Some Trumpers threaten violence if he loses -- will anything come of it?

[Hard_Rom]

That's the dark side of the Tromp-as-sleeper-agent trope. He got into the fray when he pushed dumb-ass birtherism from 2011 onward. He was a buddy (and donor?) to the Clintons before then. He'd never espoused GOP 'principles' (if any). Running from an alt-right base now, his supporters form an easily identifiable group of dissidents, insurgents, traitors. The targets select themselves.

Hard to have a purge if you can't identify the targets. Can't sick the FBI, ATF and militarized police on innocent peaceable Yanks. Incite the Trompers to rebel and be a great excuse to swing popular opinion against the 2A and free speech.

First a black POTUS, than a woman and 16 years of lefty liberal rule with all the malcontents dead or serving long prison times.

Good thinking on someone's part.

 

[sr71plt]

This will be necessary for him to try to head off disastrous down-ballot effects as a result of his impeding defeat.

I wouldn't agree that he gives a shit about the down-ballot effect on the Republicans of anything he does/says.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

I wouldn't agree that he gives a shit about the down-ballot effect on the Republicans of anything he does/says.

Well you claim to have worked for the CIA. What is it like to throw an election for one side?

 

[JawnKarTurr]

Hard to have a purge if you can't identify the targets. Can't sick the FBI, ATF and militarized police on innocent peaceable Yanks. Incite the Trompers to rebel and be a great excuse to swing popular opinion against the 2A and free speech.

First a black POTUS, than a woman and 16 years of lefty liberal rule with all the malcontents dead or serving long prison times.

Good thinking on someone's part.

Socialists never have a problem cracking a few skulls to make everything run right. I applaud leftists really for their determination. Sure an idea might cost a fortune and millions of lives, but that's no reason to not continue forward.

 

[underguy1]

Socialists never have a problem cracking a few skulls to make everything run right. I applaud leftists really for their determination. Sure an idea might cost a fortune and millions of lives, but that's no reason to not continue forward.

How many world wars have socialists started?

I applaud capitalists for the effectiveness and brazenness of their propaganda and social conditioning.

It's quite brilliant.

 

[BotanyBoy]

How many world wars have socialists started?

Well there was WWII....

Then Stalin, Mao and others killed millions of people because socialism is just that awesome.

How's socialism working in Venezuela?? I heard that place was a real paradise.

 

[underguy1]

Yep there's that capitalist propaganda. Ya gotta hand it to 'em.

The mushrooms love it.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Well there was WWII....

Then Stalin, Mao and others killed millions of people because socialism is just that awesome.

How's socialism working in Venezuela?? I heard that place was a real paradise.

Just because the Nazis have the word socialist in their party name does not mean WWII was started by socialists.

World wars are started by fascists, imperialists and capitalists.

Socialist conduct mostly internal warfare against their own people. Like Stalin and Mao.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Just because the Nazis have the word socialist in their party name does not mean WWII was started by socialists.

No the fact that they took control over the nations economy and means of production before they started invading their neighbors however does.

Nazis were nationalist, but they were also socialist.

Socialism has a definition, it's not just a synonym for "altruistic good in the universe".

World wars are started by fascists, imperialists and capitalists.

And socialist.

Fascists are just pragmatic/nationalist based socialist anyhow.

Imperialism can stem from any form of government or society, it just takes a leader with the will and means to conquer.

Corporate oligarchy.....feudalism....communism.

At the end of the day they all = state control over everything.

The ONLY ism that doesn't and actually requires a serious if not total lack of state control is capitalism.

Capitalism the commerce that exists in the absence of state control.

That's all capitalism is, private commerce.

Socialist conduct mostly internal warfare against their own people. Like Stalin and Mao.

Because it's fuckin' evil.

You must be proud

 

[underguy1]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Full on fascist nut job.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Full on fascist nut job.

Apparently doesn't know what fascist means

Que up the name calling and total lack of anything supporting your bullshit.

See I know what you're going to do before you do it

 

[coati]

I wouldn't agree that he gives a shit about the down-ballot effect on the Republicans of anything he does/says.

Trump has a chance to lose worse than Goldwater did in 1964. Given that he was nominated at the peak of the Tea Party movement, if he loses all four branches of government in the same election (both Houses, the Executive branch, and the Supreme Court nominations), he would be remembered as the biggest loser of all time. Tell me a narcissist who saves every magazine article written about him wants that to be his mark on history.

Part of the reason he is blaming the media is he knows he is going to lose, and he is lining up his excuses. But the other part is to keep his rabid base energized. If they give up and stay home, Trump will become the biggest loser in American presidential history.

 

[underguy1]

Apparently doesn't know what fascist means

Que up the name calling and total lack of anything supporting your bullshit.

See I know what you're going to do before you do it

You're a fantasist kid living in your parents' basement.

 

[sr71plt]

Trump has a chance to lose worse than Goldwater did in 1964. Given that he was nominated at the peak of the Tea Party movement, if he loses all four branches of government in the same election (both Houses, the Executive branch, and the Supreme Court nominations), he would be remembered as the biggest loser of all time. Tell me a narcissist who saves every magazine article written about him wants that to be his mark on history.

Part of the reason he is blaming the media is he knows he is going to lose, and he is lining up his excuses. But the other part is to keep his rabid base energized. If they give up and stay home, Trump will become the biggest loser in American presidential history.

I agree, but that's not a comment on what was quoted--the down-ballot voting--Trump's possible concern for that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You're a fantasist kid living in your parents' basement.

LOL and you're a big poopie head!!

 

[about_average]

No the fact that they took control over the nations economy and means of production before they started invading their neighbors however does.

Nazis were nationalist, but they were also socialist.

Socialism has a definition, it's not just a synonym for "altruistic good in the universe".

Indeed it does. You should look it up.
The Nazi government was far from socialist.

 

[The_Trouvere]

There will not be a revolution or a civil war if Hillary wins. There may be isolated acts of violence by right wing cranks like Timothy McVeigh. In rural parts of the country small groups of middle aged white men with beer bellies may try to relive their youths by attacking symbols of the government.

The effect of this will be to increase support for President Hillary Clinton. Most Americans react against those who initiate the use of violence.

The angry white men who support Trump are angry because being a white man is not enough any more. One needs a reasonably high IQ.

 

[coati]

The angry white men who support Trump are angry because being a white man is not enough any more. One needs a reasonably high IQ.

This is so relevant. Trump has some female support also, not much, but some. Anti-abortion sentiments and the ignorance factor you referenced are what ties them together.

Angry people who support Trump want simple-minded answers for complex problems, like still thinking the best way to get the rest of the world to "shape up" is to build a wall and be the biggest bully on the world scene. Or, the best way to resolve violence in our own country is to arm everyone. Or, the best way to stimulate the economy is to give the richest people and biggest corporations huge tax cuts, and allow them to exploit people and the environment in any way they want. Or. the best way to deal with health, education, and other vital services is to privatize everything, and say, "every man for himself".

 

[BotanyBoy]

Indeed it does. You should look it up.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

Full Definition of socialism
1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

The Nazi government was far from socialist.

How?

Tell me how state controlled, collectivist, anti private property Germany, was far from socialist.

Being assholes doesn't make them not socialist....contrary to most modern socialists opinion.

 

[Legatus]

Perhaps an opportunity to thin the "deplorables" herd will present itself.

Think that if you want, but it's us "deplorables" that have the most guns.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Think that if you want, but it's us "deplorables" that have the most guns.

LOL

And you wont' do a god damn thing with them.

 

[Adre]

Think that if you want, but it's us "deplorables" that have the most guns.

Well that's a real accomplishment.

 

[1sickbastard]

LOL

And you wont' do a god damn thing with them.

Some will shoot themselves in the foot, from cleaning accidents.
Some will shoot each other, because. "I didn't think the gun was loaded."
The rest will hose out most of their ammo in their first fire-fight, because if Hollywood has taught them anything, it's that 'spray and pray' works great for the good guys.
Then they'll all be promptly mowed down by a squadron of AH-64, supported by a couple of A-10's, then mopped up by a battalion of actual soldiers with current training, real fire-discipline, lead by officers with recent combat experience.

And that's assuming they don't get drone-struck off the map first.

This reoccurring fantasy of "We gots ur gunz to fight 'gainst gubbmint tie-rinny" is utter nonsense and has been since WW2.

 

[Legatus]

LOL

And you wont' do a god damn thing with them.

Your crowd is the one talking about "thinning the deplorable herd". I'm just saying "yeah, good luck with that".

 

[Adre]

This reoccurring fantasy of "We gots ur gunz to fight 'gainst gubbmint tie-rinny" is utter nonsense and has been since WW2.

^^^^^This.