frogprince2
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No, all good !“Disagree” was too in your face. I can be too blunt![]()
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No, all good !“Disagree” was too in your face. I can be too blunt![]()
Makes a change, right?I thought his request was honest and answerable![]()
Shameless self promotion. I write what I call suburban erotica, ordinary people meeting (usually in a café or on the commute), establish a connection, go further with that connection. Mostly MF couples, some MFF threesomes.* Realistic characters making believable--if sometimes a little reckless or unwise--decisions.
I want the characters to be realistic but I don't want it to be totally boring, safe.
* Naturalistic writing.
Set in something like the real world with human characters of approximately normal abilities, doing approximately natural things.
* Flirtation and excitement.
It should get sexy very fast. Not a sex scene right away, but the sexual tension and chemistry should happen in the first chapter. The characters meet, there's interest, the conversation feels heated, and you can understand a real reason why there's interest.
* Lots of detail and description.
I like to feel like I'm there as much as possible.
* Sex.
I do want sex scenes, but this is the lowest priority, because most of the fun comes from the flirtation
Penny's reply is noted, and I think he would have enjoyed several of my stories, but I would have felt bad referring him to part 5 of 11, or part 11 of 17 and counting...
I agree! And I have been writing a story (several actually).You're specs are so specific that your best chance of satisfying them is to write your story yourself.
I was thinking the same thing. Poster would not like my stuff at all.You're specs are so specific that your best chance of satisfying them is to write your story yourself.
Is there a better place to look or ask this question? I don't know the literature world, I'm just googling and looking for whatever seems closest.While your highly detailed list of preferences might suggest refined taste, it may also show a bit of an unrealistic approach. Reality check: you’ve come to a place where amateurs (often with some serious issues) offer their work for free to people who are looking for escapism and quick release. If you’re truly looking for top-quality realism, maybe this isn't quite the right place.
There is a Looking for Story subforum (under Story Feedback) where you might have a bit better luck asking for recommendations, although it tends to be about finding specific stories that people forgotten the titles/authors of.Is there a better place to look or ask this question?
I've seen a book reviewer say this, and I kinda get you, but ... I don't agree.I mean, a hyper-realistic erotica story is kind of unrealistic, if that makes sense. The whole point is to express fantasy, or for those engaged in that fantasy an extreme version of that fantasy.
This is what imagination is for.I agree! And I have been writing a story (several actually).
A problem is ... it's hard!
Like it's hard to write a story generally. But it's especially hard to write a story when I kinda don't have any examples to use for inspiration and as a guide. I think most of the time writers have at least a few examples of writing that they like, and when they write they have some part of their brain saying "I liked when that book did that thing, I wonder if I can do something like it".
But anyway, I do fundamentally agree.
I would say a merely realistic story would take place in the real world with no magic or monsters or whatever -- but where characters are unrealistically wealthy, or make unrealistic decisions. Exactly what that looks like gets difficult to give strict rules for. Of course everything ultimately comes down to opinion and taste here, but maybe that answers your question.I'm curious. Which of these criteria would you drop for a story to be merely realistic?
That might be the case for many, but it's not for me. I have a list of authors here that I'm following, and there's no way that I could write anything like them. Or mainstream writers: Jane Austen, Katherine Mansfield, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Toni Morrison, on and on . . . no way could I do even the faintest imitation of any of them. There is some vague 'influence' perhaps, but when I write (and it is always difficult), I have to make up my own stuff from scratch. I can't get a leg-up from people who do it better.I think most of the time writers have at least a few examples of writing that they like, and when they write they have some part of their brain saying "I liked when that book did that thing, I wonder if I can do something like it".
I think writers who are more serious about writing are more likely to write realistic scenarios about realistic people. I mean, even if there are dragons or spaceships involved, one of the common factors is an interest in writing about *people*, not wish fulfilment fantasies.I would say a merely realistic story would take place in the real world with no magic or monsters or whatever -- but where characters are unrealistically wealthy, or make unrealistic decisions. Exactly what that looks like gets difficult to give strict rules for. Of course everything ultimately comes down to opinion and taste here, but maybe that answers your question.
People need to know the difference between realistic and grounded.I think writers who are more serious about writing are more likely to write realistic scenarios about realistic people. I mean, even if there are dragons or spaceships involved, one of the common factors is an interest in writing about *people*, not wish fulfilment fantasies.
I've dragons and spaceships, and demons and trolls and hags and cat-women and all kinds of other fantastical elements, and to my mind the characters are still more realistic than billionaire fantasies or people doing stupid things just to create a plot point.
The middle work in my tentacle porn / hard SciFi trilogy is ostensibly about a woman officer on a space ship struggling with the concept of her alien, shape-shifting lover having telepathic and mind control powers. Soooo unrealistic, right?I would say a merely realistic story would take place in the real world with no magic or monsters or whatever
And share it over on the Story Ideas forum.You're specs are so specific that your best chance of satisfying them is to write your story yourself.
Yep. Might not be realistic. But it sounds grounded as all hell.The middle work in my tentacle porn / hard SciFi trilogy is ostensibly about a woman officer on a space ship struggling with the concept of her alien, shape-shifting love having telepathic and mind control powers. Soooo unrealistic, right?
Except that it was really about me accepting that I could have a relationship with a man again… because of reasons. And also my initially less than wonderful reaction to the idea of a committed relationship of any kind.
Our least real stories are often parables about all too quotidian and human things.
I'm a male who has tried to get into erotic stories, I've tried probably thirty stories and haven't liked any of them.
I've tried the classics like Anais Nin and Henry Miller. I've read contemporary stories here on Literotica, and downloaded some from Amazon.
I'm trying to think of why it is that every one of them has not enticed me at all, and I think the common theme is that they all feel distant and fake. Like yeah I know it's fiction, it's going to be fake, but ... that doesn't feel interesting or exciting.
I've also tried the subreddits for sexy confessions but they're mostly badly written fiction.
I am starting to theorize that this might be a difference between male and female readers. It's not a hard dividing line, I'm sure. There are men who like fantasy erotic writing too. But I kind of wonder if women more often like an unrealistic fantasy because the escape and the distance from real life feels better. Whereas, speaking for myself at least, the distance just feels like a more cerebral and less visceral and exciting experience.
So I'm taking another stab at asking for recommendations, this time trying to find the most realistic, naturalistic writing possible.
Things I want
* Heterosexual.
* Realistic characters making believable--if sometimes a little reckless or unwise--decisions.
I want the characters to be realistic but I don't want it to be totally boring, safe. They can have flaws, make mistakes, that actually makes them feel more real. They just shouldn't do implausible things like fall in love with a mafia guy.
* Naturalistic writing.
Set in something like the real world with human characters of approximately normal abilities, doing approximately natural things. Like, being unusually attractive and fit is great, being unusually charismatic is great. But no mind control or super strength, or whatever.
* Flirtation and excitement.
It should get sexy very fast. Not a sex scene right away, but the sexual tension and chemistry should happen in the first chapter. The characters meet, there's interest, the conversation feels heated, and you can understand a real reason why there's interest.
* Lots of detail and description.
I like to feel like I'm there as much as possible.
* Sex.
I do want sex scenes, but this is the lowest priority, because most of the fun comes from the flirtation. Especially good if it makes clear sense why these characters like each other, like you can feel the fun and the sexual chemistry. An eventual, actual sex scene is a plus but not a requirement. If there is one, it can be all the way to 100 with explicitness.
Things I don't want
* Anything unnatural.
No sci-fi, no fantasy, no supernatural, no aliens, no magic, no time-travel, no ghosts.
* Unrealistic characters, unrealistic decisions.
No billionaire in a studio on top of a sky scraper.
No psychologically normal woman falling in love with a mafia boss.
* Author tricks.
No purple prose, no metaphors in every paragraph, judicious use of adverbs and adjectives. Feeling and atmosphere should arise from describing details, actions, setting, dialogue.
I know it's hard but I prefer to avoid cliches and tropes. No "clever writing structures" like obvious cliff hangers, or an opening chapter that starts in the middle of the story in order to hook you.
* Extreme kinks.
I'm comfortable with some kinks, but definitely nothing crazy. Can be specific if anyone wants details.
Things I'm indifferent to
* Romance.
If they fall in love, fine. If it's just sex, fine. I do want the emphasis on the sexiness, thrill, so on. But if it turns into something more late in the story, that's ok but not a selling point to me.
* POV.
Doesn't matter to me if it's from the male or female perspective, either can be fun. It can be 3rd person as long as I don't strongly hear the voice of the author.
Sorry for the long and analytic description, but hopefully that narrows down what I'm looking for.
No, all good !
You don't?I kinda don't have any examples to use for inspiration and as a guide
I had the same problem, then I learned to type with one hand.I have been writing a story (several actually).
A problem is ... it's hard!
I wonder if we're all just tired of the men vs women authors argument.Oh wow, I expected this thread to be filled with sarcastic responses. I mean, what the guy said about male and female readers just begs for some of those puns people seem to post in every thread. Instead, people seem to be busy linking their work.
Even after all this time here, sometimes I really feel like a newbie.
I had the same problem, then I learned to type with one hand.
Seriously though, whatever “story” or ideas/concepts/images you jerk off to, use those as the basis of your story and then flesh out the plot and characters after you clean up.
Unfortunately, a lot of us had to write our own stories because no one else had. Necessity is the mother of invention and all that. It’s just how it is when your needs are so specific.
Good luck!