Scream it out! Roe v. Wade edition

[Matt12191982]

I still can't believe this is an issue... Those I know "in real life" seem so full of shit. I don't believe that they can't sleep at night because someone had an abortion. Usually the same people who are religious, but I just don't believe them. If a woman had an abortion right now down the road, they wouldn't know. I wonder if they're protesting the genocide in Palestine. I highly doubt it. Pro-life my ass. It's just a dumb political football they use to raise money, but they're not in on it, so there's more of that, "I'm supposed to believe __________"

 

[cascadiabound]

I still can't believe this is an issue... Those I know "in real life" seem so full of shit. I don't believe that they can't sleep at night because someone had an abortion. Usually the same people who are religious, but I just don't believe them. If a woman had an abortion right now down the road, they wouldn't know. I wonder if they're protesting the genocide in Palestine. I highly doubt it. Pro-life my ass. It's just a dumb political football they use to raise money, but they're not in on it, so there's more of that, "I'm supposed to believe __________"

What I can't believe is the ease with which the anti abortion movement upon getting the Dobbs decision in their favor now want to
1) track women's periods
2) prevent interstate travel for reproductive health care
3) allow women's to bleed out in parking lots of hospitals with pregnancy complications while staff refuse care (out of their own legal jeopardy fears) until she is genuinely at death's door <which could easily mean loss of ability to carry a pregnancy in future>
4) outlaw anything that might be used in abortion care to be shipped
5) enforce the Comstock Act
6) outlaw contraceptives
7) make IVF illegal
8) make pregnancy compulsory

Fuck. We ARE living on the cusp of the Handmaid's Tale

 

[Matt12191982]

What I can't believe is the ease with which the anti abortion movement upon getting the Dobbs decision in their favor now want to
1) track women's periods
2) prevent interstate travel for reproductive health care
3) allow women's to bleed out in parking lots of hospitals with pregnancy complications while staff refuse care (out of their own legal jeopardy fears) until she is genuinely at death's door <which could easily mean loss of ability to carry a pregnancy in future>
4) outlaw anything that might be used in abortion care to be shipped
5) enforce the Comstock Act
6) outlaw contraceptives
7) make IVF illegal
8) make pregnancy compulsory

Fuck. We ARE living on the cusp of the Handmaid's Tale

That's power. Even if they disagree with it, acquiring power and doing as much as you can with it is the game.

 

[cascadiabound]

 

[Strixaluco]

What I can't believe is the ease with which the anti abortion movement upon getting the Dobbs decision in their favor now want to
1) track women's periods
2) prevent interstate travel for reproductive health care
3) allow women's to bleed out in parking lots of hospitals with pregnancy complications while staff refuse care (out of their own legal jeopardy fears) until she is genuinely at death's door <which could easily mean loss of ability to carry a pregnancy in future>
4) outlaw anything that might be used in abortion care to be shipped
5) enforce the Comstock Act
6) outlaw contraceptives
7) make IVF illegal
8) make pregnancy compulsory

Fuck. We ARE living on the cusp of the Handmaid's Tale

From this side of the pond all that seems unfathomable. Even with the far-right gaining momentum.

 

[cascadiabound]

From this side of the pond all that seems unfathomable. Even with the far-right gaining momentum.

Which is exactly what most Americans would have said 24 months ago. Inconceivable!!!
Fear mongering!
It'll never happen!
Don't be ridiculous...

It makes me understand the German population in the 1940's

 

[Apisto42]

I still can't believe this is an issue... Those I know "in real life" seem so full of shit. I don't believe that they can't sleep at night because someone had an abortion. Usually the same people who are religious, but I just don't believe them. If a woman had an abortion right now down the road, they wouldn't know. I wonder if they're protesting the genocide in Palestine. I highly doubt it. Pro-life my ass. It's just a dumb political football they use to raise money, but they're not in on it, so there's more of that, "I'm supposed to believe __________"

Everyone from the center to the left needs to understand the weird shit that’s underlying the far right. It’s hard core religious fundamentalism seeking to create a theocracy by putting these wack jobs in government and the judiciary. It’s scary as hell.

People say,”that can’t happen” but there’s more and more of them in the senate, the house, and more importantly in the federal and state courts.

 

[Xerxes82]

Everyone from the center to the left needs to understand the weird shit that’s underlying the far right. It’s hard core religious fundamentalism seeking to create a theocracy by putting these wack jobs in government and the judiciary. It’s scary as hell.

People say,”that can’t happen” but there’s more and more of them in the senate, the house, and more importantly in the federal and state courts.

Anybody who hasn't already would do well to actually read some of the Project 2025 materials. Not just on this topic, either.

They have an entire blueprint for how to use executive power to build a radical, fundamentalist Christian theocracy in the US in a single presidential term.

 

[cascadiabound]

Everyone from the center to the left needs to understand the weird shit that’s underlying the far right. It’s hard core religious fundamentalism seeking to create a theocracy by putting these wack jobs in government and the judiciary. It’s scary as hell.

People say,”that can’t happen” but there’s more and more of them in the senate, the house, and more importantly in the federal and state courts.

Exactly right.

 

[cascadiabound]

Anybody who hasn't already would do well to actually read some of the Project 2025 materials. Not just on this topic, either.

They have an entire blueprint for how to use executive power to build a radical, fundamentalist Christian theocracy in the US in a single presidential term.

Agreed.
Project2025 pdf

 

[LadyLascivious1]

Anybody who hasn't already would do well to actually read some of the Project 2025 materials. Not just on this topic, either.

They have an entire blueprint for how to use executive power to build a radical, fundamentalist Christian theocracy in the US in a single presidential term.

It scares the fuck out of me.

 

[cascadiabound]

It scares the fuck out of me.

Me too.
And the danger does not go away simply by defeating 45 this November... this plan will be awaiting the next republican administration whenever that is, unless it gets forsworn if and when the GOP comes to it's senses.

 

[ccs29745]

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Amen. I'm not for abortion being used as birth control. I'm for when it is necessary in certain situations.

 

[cascadiabound]

Amen. I'm not for abortion being used as birth control. I'm for when it is necessary in certain situations.

How many instances do you know for a fact when abortion was used as "birth control"?
Having worked for many years in reproductive health care and many more as a primary health care nurse, I can only think of one patient who could possibly be described as using abortion as birth control... and in that case her husband had a fetish with being able to get her pregnant and forbid her from using contraceptives and refused to get a vas even though he admitted to wanting no more children.

 

[TomTeacher19]

I'm still constantly amazed at how deaf both sides are. The left screams "they want to control women's bodies" but almost no one on the right thinks of it that way. The right screams "you're killing a life there" and no one on the left believes that. And it's fine to believe what you want to believe but there is no movement or discussion or consideration from either side because neither one actually even considers the actual perspective of the other side - they just start with what they already painted the other side as.

 

[ccs29745]

How many instances do you know for a fact when abortion was used as "birth control"?
Having worked for many years in reproductive health care and many more as a primary health care nurse, I can only think of one patient who could possibly be described as using abortion as birth control... and in that case her husband had a fetish with being able to get her pregnant and forbid her from using contraceptives and refused to get a vas even though he admitted to wanting no more children.

Unfortunately I know two in near by areas where they didn't want to be on the pill and didn't want who ever they were sleeping with to wear protection. They would just go to abortion clinic and have abortion claiming rape or some other situation that was never their fault. Thankfully after 4 and 6 abortions, they were denied anymore when they found out the girls were lying about their causes of getting pregnant.

One girl is in jail on child neglect, the other I don't know what happened to.

 

[cascadiabound]

I'm still constantly amazed at how deaf both sides are. The left screams "they want to control women's bodies" but almost no one on the right thinks of it that way. The right screams "you're killing a life there" and no one on the left believes that. And it's fine to believe what you want to believe but there is no movement or discussion or consideration from either side because neither one actually even considers the actual perspective of the other side - they just start with what they already painted the other side as.

If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one. That's it.

 

[LadyLascivious1]

Unfortunately I know two in near by areas where they didn't want to be on the pill and didn't want who ever they were sleeping with to wear protection. They would just go to abortion clinic and have abortion claiming rape or some other situation that was never their fault. Thankfully after 4 and 6 abortions, they were denied anymore when they found out the girls were lying about their causes of getting pregnant.

One girl is in jail on child neglect, the other I don't know what happened to.

While that’s not what I would personally consider the smartest of choices on multiple fronts, it’s also not my business and neither of those women asked for my opinion or help. I’m not sure why it’s anyone else’s business unless they do.

To quote Cassie’s earlier picture, “I don’t tell other people what to do when they are in a situation I may never understand myself.”

 

[jaF0]

The left screams "they want to control women's bodies" but almost no one on the right thinks of it that way.

Those in power, or trying to be in power do.

 

[Strixaluco]

The left screams "they want to control women's bodies" but almost no one on the right thinks of it that way.

To me it seems like too many of the voters refuse to believe that there is a considerable amount of extremists on the lead who actually do think so.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Amen. I'm not for abortion being used as birth control. I'm for when it is necessary in certain situations.

What do you propose as an alternative?

 

[ccs29745]

What do you propose as an alternative?

Not sure. Don't ban abortion. It's not nice, but nesseccary in some cases. Let a woman decide when or if it's needed. Tired of our politicians acting like they know a woman's needs better than the woman herself.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Not sure. Don't ban abortion. It's not nice, but nesseccary in some cases. Let a woman decide when or if it's needed. Tired of our politicians acting like they know a woman's needs better than the woman herself.

This is a solid stance.
Things can be not nice to us and still accessible

You're a good egg

 

[ccs29745]

This is a solid stance.
Things can be not nice to us and still accessible

You're a good egg

My test tube broke open early. I've been called the odd one for my beliefs on certain subjects.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

My test tube broke open early. I've been called the odd one for my beliefs on certain subjects.

Odd people are the most interesting.