Republicans immediately begin playing games with Social Security

[BotanyBoy]

Absolutely! The American left learned well from the Nazis and the Communists, the value of the Big Lie technique.

Nazi's are leftist?

LMFAO!!! Just when I think you couldn't be any dumber......

 

[domroger]

Nazi's are leftist?

LMFAO!!! Just when I think you couldn't be any dumber......

They are compared with his wing of the GOP .

 

[Que]

Nazi's are leftist?

LMFAO!!! Just when I think you couldn't be any dumber......

If "Fox News learned from the Nazis and the Communists the value of the big lie" that would not make Nazis or Communists Fox News employees.

I think you missed something rhetorically there.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That's the implication that Vette is attempting to go with here though.

 

[PoppingTom]

Absolutely! The American left learned well from the Nazis and the Communists, the value of the Big Lie technique.

"Those who never lied, may throw the first stone........except.........the one is republican!"

 

[Que]

That's the implication that Vette is attempting to go with here though.

Why?

Did you have another example of a regime fueled by heavy use of propaganda which is the way our increasingly uninformed society is going?

It seemed apt to me, given that our current regime sold the signature achievement with a series of purposeful, rather bold lies.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Why?

Did you have another example of a regime fueled by heavy use of propaganda which is the way our increasingly uninformed society is going?

It seemed apt to me, given that our current regime sold the signature achievement with a series of purposeful, rather bold lies.

Except it didn't. The only lie they told was one they were called out about at the time and it's a semantic issue.

Obama's been shitty at propaganda but who cares both sides do it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I think you missed something rhetorically there.

I don't think I did, I think vettey actually thinks Nazis are/were leftist.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I don't think I did, I think vettey actually thinks Nazis are/were leftist.

Vetty has worked tirelessly for literally years attempting to conflate librulism with Nazism, Queerbait's rationalizations to the contrary notwithstanding.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Except it didn't. The only lie they told was one they were called out about at the time and it's a semantic issue.

Obama's been shitty at propaganda but who cares both sides do it.

"If you like your present medical insurance plan, you can keep it. Period!"

"Those were just some demonstrators who were angry about a videotape."

 

[Sean Renaud]

"If you like your present medical insurance plan, you can keep it. Period!"

"Those were just some demonstrators who were angry about a videotape."

The first statement wasn't a lie, not every statement that turns out to be false is a lie. And the second statement wasn't made.

 

[Boxlicker101]

The first statement wasn't a lie, not every statement that turns out to be false is a lie. And the second statement wasn't made.

I'm paraphrasing.

The first statement absolutely was a lie and merited the maximum number of Pinnochios. Millions of people had to give up their existing medical insurance and subscribe to Obamacare.

The second statement was made, if not by Obama, then by one of his minions on Sunday morning talk shows, and was also a lie. He and Susan Rice and many others were well aware the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi was planned well in advance.

 

[Que]

I don't think I did, I think vettey actually thinks Nazis are/were leftist.

You can think that he thinks that; it can even be true that he thinks that, but that sentence construction does not say that. It does not even imply that.

They only way you get from point A to point B is noting that the word "left" and the word "nazi" is in that sentence and adding the words to make your own sentence.

In short:

~Spidey mode~

"He didn't say that."

 

[Sean Renaud]

What other possible way could you take that sentence Query?

I'm paraphrasing.

The first statement absolutely was a lie and merited the maximum number of Pinnochios. Millions of people had to give up their existing medical insurance and subscribe to Obamacare.

The second statement was made, if not by Obama, then by one of his minions on Sunday morning talk shows, and was also a lie. He and Susan Rice and many others were well aware the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi was planned well in advance.

I don't care how many Pinnocichios it got, the fact is that a statement that turns out to be false is not by definition a lie. I do wish Obama had bothered to parse his words much better there but whatever.

The second statement as we uncover more it seems like we didn't give the video nearly enough credit. The two statements are not mutually exclusive. Right now I'm sure there are thousands of plans by various terrorists to attack everything from the White House to our consulates that have been planned in great detail and if they magically find themselves in an opportunity where things are going on to use as cover they will.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Vetty has worked tirelessly for literally years attempting to conflate librulism with Nazism, Queerbait's rationalizations to the contrary notwithstanding.

I'm pretty sure that was one of the first things he put me on iggy for....was snapping that stupid of at the base.

You can think that he thinks that; it can even be true that he thinks that,

Pretty sure he's hellbent on "Socialist" is in the title that means not GOP which means in vettey terms they are leftist communist socialist!!

LOL vettey is so die hard RW he calls Nazi's liburhulz LMFAO.

but that sentence construction does not say that. It does not even imply that.

No one is saying it does.

They only way you get from point A to point B is noting that the word "left" and the word "nazi" is in that sentence and adding the words to make your own sentence.

In short:

~Spidey mode~

"He didn't say that."

No one is saying he did...and you left out the vettey factor in that equation, which means that's exactly what he said.

 

[Dumpington]

ObamaCare

2009 Affordable Health Care Act architect Jonathan Gruber made it pretty clear that ObamaCare was passed because of a multitude of lies told to the American people by the president and the leaders of his party.

The result was huge losses for Democrats nationwide in last November's elections.

Those are the facts.

 

[PoppingTom]

2009 Affordable Health Care Act architect Jonathan Gruber made it pretty clear that ObamaCare was passed because of a multitude of lies told to the American people by the president and the leaders of his party.

The result was huge losses for Democrats nationwide in last November's elections.

Those are the facts.

The best thing on the internet are people calling their opinions facts.

 

[Dumpington]

Popping Tom says: "The best thing on the internet are people calling their opinions facts."

So you're saying that the 2014 election results were actually GOOD for President Obama & the Democrats?

Well, that is a relief, because those liars at the FOX News Channel were reporting that the Democrats got their asses kicked!

 

[PoppingTom]

So you're saying that the 2014 election results were actually GOOD for President Obama & the Democrats?

No, I say they don't have anything to do with the president's actions.

 

[Dumpington]

Obama

Popping Tom --- I think that we can all agree that the Democrats got their collective asses kicked two months ago, and that President Obama and his policies were mostly to blame.

His administration has the corruption of Richard Nixon, the foreign-policy incompetence of Jimmy Carter, and the appeasement-of-evil exhibited by British Prime minister Neville Chamberlain back in 1938.

America's got an exceptionally weak president right now, and if stating that fact makes me a bigot in your eyes then so be it.

 

[PoppingTom]

Popping Tom --- I think that we can all agree that the Democrats got their collective asses kicked two months ago, and that President Obama and his policies were mostly to blame.

No, we can't.

Yes, democrats lost their majority. And it's not good for the president. That's all there is.

America's got an exceptionally weak president right now...

Who cares? American presidents were always weak.

 

[phrodeau]

I'm paraphrasing.

The first statement absolutely was a lie and merited the maximum number of Pinnochios. Millions of people had to give up their existing medical insurance and subscribe to Obamacare.

They had to give up their insurance? Or they didn't want to keep paying inflated rates? Or their third-rate insurance company had to shutter?

How many millions? What demographics did they fit into? How many personal stories turned out to be genuine?

I've asked these questions before and heard bupkis.

 

[unregistered]

 

[phrodeau]

Yeah, it's a big circle. Vetteman is in the center, and everybody else is as far away from him as they can get.

 

[unregistered]