Socialism is a crime against humanity

[AlexBailey]

100% this. The problem is that some people who are not presently a part of that population assume they never will be. If it doesn't affect them or their family personally, they don't care.

It was sad and hilarious when Trump thought he’d come across an unusual word: “groceries”.

When do you suppose the last time he went to the grocery store was? I mean to shop, not to campaign.

There’s no way he has ever shopped for healthcare for himself and his family.

 

[TastySuckToy]

*snip*

So now all you have left is arguing with the definition of socialism, which I kindly showed you.

 

[Wilson23]

So now all you have left is arguing with the definition of socialism, which I kindly showed you.

THIS is the definition: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Socialism

 

[TomTeacher19]

So now all you have left is arguing with the definition of socialism, which I kindly showed you.

Nope. Still have the fact that you repeatedly have posted your description of socialism which has always been incorrect (and not the same as the definitions of it you yourself are posting)

 

[TastySuckToy]

Nope. Still have the fact that you repeatedly have posted your description of socialism which has always been incorrect (and not the same as the definitions of it you yourself are posting)

"The definition of socialism is wrong!"

 

[TomTeacher19]

"The definition of socialism is wrong!"

Nope. Didn't say that. Your lack of reading comprehension remains consistent.

The definition is fine. You have never said the same thing. Not at all. People with an IQ that is negative have figured this out quicker than you have.

 

[Wilson23]

"The definition of socialism is wrong!"

YOUR definition of socialism is wrong. This one is right:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Socialism
Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years. Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security. Socialism is what they called farm price supports. Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance. Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.
—Harry S. Truman[1]
Socialism is a wide movement proposing a fairly broad set of related socio-economic systems, aiming to create a more egalitarian society where the bulk of the means of production are owned by the workers or the community at large (typically through state ownership as an intermediary).[2][3][4][5] Alternatively, for most conservatives and libertarians, socialism is widely regarded as "when the gummint does stuff".[6]

Socialists are also commonly defined as those who wish to abolish private property, which has led to opponents claiming "socialists are coming for your toothbrush!" and the like. However, this comes from a misunderstanding of what most socialists mean by "private property". For them, it relates to the dynamic between the owner and the actual user of the property, such as the one a business owner and their employee have in an average capitalist firm. In this context, the former is able to profit despite not actually needing to do the work themselves. Socialists consider this exploitative, as it deprives the employee of the "fruits of their labor" for an individual's self-gain. They contrast this kind of property with one's actual possessions, often called "personal property".[7][8][9][10]

People who believe in socialism are referred to variously as "socialists" or "communists" — the technical difference being that communists see socialism as a "transitory phase" towards a communist society,[11] while socialists may not, meaning not every socialist is a communist. One of the main distinctions between a communist and a socialist society is that within socialism, society follows the idea of "to each according to their contribution". Within communism, society instead follows "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".[12][13]

Historically, most attempts at establishing socialism have turned out less than ideal, often turning into horrifying dictatorships. Many socialists tend to promote methods of implementation that differ from the ones used in these dictatorships, hoping to avoid the mistakes of the past. Others argue these regimes were actually vibrant democracies, and figures such as Stalin were the good guys, injustly framed by the bourgeois media. That, or they were only bad because of Western sabotage.

 

[SebastianHolt]

It was sad and hilarious when Trump thought he’d come across an unusual word: “groceries”.

When do you suppose the last time he went to the grocery store was? I mean to shop, not to campaign.

There’s no way he has ever shopped for healthcare for himself and his family.

hum...when was the last time Trump went to a grocery store? thinking early 80s?

 

[ll74]

hum...when was the last time Trump went to a grocery store? thinking early 80s?

He's never been to a grocery store.

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

hum...when was the last time Trump went to a grocery store? thinking early 80s?

maybe the 60s and 70s lol

 

[Wilson23]

He's never been to a grocery store.

He grew up in a house with domestic servants -- they got the groceries.

 

[SebastianHolt]

YOUR definition of socialism is wrong. This one is right:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Socialism
Socialism is a scare word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years. Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security. Socialism is what they called farm price supports. Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance. Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.
—Harry S. Truman[1]
Socialism is a wide movement proposing a fairly broad set of related socio-economic systems, aiming to create a more egalitarian society where the bulk of the means of production are owned by the workers or the community at large (typically through state ownership as an intermediary).[2][3][4][5] Alternatively, for most conservatives and libertarians, socialism is widely regarded as "when the gummint does stuff".[6]

Socialists are also commonly defined as those who wish to abolish private property, which has led to opponents claiming "socialists are coming for your toothbrush!" and the like. However, this comes from a misunderstanding of what most socialists mean by "private property". For them, it relates to the dynamic between the owner and the actual user of the property, such as the one a business owner and their employee have in an average capitalist firm. In this context, the former is able to profit despite not actually needing to do the work themselves. Socialists consider this exploitative, as it deprives the employee of the "fruits of their labor" for an individual's self-gain. They contrast this kind of property with one's actual possessions, often called "personal property".[7][8][9][10]

People who believe in socialism are referred to variously as "socialists" or "communists" — the technical difference being that communists see socialism as a "transitory phase" towards a communist society,[11] while socialists may not, meaning not every socialist is a communist. One of the main distinctions between a communist and a socialist society is that within socialism, society follows the idea of "to each according to their contribution". Within communism, society instead follows "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".[12][13]

Historically, most attempts at establishing socialism have turned out less than ideal, often turning into horrifying dictatorships. Many socialists tend to promote methods of implementation that differ from the ones used in these dictatorships, hoping to avoid the mistakes of the past. Others argue these regimes were actually vibrant democracies, and figures such as Stalin were the good guys, injustly framed by the bourgeois media. That, or they were only bad because of Western sabotage.

socialism is still a crime against humanity

 

[MajorRewrite]

socialism is still a crime against humanity

You live in a group home for the mentally disabled, OryginalnyHolt. And your only income is from the government. So you’re committing “crimes against humanity” daily.

 

[ItsMe87]

socialism is still a crime against humanity

lol what a load of horseshit.

 

[LeahWill]

"Trump is a crime against humanity"​

And the people at the bottom are always worse off. Look at what happened in the US when Trump became President of the country. The poor suffered and the country started to fall apart.

 

[SebastianHolt]

"Trump is a crime against humanity"​

Are you kidding? The market volatility is a freaking gold mine for anyone willing to work it.

 

[AlexBailey]

Are you kidding? The market volatility is a freaking gold mine for anyone willing to work it.

Yeah. People who “work the market” produce nothing. They pull economic leverage from an economy while other people work, serve, even volunteer.

Who are the real scabs and parasites?

 

[Hel_Books]

TastySuckToy said:
Societies and economic systems implement rules and regulations? Say it ain't so!

The point is they NEED to. They can't leave things to the market.

That is the most important point. The free market economy has been very successful, but like anything with great power, it has to be very carefully managed, otherwise you end up with Theranos and Ponzi and Enron and Trump being bribed by Qatar for special favours involving high-tech computer chips.