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[wuselmann]

Hi, I am writing a rather complex story, where one part of the story takes place in a boarding school in Switzerland. At that time (early 70s) chastisement and beatings were still legal there. Would it be against the rules describing a seventeen year old girl being on the receiving end of those practices? For her, it is definitely not a sexual experience and I am leaving it up to the reader to judge, if that might be different for the punishers. Is that still within the rules, or crossing the line already?

 

[StillStunned]

The rule of thumb seems to be whether it could be titillating for the reader. If there's anything involving a minor that might have the reader sticking their hand down their trousers, you'd probably best leave it out.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Hi, I am writing a rather complex story, where one part of the story takes place in a boarding school in Switzerland. At that time (early 70s) chastisement and beatings were still legal there. Would it be against the rules describing a seventeen year old girl being on the receiving end of those practices? For her, it is definitely not a sexual experience and I am leaving it up to the reader to judge, if that might be different for the punishers. Is that still within the rules, or crossing the line already?

If you're leaving it open for the reader to interpret it as sexually titillating for the punishers, that's probably over the line.

 

[wuselmann]

Thanks, I suspected this could be problematic. I can fix it of course by raising the girl's age to eighteen, which would still make sense, but then I have to adjust the following (she is waiting for her first real sexual encounter until she's 18, surprisingly). Some tweaking to do. But the beatings/torture involved are an integral part of the story, can't leave that out.

 

[SimonDoom]

I'd suggest starting the story when she's 18 and just vaguely alluding to the fact that the treatment had existed before that. That should be OK. I agree with others that if she's under 18 and you leave it "open" to the reader's interpretation whether it's titillating, then the site, if it bothers to scrutinize the story closely, probably would regard it as crossing the line.

 

[wuselmann]

I'd suggest starting the story when she's 18 and just vaguely alluding to the fact that the treatment had existed before that. That should be OK. I agree with others that if she's under 18 and you leave it "open" to the reader's interpretation whether it's titillating, then the site, if it bothers to scrutinize the story closely, probably would regard it as crossing the line.

Well, that is not really an option, since what is happening at the school (and starts on the very first day at the school) is meant to be essential for how this particular woman developes, is formative for her personality and her work. The overall plot is a biography of an artist her favourite erotic story writer is meant to write - she is telling him stories that would not be found in existing biographies, but really explain who and what she is - this particular story within the novel is already written (exactly 100 word pages).

Since she was a troubled teenager and this school was a last ditch attempt to get her back on track, as it was famous for those feats, I managed to raise her age without sounding illogical or contrived (I hope).

Thanks for the suggestion, though.

 

[SimonDoom]

You might want to consider writing the story the way you want to write it and publishing it elsewhere. I'm reluctant to tell you that you have to completely change your story just to accommodate this platform. I'm just not sure your story, as you conceive it, will work within the four corners of this site's particular rules on this subject.

 

[wuselmann]

I know what you mean, but I am publishing here under different names since 2006 and even conceive my stories within the framework of literotica's rules - just in this instance it somehow didn't occur to me what has been said before, namely that the reader might get off on descriptions of a seventeen year old getting beaten and tortured. It is BDSM territory, which I rarely enter, but for this particular one it seemed to work pretty well - especially since there were actual scandels in several of those Swiss boarding schools of that ilk.

It will be published on the German side of Lit and there it might have even be accepted without any problems in the original, but I had a bad feeling about it, and didn't really know why.

Sorry, if my English is a tad rusty.

 

[soflabbwlvr]

Is it important to the story that she is 17? I would just make her 18 and avoid the issue altogether.

 

[wuselmann]

Is it important to the story that she is 17? I would just make her 18 and avoid the issue altogether.

Yeah, it was, had to do with her story up to her arrival at that school. I calculated the logical age, but bypassed that now by adding another year she had to repeat in one of the previous schools she got expelled from. Also, I wanted to keep sex out of it in the first year, for various easons, basically peeling the onion of what is really going on there slowly, building all kinds of relationships. However, I think I managed to find a reason, why she is not having sex during her first year, although she is already in two relationships at the end of it that have a sexual component, just not full on acts as such. Getting caught with another girl or even worse a teacher would have really bad consequences for them, so taking the risk is not something they would do easily (as rewarded with the most severe punishments).

 

[MillieDynamite]

"In this place, corporal punishment wasn't unusual. But for an 18-year-old to have to flip her skirt up and have panties yanked down for the beating crossed the line." This kind of line in the story wouldn't trigger the rule if it preceded the 17-year-old receiving punishment without the humiliation of her bare ass being pounded. It would establish they whip them, be it would tell them they don't make them take it bare-bottomed (other than the line above). Then you can have it both way's, sans humiliation, and with.

 

[wuselmann]

"In this place, corporal punishment wasn't unusual. But for an 18-year-old to have to flip her skirt up and have panties yanked down for the beating crossed the line." This kind of line in the story wouldn't trigger the rule if it preceded the 17-year-old receiving punishment without the humiliation of her bare ass being pounded. It would establish they whip them, be it would tell them they don't make them take it bare-bottomed (other than the line above). Then you can have it both way's, sans humiliation, and with.

Yeah, that would work, but my readers deserve to see that behind and the humiliation that can be extracted from that moment. The headmistress extends and expands the introduction to her realm. It is supposed to set the stage for some more unfortunate things. I have already finished my adjustments and am editing at the mo, and found that it was probably wise to let her age a bit, as I had forgotten some details I wouldn't want to omit either.