Shot fired at Trump?

[Rightguide]

It’s been nine weeks since shots were fired at the Trump rally in Pennsylvania. We still don’t know the extent of Donald Trump’s injuries.

We are finding out the SS helped the shooter though.

 

[RobDownSouth]

We are finding out the SS helped the shooter though.

We are?
How so?
First I've heard of this. I'm assuming Gateway Pundit has some exclusive us mere mortals are not privy to?
Nevermind, I found the Washington Post summary.
The big "tell" is that the Secret Service evidently has two standards of protection: one for sitting presidents and vice-presidents, and one for other presidential candidates.
The other big revelation is that the Pittsburgh Secret Service office was good at dictating protocol, but did not follow up to see if their advance directives had been carried out. I expect plenty of heads to roll for this massive shortcoming

(Note to Derpy: "heads to roll" is NOTt an enticement to violence, it's a figure of speech, no need to go pussy-whining to Laurel, she ignores your myriad reports against me in any event).

 

[Rightguide]

We are?
How so?
First I've heard of this. I'm assuming Gateway Pundit has some exclusive us mere mortals are not privy to?

There is an entire congressional investigation going on as we speak that is exposing SS incompetence and purposeful actions that made it possible for the shooter to gain access to his shooting position and make the shot. SS management purposely weakened the Trump protection detail. They denied request after request for added security for the Trump detail. The person who denied those requests is the present acting Director. We'd ask why, but we already know why. Democrats have been secretly hoping and praying that somebody would kill Donald Trump for years. That's what all of the Democrat vitriol, lawfare, media lies, and political attacks about him being "a threat to democracy" were all about. It was to create an atmosphere in the United States that would give rise to an assassination attempt. You and many here climbed on board that train hoping to reach that final destination.

 

[Pad_Foot]

It’s been nine weeks since shots were fired at the Trump rally in Pennsylvania. We still don’t know the extent of Donald Trump’s injuries.

How many years since his home spurs were xrayed???

Shit

We can’t even believe his “official” weight!!

 

[coati]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...&cvid=304a1c9285ac47ffaa63fc42fb81162c&ei=162

so, a tiny graze or nick, not even enough to require a single stitch

ears, faces, heads bleed profusely even from the smallest wounds

yes, he could have been injured a lot worse and, for the sake of democracy, i'm glad he wasn't. the last thing America needs is trump being seen as a martyr

I am glad he was not assassinated, also. Because of armed right-wingers promoting political violence and the over-distribution of guns to crazy people, anything can light the fuse on societal chaos.

It is going to take a while to get America to back away from the brink of this chaos, starting with new appointments to the Supreme Court and then licensing requirements for guns. A lot of damage has already been done to the fabric of our society by gun violence and the persistent threat of more coming from the right wing.

 

[HisArpy]

I am glad he was not assassinated, also. Because of armed right-wingers promoting political violence and the over-distribution of guns to crazy people, anything can light the fuse on societal chaos.

It is going to take a while to get America to back away from the brink of this chaos, starting with new appointments to the Supreme Court and then licensing requirements for guns. A lot of damage has already been done to the fabric of our society by gun violence and the persistent threat of more coming from the right wing.

I see you subscribe to the never let a good tragedy go to waste school of politics...

 

[goldytheGoldfish]

I never heard an apology.

 

[deckardB26354]

It’s been nine weeks since shots were fired at the Trump rally in Pennsylvania. We still don’t know the extent of Donald Trump’s injuries.

Because there weren’t any.

 

[butters]

Because there weren’t any.

a minor nick, not requiring even a single stitch yet bleeding profusely as ears tend to do

no, i do not believe in any of the conspiracy theories swirling still about this.

 

[Pad_Foot]

a minor nick, not requiring even a single stitch yet bleeding profusely as ears tend to do

no, i do not believe in any of the conspiracy theories swirling still about this.

Except over blown reports of damage
Did a complete bullet touch him?
THEY caused the problem!
It was their shooter not a Dem

 

[butters]

Except over blown reports of damage
Did a complete bullet touch him?
THEY caused the problem!
It was their shooter not a Dem

i don't believe the 'overblown' reports

all i can refer you to is the FBI's investigation which announced 'a bullet, or fragments of a bullet' caused the injury

anyone ok with weapons like the ARs and AKs made available to be legally owned and voting against measures to ban them, plus all of those using violent rhetoric (lies) to promote fear and loathing is responsible

the shooter seems to be less interested in being a magat than being famous... they expected to get away with an attempted/successful assassination on trump but also had other targets planned, democrats, politicians and figures of media interest. If Biden's open air appearance had been scheduled prior to trump's, it would have been him in the corsshairs.

 

[butters]

and apparently another "attempt"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...n-says-trump-safe-gunshots-florida-rcna171212

The Secret Service said one of its agents was scouting the course ahead of the former president when a rifle was spotted in the bushes outside the course. Agents opened fire at the suspect, but it is unclear whether the suspect fired a weapon.

An eyewitness spotted the suspect, who has not been identified, fleeing from the bushes in a black Nissan, Bradshaw told reporters. That witness reached out to law enforcement with photos of the vehicle and license plate that were used in an alert to other agencies to be on the lookout.

Authorities recovered an AR-style rifle with a scope as well as a GoPro camera in the bushes, Bradshaw said.

"The suspect's demeanor, I would describe as having a relatively calm, flat a fact, he was not displaying a lot of emotions, never asked, 'What is this about?" Snyder said.

The suspect was not armed when he was taken into custody, and the vehicle will be turned over to the FBI, the agency leading the investigation, Snyder said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...n-says-trump-safe-gunshots-florida-rcna171212

So they took this guy into custody, found without other weapons, and are busy trying to determine if this is actually the person they are looking for.

i have no idea of the reality behind this, though this particular event lends itself even more easily to notions of a 'set-up' job, promoting trump as the heroic 'hunted' political opponent.

If it's yet another genuine attempt that got stalled, kudos to the Secret Service agent who first spotted the rifle and it's a positive outcome. Will it shake trump, the fact that he's being hunted by people using the very kinds of weapons he endorses for civilians to own?

 

[butters]

a witness took a photo of the car
no weapon(?) found with the suspect
suspect's car stopped and suspect apprehended in another county

guess the work now is to definitively tie this person with the weapon found on the golf course... if there's no physical evidence, how is that going to play out?

 

[butters]

the witness says the man in custody is the man he saw run from the bushes

 

[HisArpy]

So many questions in what we know.

The USSS "saw a gun barrel."
Some guy "took a picture" of the license plate of a car parked on the side of the road as he was driving by.
A "witness" saw the guy who was arrested come out of the bushes.

Compelling case? Or nothing but questions?

Note; I'm not saying he's not the guy. Just saying that the links in that chain don't add up all by themselves.

Unless you were running a covert op...

 

[LLCox]

"Please God let it be a democrap this time" ~ all trumptards

 

[butters]

in court this morning

 

[ll74]

I'm just going to throw this out there.

Vigilantism is criminal and Bayshore crazy stuff.

If you feel you cannot address your grievances using established systems of justice, seek help or focus on other things.

 

[MissMandy86]

No shots were actually fired at trump .. the guy was duck hunting

 

[butters]

Routh was charged with possession of a firearm while a convicted felon and possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number during an initial appearance in federal court Monday morning. The investigation into Sunday’s apparent attempt on Trump’s life is continuing, and additional charges could be brought

the alleged wannabe assassin seems to have been deeply invested (the media's calling it obsessed) in supporting Ukraine

On social media, Routh was a staunch supporter of Ukraine who said he supported Trump in 2016 but later became disillusioned with the former president. He’s been frequently critical of Trump recently.

Routh traveled to Ukraine following Russia’s invasion two years ago, attending a rally in Kyiv on May 1, 2022. Representatives for Ukraine’s foreign legion said Routh contacted them several times but distanced themselves from Routh.

Oleksandr Shaguri, an officer of the Foreigners Coordination Department of the Land Forces Command, told CNN over the phone that “the best way to describe his messages is – delusional ideas.”

there may be grounds to charge Routh with being in possession of a firearm as an ex-felon and aggravated assault against a federal law enforcement officer for pointing an AK-47 at the Secret Service agent. However, it may be difficult to charge Routh with a crime against Trump specifically. Aronberg said the distance between Routh and Trump, between 300 to 500 yards, might be too far for the court to be certain Routh was aiming his rifle at Trump.

Instead, Aronberg said it will be much easier to charge Routh with aiming at the Secret Service agent who saw the rifle barrel pointed at him.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=d740ba9eff37406aa29c3a6b0a54db77&ei=10

 

[butters]

perhaps this has done a service (no shots fired at trump, good) in pointing out what the Secret Service has been pointing out for years: a lack of staffing and difficulty in recruiting. They need around 1,500 extra staff to be effective in the jobs they're tasked with.

 

[deckardB26354]

there may be grounds to charge Routh with being in possession of a firearm as an ex-felon and aggravated assault against a federal law enforcement officer for pointing an AK-47 at the Secret Service agent. However, it may be difficult to charge Routh with a crime against Trump specifically. Aronberg said the distance between Routh and Trump, between 300 to 500 yards, might be too far for the court to be certain Routh was aiming his rifle at Trump.

Oh! Guess that means that Routh can “take another shot” at it.

 

[butters]

it may be something of an American (plus some other places) tradition to shoot your political opponents, but it is not acceptable

musk posted something that saw such a tremendous backlash he took it down but whined about people not being able to take a 'joke'. From where I stand, someone as wealthy and with as much influence via X as him should not be saying this shit:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...1&cvid=8d292df9007e4c68b8a932567476e273&ei=56

Musk later deleted the post.

He explained, “Well, one lesson I’ve learned is that just because I say something to a group and they laugh doesn’t mean it’s going to be all that hilarious as a post on X.”

“Turns out that jokes are WAY less funny if people don’t know the context and the delivery is plain text,” he added.

Musk did not elaborate on who was in the group that he initially told the “joke” to and who he said had found it “hilarious.”

i would think he should hang out with better people... but then what "better people" would want to hang out with him?

 

[Aglaopheme]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1835649070896980273

 

[deckardB26354]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1835649070896980273

I think Trump should build a wall around all of his courses. He could get Mexico to pay for it!