Republicans locking Democrats out of the process

[adrina]

70 years of progressively less wealth in the US. 70 years of progressively less international respect. 70 years of increasing hate against the US to the point that now a good portion of the world chants "death to America" as part of their national religion. 70 years of liberal progressive ideals which have done more damage to the image of the United States than anything done in the last 150 days.

It's astounding how desperately you cling to denial.

Please list which specifically and how they have done more damage to the image of the US than anything in the last 150 days.

 

[snugglestruggle]

That is sooooo easy that even Trump got it right.

You lose by completely losing touch with your electorate, screw them six ways to Sunday for twenty years, get rid of their jobs, flood the country with illegal aliens that'll take what low paid jobs there are for half the money, outsource as much of the skilled work as you can either overseas or to workers on temp visas who'll do it for less coz that's still way better than what they were doing, repeatedly tell the major ethnic group within the country that they're racist assholes, pander to every minority group with some grievance, go so pc that half the country is convinced you're clinically insane, make sure there's very little difference between either of the two major political groupings that pass as parties, then stand a collection of career incompetents and outright assholes (or bitches) as candidates.

End result: Trump stands up there and says what the rest of us think and we all give you the middle finger and vote for him. Of course he frigging won. Coz between the Democrats and the RINOs this country has been completely fucked over for the benefit of corporate elites and the left wing liberals and the rest of us are now getting pretty fucked off.

And Trump articulates that fucked-offed-ness so very well. There's very little thought needed to vote for him. He's a master of gut level emotional messages that resonate with his audience. Make a note here children. YOU are, by and large, not his audience. You listen, you laugh, you mock but you don't understand the people he's talking too. He does. Hillary 100% does not. Bill and Bernie have an inkling but they're history.

Take me (and I know most of you would prefer not too coz hey, I'm a psychopathic cunt, right. Lol). Don't particularly like Democrats or most Republicans. Small c conservative. Got no time for all the liberal pc bs, Blm or any other acronym. Didn't vote for Romney coz he's a dipshit and I can't stand politicians like him or those Bush assholes. As far as I'm concerned they're only marginally better than the Klintons, Pelosi's and Pocahontii of our world. Trump stands up and more or less says fuck them all and I'm, like "fuck, yeah, I'm voting for him."

And that, boys and girls, is how you lose to Trump. You speak to people who think like me. Worried? I would be if I was you. Coz there's a lot of fucked off people out there waiting for Trump to deliver. And if he doesn't.... which he probably won't be able to do because of all the obstructionism from both sides of the House, we all probably have an inkling from history as to what comes next in the cycle when the middle class is destroyed and the working class is driven to desperation.

Hope that helps.

Are you trying to give these Commies a stroke? *snicker*

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Hmm

70 years of a rock solid alliance AGAINST FACISM. Coincidence that you see that as a bad thing?

People like you are great examples of Russian infiltration. Putin (via Puppet Trump) has got you all convinced we should dump NATO, which is HIS greatest dream. And here you are supporting it and praising him.

Yes that liberalism is so bad. We want a dictatorship and we want facist control. Hail Trump!

Dickwad

70 years of progressively less wealth in the US. 70 years of progressively less international respect. 70 years of increasing hate against the US to the point that now a good portion of the world chants "death to America" as part of their national religion. 70 years of liberal progressive ideals which have done more damage to the image of the United States than anything done in the last 150 days.

It's astounding how desperately you cling to denial.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Pictures of T-RUMP working his butt off:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCirBtpVYAA5XeU.jpg:large

 

[handysr]

Pictures of T-RUMP working his butt off:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCirBtpVYAA5XeU.jpg:large

[Eyeroll]

I'm not sure here... Do you approve of this method or not? Before you answer, keep in mind this is the same way obama did it.

One big difference is that at least Trump has the balls to call ISIS what they are. obama didn't want to admit they are the vocal minority of his religion.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Trump can't find his balls under all that flab.

btw, McMaster and all his actual national security people got him to stop "calling it what it is." Maybe they're all Muslims, too

[Eyeroll]

I'm not sure here... Do you approve of this method or not? Before you answer, keep in mind this is the same way obama did it.

One big difference is that at least Trump has the balls to call ISIS what they are. obama didn't want to admit they are the vocal minority of his religion.

 

[sr71plt]

Oh, some asses are still pretending that Obama is a Muslim and posting about that? I guess he really has some scaredy-cat babies peeing in their pants.

 

[HisArpy]

Hmm

70 years of a rock solid alliance AGAINST FACISM. Coincidence that you see that as a bad thing?

People like you are great examples of Russian infiltration. Putin (via Puppet Trump) has got you all convinced we should dump NATO, which is HIS greatest dream. And here you are supporting it and praising him.

Yes that liberalism is so bad. We want a dictatorship and we want facist control. Hail Trump!

Dickwad

Hmm, it's taken 70 years to get us to this point where we now have regime change and open warfare among religious factions as well as nations. 70 years of NOT standing up to facism that got us to the point where psuedo-refugees are now infiltrating other nations and taking their war THERE instead of keeping it within their own borders. 70 years of lots of loud talk but not much action against ACTUAL facism. Boko Haram's kidnapping of all those school girls ring a bell there for anyone? Che Guevera's overthrow of the Cuban government? The overthrow of the Shah of Iran? The Arab Spring? YEMEN?

Yep, 70 years of the rise of INtolerance toward others in the name of liberalism.

We went from our Declaration of Independence, through a civil war, to Americans fighting and dying for freedom in Europe and the Pacific in the name of freedom against oppression; to a bunch of PUSSIES wearing flannel onezees to work while terrorists kidnap girls to rape them, BEAT WOMEN TO DEATH on the mere suspicion of adultery without a trial, murder children on schoolbuses, blow up shopping malls/buses/planes/trains/cars/nightclubs, and drive trucks through crowds on sidewalks.

We riot to protest the denial of transgender BATHROOMS while people die over religious interpretation. While governments incarcerate or execute people on the basis of their religious beliefs.

And somehow it's ALL the fault of conservatives? We could solve these problems if the conservatives would just agree with the progressives to let MORE of this stuff happen?

Yeah, progressivism, it works. It works wonders. If the result you're looking for is death and destruction. For anything else, not so much goodness there.

*Edit here*

I want to add a counter point to the above just so the bleeding heart chickwad understands EXACTLY what her idealism doesn't do.

Reagan unified East and West Berlin. He didn't do that by drawing a red line and then backing away from it. He didn't do that by being tolerant and inclusive. No, he did that by being strong and making our allies AND ENEMIES believe in that strength.

I do not ascribe to the idea that Reagan was a hero or anything like that. But I do believe that he projected power and strength to those who would see any weakness as an excuse to attack the US or it's allies. It worked. And there was peace. Until the liberals rose up again.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

^^

Cares so much about democracy he supports a wanna-be autocrat who attacks our Intelligence Agencies, free press, courts, and Congress (anything which can check his power), claims his authority "will not be questioned" and is under investigation for obstruction of justice and abuse of executive power.

Also praises dictator countries like North Korea

 

[HisArpy]

^^

Cares so much about democracy he supports a wanna-be autocrat who attacks our Intelligence Agencies, free press, courts, and Congress (anything which can check his power), claims his authority "will not be questioned" and is under investigation for obstruction of justice and abuse of executive power.

Also praises dictator countries like North Korea

Wow so much spin here I thought I saw some cows and a barn go flying by. What is that, a 5 on the Fugita scale?

 

[Boxlicker101]

70 years of progressively less wealth in the US. 70 years of progressively less international respect. 70 years of increasing hate against the US to the point that now a good portion of the world chants "death to America" as part of their national religion. 70 years of liberal progressive ideals which have done more damage to the image of the United States than anything done in the last 150 days.

It's astounding how desperately you cling to denial.

Without disagreeing with the thrust of what you are saying, you are going back too far. In 1947, the USA was seen as the savior of the world, following the defeat of the Axis and the onset of the Marshall Plan and the USA accepting so many displaced persons from Europe and other places.

The primary goal at the time was halting the hegemony of the USSR and this was successful, eventually, but the American methods may have been seen as too heavy-handed.

 

[HisArpy]

Without disagreeing with the thrust of what you are saying, you are going back too far. In 1947, the USA was seen as the savior of the world, following the defeat of the Axis and the onset of the Marshall Plan and the USA accepting so many displaced persons from Europe and other places.

The primary goal at the time was halting the hegemony of the USSR and this was successful, eventually, but the American methods may have been seen as too heavy-handed.

Psssst!

1947 was, ahem, 70 years ago.

Just sayin'.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Psssst!

1947 was, ahem, 70 years ago.

Just sayin'.

I know. That was why I mentioned WW2 and the Marshall Plan. The USA was highly respected then. There were several reasons for the change, including Vietnam and the growth of Socialism in Western and Southern Europe. The 70 year period included eight years of Ike, eight years of Reagan and eight years of Nixon/Ford. The liberalism didn't start until Carter, and got much worse under Obama.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I know. That was why I mentioned WW2 and the Marshall Plan. The USA was highly respected then. There were several reasons for the change, including Vietnam and the growth of Socialism in Western and Southern Europe. The 70 year period included eight years of Ike, eight years of Reagan and eight years of Nixon/Ford.

Ya miss those years, don'tcha? That's when 'Murrica was great, yey?

 

[about_average]

I heard a great quote this morning from one of the small number, "we have to work in private to resolve significant differences."
That was classic. LOL

 

[HisArpy]

I heard a great quote this morning from one of the small number, "we have to work in private to resolve significant differences."
That was classic. LOL

At least they'll know what's in it before they have to vote on it.

Personally, I think that this bill is too important to not give it the chance for robust debate. Craft it, put it on the floor, and let the debate begin. THEN vote on it.

 

[Trumpire]

From OP:

"Republican senators are privately crafting a health care bill, raising alarm from Democrats"

I honestly don't recall if I'm Dem or GOP, but it doesn't matter. This raises questions from me, specifically one:

Didn't they already pass one in this calendar year & Presidency... On a 2nd attempt... Which some seem to have admitted they didn't read before passing it?!

Did these people not think/learn to take "Yes" for an answer?!

I feel like I need to make something like a cat-"Hang In There" poster, saying, "'No' means 'no', & 'yes' means 'stop'"!

 

[Beco]

Locking Democrats out of the health-care bill process just means it's all on the Republicans when it hits even their base that they are screwing everyone but the superrich. I'm fine with it being wholly a Republican bill. They've already shown that they are totally incompetent in delivery workable plans that aren't going to screw their own base.

Personally, I think they should have just tweaked it a little if that was possible. Why repeal, and replace? that's not such an easy thing to do, as the idiot Republicans are finding out.

Also, get Mcconnelll out of there

 

[Beco]

June 13, 2017

Sessions was talked into a corner a few times when it came to the actual legal basis for the argument, by Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/13/53282...e-5-highlights-from-sessions-senate-testimony

Jeff Sessions wastes time by answering questions that were not asked- used up "full five minutes of Harris’ allotted time." How much time did Sessions, McCain, and Burr waste, responding to Session's complaint and "distress" ?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/was...s-and-sessions-face-1497387259-htmlstory.html


When Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., asked about Sessions' recollection of meetings with Russian officials or businessmen, he complained, "I'm not able to be rushed this fast. It makes me nervous."

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/14/53285...lective-silence-deafens-senate-russia-inquiry

Kamala Harris Got Shut Down After Asking an Incredibly Important Question. Again

June 14, 2017
On Tuesday, attorney general Jeff Sessions also tried to filibuster the former California attorney general’s questions without properly answering them. And again, the same two white male Senators essentially shushed her.


Jeff Sessions and Burr share a smile, after Burr and McCain help Sessions run out the clock, and evade Kamala Harris's pointed questions

Kamala Harris wants a yes or no answer on the DOJ policy from Jeff Sessions


Harris: So did you not consult it before you came before this committee knowing we would ask you questions about it?
Sessions: Well, we talked about it. The policy is based --
Harris: Did you ask that it would be shown to you?
Sessions: The policy is based on the principle that the president --

Harris: Sir, I'm not asking about the principle. I'm asking --
Sessions: I'm not able to answer the question.

Harris: When you knew that you would be asked these questions and you would rely on this policy, did you not ask your staff to show you the policy that would be the basis for refusing to answer the majority of the questions that have been asked of you.

McCain: The attorney general should be allowed to answer the questions.
Burr: Senators will allow the chair to control the hearing. Sen. Harris let him answer.

Harris: Please do.
Sessions: We talked about it. And we talked about the real principle that is at stake is one that I have some appreciation for as having spent 15 years in the department of justice, 12 as United States attorney. And that principle is that the Constitution provides the head of the executive branch certain privileges. And that members—one of them is confidentiality of communications. And it is improper for agents of any of the department of any departments in the executive branch to waive that privilege without a clear approval of the president.
Harris: Mr. Chairman, I have asked—
Sessions: That's the situation—

Harris: Mr. Sessions, I asked for a yes or no.

Sessions: So the answer is, yes, I consulted.

Harris: Did you ask staff to see the policy?
Burr: The senator's time has expired.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto..._asking_an_incredibly_important_question.html

Harris's questioning of Sessions occurred six days after she was reprimanded by Burr for what the chairman said was a lack of “courtesy” in her and other senators’ questions to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

USA Today columnist Kirsten Powers, who was also on CNN’s panel Wednesday, interjected after Miller said Sessions "knocked away some of the hysteria from Kamala Harris and some of the Democrats who wanted to make this a big partisan show."






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the first sign of trouble and this dum-dum recuses himself.

 

[Beco]

If you hadn't noticed it's these California Democrats that are barking the loudest, other than Elizabeth Warren.

 

[HisArpy]

If you hadn't noticed it's these California Democrats that are barking the loudest, other than Elizabeth Warren.

The problem is that the loud barking is coming from the end of the digestive tract which has no teeth.

Not that the California legislature ever HAD any teeth to begin with, but you get my drift.

 

[Trumpire]

The problem is that the loud barking is coming from the end of the digestive tract which has no teeth.

Not that the California legislature ever HAD any teeth to begin with, but you get my drift.

Course not; No need when you've got a former Mr. Universe leading the state (who also replaced Trump on a TV reality show).

 

[HisArpy]

Course not; No need when you've got a former Mr. Universe leading the state (who also replaced Trump on a TV reality show).

Dude, you REALLY need to update your bot. Arnie hasn't been gov for 6 years.

 

[urguyscott]

How can you lock out a do nothing party that still hasn't read Obama Care from anything? They admit they never read any bills and their leaders have said that they won't sit down and work with the Republicans or the President. So how can they cry like little babies and say "Oh, they won't let me play."?

When they finally start to act like the representatives that they are and earn their money by taking part in the government instead of holding it up, then the grown ups will let them "play".

Until then go to your room and think about what you haven't done for your country.

 

[Trumpire]

How can you lock out a do nothing party that still hasn't read Obama Care from anything?

Until then go to your room and think about what you haven't done for your country.

Make you a deal... I'll go to my room (I own this whole place anyway) when you explain to me WTH "read Obama Care from anything" even means.

Also, I have no bot... Tho your Mom says you're a pain in hers. Also, Arnie was Governor there (& head of the "Apprentice" show as well), & Donald has still never been President.