your are far enough left not to realize how left CNN is. Not one shred of difference there....

 

[RjThoughts]

I actually watched the PBS coverage of the convention....

Thought they did a ok job.

I remember when William F Buckley was part of the PBS convention coverage, back in the 80s. He and another person, one representing the opposing view, would argue gentilly, but God, I needed a freaking dictionary!!!

 

[VaticanAssassin]

In which case they completely screwed the pooch.

If the democrats were smart, they would take up Christie's plea to tell the truth and ask Romney for his tax returns again.

See? Massive fail.

Actually if the were smart they would tackle the hard decisions crap...

Hard decsions...like cutting Medicaid
hard descions.... like cutting SS
Hard descions...like pushing grandma over the cliff

 

[BotanyBoy]

Again, you think this because you yourself are far enough right not to realize how far right FOX News is. MSNBC exists on the left as a direct and intentional response to FOX's position on the right. They both suck for the same reason.

CNN is lousy, and clearly leans left, but that's not the source of their lousiness, nor their biggest sin. By contrast, FOX and MSNBC's biggest sin is their partisanship.

Whoever said "we just never noticed new sources' biases before" is not quite right. Newspapers used to be overtly partisan, even so far as carrying ideologies in their names. As papers folded, and most cities became one-paper towns, the had to move center to capture market. That shift has continued, not reversed. As it has not yet happened to cable news, the sources are able to vie for markets in explicitly partisan terms, with several (CNN among them) hoping/claiming/aiming/preteending to serve the "middle."

I agree with you on everything but the bold bit. It all depends on what town said paper is pandering to. I assure you the 1 paper town in Alabama is no closer center than the 1 paper town in say northern CA. It's not to say genuinely sane news media doesn't exist...but it's hard to find, rare and usually corrupted quickly through cash.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

I remember when William F Buckley was part of the PBS convention coverage, back in the 80s. He and another person, one representing the opposing view, would argue gentilly, but God, I needed a freaking dictionary!!!

yep...they still try to come off all intellectual and shit. ends up being a bit pompous...