Republican women, remember, you asked for it!

[Ham Murabi]

Holy shit. I can't believe I am siding with those assholes Scalia and Thomas.

Partial birth abortion should repulse people who have any respect at all for life. The very idea of crushing the head of an infant ready to take its first breath is sickening.

 

[Never]

I'm not a Republican, but partial term abortions are pretty fucked up. I have little problem with a twelve-week window for abortions.

 

[KinkyDaisy]

I dont believe you can argue that a pre 12 gestational week medical or surgical abortion is the same animal as a partial birth abortion.

The procedure is barbaric .. i doubt most dems or pro-choice proponents would condone its widespread use.

 

[jhuson]

Partial birth abortion should repulse people who have any respect at all for life. The very idea of crushing the head of an infant ready to take its first breath is sickening.

I'm pro-choice but the procedure described is wrong.

I am fine with abortions in the first trimester though.

 

[Sean]

Anyone got a link to the full opinions? Maj and min plz, thx.

 

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[yevkassem72]

Holy shit. I can't believe I am siding with those assholes Scalia and Thomas.

Me, neither. I'm no fan of the institution of government, but if it must exist, it can at least save human lives.

 

[Sean]

Check this:

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&navby=case&vol=000&invol=05-380

I should bookmark that bloody site, CJ has linked me about a dozen times. Thanks.

 

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[garbage can]

Rather than be worried about the five who supported the law, I'm more concerned with the four justices who think the above procedure is OK.

Agreed. I can't imagine anyone supporting the partial birth abortion procedure.

For anyone with an unwanted pregnancy, there is plenty of time to abort.

 

[Sean]

Agreed. I can't imagine anyone supporting the partial birth abortion procedure.

For anyone with an unwanted pregnancy, there is plenty of time to abort.

You're an idiot. The court didn't rule on the morality of the procedure, they ruled on the LAW.

 

[busybody..]

The reactions of the Presidential contenders are in

The DIMZ expressed dismay that BABIES SKULLS wont be crushed and their remains sucked out and thrown in the garbage!


The Repoz agreed with the decision


DIMZ=Death to Babies

REPOZ=Keep hope and Babies alive

 

[busybody..]

This sez it all. DIMZ party of MURDER and DEATH!

HILLARY: 'Erosion of our constitutional rights'...
GIULIANI: 'I agree with it'...
OBAMA: 'I strongly disagree'...
ROMNEY: 'A step forward'...
MCCAIN: I'm very happy...
EDWARDS: 'I could not disagree more strongly'...

 

[Ishmael]

Well LT, looking at the post list it appears that not too many women, Republican or not, give a shit. And that shouldn't surprise you in that poll after poll shows that only about 30% of americans, all americans, support third tri-mester abortions anyway.

You picked a real loser here, loser.

Ishmael

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Partial birth abortion should repulse people who have any respect at all for life. The very idea of crushing the head of an infant ready to take its first breath is sickening.

It might shock you to know that I'm with you on that part.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Well LT, looking at the post list it appears that not too many women, Republican or not, give a shit. And that shouldn't surprise you in that poll after poll shows that only about 30% of americans, all americans, support third tri-mester abortions anyway.

You picked a real loser here, loser.

Ishmael

That's not my point. You'll never find me being able to tolerate PBA. I can barely stomach D&C. That's just wrong as hell, but PBA is fucking barbaric to the max.

It's what comes next that Republican women will have to deal with - the threat of an outright abortion ban.

This Supreme Court may very well "Give 'em Five".

 

[busybody..]

Hey LT

Study the STATS

Who is likely to have abortions?

Dimz and Coloreds!

Repoh women dont!

So they have nothing to worry about

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Hey LT

Study the STATS

Who is likely to have abortions?

Dimz and Coloreds!

Repoh women dont!

So they have nothing to worry about

Show me the stats. There are plenty of abortions in red states.

I've VOLUNTEERED at crisis pregnancy centers - have you? I see them now complaining about "pro-life" protestors getting abortions on the down low.

But once again I'll say, PBA's are utterly barbaric and I'm glad to see them go. It's the inevitable D-Dayesque push for an out and out abortion ban that will come next, and I'm not so sure women in general will go for that. (Hint: they'll have your heads on a stick and I don't want to be in town for that party.)

 

[Ham Murabi]

It might shock you to know that I'm with you on that part.

Doesn't shock me at all. I think if more people have a firm understanding about what partial birth abortion is, support for it would drop to about 10 percent.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Doesn't shock me at all. I think if more people have a firm understanding about what partial birth abortion is, support for it would drop to about 10 percent.

I don't cower in fear of pro-choicers any more than I fear you clinic bombing nutballs.

As far as I'm concerned, both points of view are hypocritical, cowardly and irresponsible.

Pro-lifers talk about killing doctors in the name of life... now if that's not a contradiction then what is? They - and I am talking right at you, hambone - are all about saving the baby and then leaving it to starve or die of health issues afterwards if their mom is too poor to pay for care. And when the baby dies all you have to say is "She shouldn't have had her." Well fucking whoopy-duh, that's what abortion was for, ya moron. If men got pregnant, we wouldn't be having this discussion: it would be free, legal and nanotech precise, complete with rock and roll music and beating mandrums. Oogabooga. You men don't care about the baby - you care only about controlling women and coddling your sense of outrage. And as for cowardice, what have you done to save a baby? How many pregnant women have you helped? My wife and I do enough stuff for pregnant women that it would take weeks to enumerate it on here. When have you lifted a finger? We're trying to adopt a sibling for our baby daughter. There's a waiting list a mile long for a baby. How about you? Have you done it?

As for the pro-choicers... well, hell, any time someone says they're pro-choice, I say what if their mother had access to a free abortion? Let's go back in time and give them free access if they weren't. 9 times out of 10 I'm guaranteed to get an "Oh God, not me, not me!" out of them. Hypocrisy. Pro-choicers are also cowards. The baby has to take the blame and die for the mother's woes. That's the height of cowardice, killing someone else to make your life easier, especially someone who can't even fight back. Calling a fetus a "lump of cells" is ridiculously stupid. I won't even fucking go there.

But by outlawing abortions you do realize you stand to potentially see a lot of women dying, right? That's because you want to do absolutely nothing to alleviate the economic and social pressures that crash on top of a pregnant woman's head. It's like being hit with a comet, it's the end of the world for some of these women. Sometimes they lose all respect and even their livelihood. Single mothers, oh hell let's not even get into that. Then there's the deadbeat dads.


Come back to me with a law that says if abortion is outlawed, the man who fathered the baby is held to child support, unconditionally, and tell me you've stopped shitting on the needs of new mothers and poor families' babies, and maybe... just maybe... I'll consider listening. Right now I don't respect either side and you know what? I'm neither in favor of abortion rights nor abortion restrictions. Yeah, really. I don't see any resolution that doesn't result in the tragedy of someone's rights being lost.

<rant off>

 

[crazybbwgirl]

Hey LT
Study the STATS
Who is likely to have abortions?
Dimz and Coloreds!
Repoh women dont!
So they have nothing to worry about

Again I say... any rich women can have that procedure done and her doctor would call it a D&C. That way it never shows up in any abortion stats.

 

[busybody..]

as regard sthis issue

here is something that is BEYOND comprehension and shows what the Dimz really are

HARRY REID ON THE SUPREME COURT'S ABORTION RULING:


Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) was among those who denounced yesterday's Supreme Court ruling upholding the Federal Partial Birth Abortion Act. Commenting on the decision, Reid said "A lot of us wish that Alito weren't there and O'Connor were there," indicating his desire that there has been a fifth vote to invalidate the statute, as Justice O'Connor had provided the fifth vote to invalidate Nebraska's partial-birth abortion ban in Stenberg v. Carhart.

What is curious about Reid's statement, as NPR and some news outlets have noted, is not Reid's criticism of Alito -- Reid opposed Alito's confirmation -- but the fact that Reid supported, and voted for, the federal statute upheld in yesterday's decision. . . .

So, despite his repeated support of legislative restrictions on abortion, Reid's latest comment suggests that he believes the Supreme Court's decision was regrettable and wrongly decided, and that a law that he supported is unconstitutional. To me, the latter is of greater concern. Call me old fashioned, but I believe that if a member of the Senate believes a law is unconstitutional, he or she should vote against it.


As noted, however, Reid is hardly alone in this regard. This kind of thing may explain why Congress's approval numbers are so low.

 

[Plasmaball]

I don't have a problem with it for these reasons from the article quoted:

The procedure at issue involves partially removing the fetus intact from a woman's uterus, then crushing or cutting its skull to complete the abortion.

There are alternate, more widely used procedures that remain legal.

An alternate method—dismembering the fetus in the uterus—is available and, indeed, much more common.

I know some adults who could use this treatment

 

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