Stories getting flagged for Grammarly use

[ferretonpills]

I recently got flagged on a few stories I wrote and used Grammarly to help me edit. Problem is, that some of these stories are fairly long and rewriting them completely takes forever and then deturs from me writing new material. Grammarly saves me a lot of time and doesn't make me wait for someone else to do it for free through the volunteer editors. Has anyone found a way around this? I'd like to plead my case to Laurel & Manu but don't have their emails so I'm not sure what to do...and I'm talking about like 20 stories I've spent 6 months writing.

 

[millamomud]

That's like a story a week?

 

[ferretonpills]

That's like a story a week?

Something like that. I take ideas given to me and and just fly through them. Most of these stories aren't too terribly long, 5000 words maybe?

My fear is i've been working on a series ending story that is about 40k words long and now I'm worried it will be flagged since I did use Grammarly through out the editing process.

 

[MrPixel]

I recently got flagged on a few stories I wrote and used Grammarly to help me edit. Problem is, that some of these stories are fairly long and rewriting them completely takes forever and then deturs from me writing new material. Grammarly saves me a lot of time and doesn't make me wait for someone else to do it for free through the volunteer editors. Has anyone found a way around this? I'd like to plead my case to Laurel & Manu but don't have their emails so I'm not sure what to do...and I'm talking about like 20 stories I've spent 6 months writing.

I suggest not wasting your breath appealing to the author base here, or the site owners. Grammarly edits/rewrites = AI, and AI is prohibited on Literotica. Period. The conclusion I have drawn from the hand-wringing in the forum is that Grammarly leaves telltales in the copy that identify the AI modifications and are therefore easy to detect for rejection. That it "saves time" is no excuse or justification, it's still AI.

My signature more or less hints at my take on it.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

I suggest not wasting your breath appealing to the author base here, or the site owners. Grammarly edits/rewrites = AI, and AI is prohibited on Literotica. Period. The conclusion I have drawn from the hand-wringing in the forum is that Grammarly leaves telltales in the copy that identify the AI modifications and are therefore easy to detect for rejection. That it "saves time" is no excuse or justification, it's still AI.

My signature more or less hints at my take on it.

I call BS.

I have used Grammarly for over a decade with zero rejections.

The key, as others have also stated, is to use the tool to identify errors and then manually correct those errors yourself rather than letting the tool do it for you. The errors should be limited to spelling and grammar, excluding any suggestions on structural or content changes.

It is also wise to save a "pre-edit" draft so that if a rejection does occur, you have your foundation intact to compare against.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I recently got flagged on a few stories I wrote and used Grammarly to help me edit. Problem is, that some of these stories are fairly long and rewriting them completely takes forever and then deturs from me writing new material. Grammarly saves me a lot of time and doesn't make me wait for someone else to do it for free through the volunteer editors. Has anyone found a way around this? I'd like to plead my case to Laurel & Manu but don't have their emails so I'm not sure what to do...and I'm talking about like 20 stories I've spent 6 months writing.

Grammarly isn’t designed for creative writing, it’s designed for business writing. If you look at what it suggests, and make your own change, you should be fine. But if you accept its suggested wording, you are likely to get flagged for AI. So either use Grammarly circumspectly, or not at all. And it doesn’t do a lot for your prose anyway. Reviewing your own work takes some time and focus, but it’s a skill worth developing. And slowly you will embed the lessons in your writing, making then need for something like Grammarly less.

Good luck

 

[StillStunned]

I recently got flagged on a few stories I wrote and used Grammarly to help me edit. Problem is, that some of these stories are fairly long and rewriting them completely takes forever and then deturs from me writing new material. Grammarly saves me a lot of time and doesn't make me wait for someone else to do it for free through the volunteer editors. Has anyone found a way around this? I'd like to plead my case to Laurel & Manu but don't have their emails so I'm not sure what to do...and I'm talking about like 20 stories I've spent 6 months writing.

You're better off doing a poor edit by yourself than using Grammarly. Check out the self-editing thread at the top of this forum for tips. Or at least use a text-to-speech function to help you proofread.

Nobody expects free stories written by amateurs to be perfect. Read your draft for inconsistencies, proofread, publish.

 

[MrPixel]

I call BS.

Oh. Okay. But I'm not sure "BS" is going to pick up the phone, anyway.

"Over a decade..." doesn't count for anything. The screening for AI only started a couple of years ago, and so did the scads of complaints. That you have refined your use of it as a guide is great, but, and shame on me, what my take here is that the OP appears to want Grammarly do the hard and time-consuming work of reviewing and editing, not so much just fix the stray comma or misspelling. @ferretonpills will surely correct me if that assertion is off-base.

Grammarly isn’t designed for creative writing, its designed for business writing.

and

You're better off doing a poor edit by yourself than using Grammarly.

both apply here.

 

[PennyThompson]

I have used Grammarly for over a decade with zero rejections.

Up until about 24 months ago, Grammarly didn't use LLMs to generate text, it was just a slightly more sophisticated spell-checker.

Now it's deeply integrated with generative AI. It will offer to rewrite sentences and paragraphs for clarity or tone, and when it does that it is mechanically identical to ChatGPT.

Some writers here look at Grammarly's suggestions and then choose to make changes (or not) themselves, and they doesn't seem to lead to Lit rejections. But if you let it rewrite your text for you, it very often does get rejected.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

But I'm not sure "BS" is going to pick up the phone, anyway.

Well, you picked up so it went through as intended.

The screening for AI only started a couple of years ago, and so did the scads of complaints.

...and the rejection-free publishing continues while using Grammarly.

my take here is that the OP appears to want Grammarly do the hard and time-consuming work of reviewing and editing

My reply was to your blanket claim that Grammarly equals a rejection for AI. That has been proven untrue and stated as an acceptable us of AI tools in the FAQ on the subject.

Grammarly isn’t designed for creative writing, its designed for business writing.

True if you are going to use it for structural, context, or content changes to the writing. Basic grammar and spelling are not typically going to differ that greatly. There/Their/They're and similar mistakes exists in creative and business writing alike.

You're better off doing a poor edit by yourself than using Grammarly.

Another generalized statement that discounts the type of editing being done. For line editing or better, I would agree. For copy editing or proofreading, it works fine.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I used to use the free Grammarly with no issues and now I use the subscription ProWritingAid with ZERO issues.
BUT, I use(d) them exclusively for typing/spelling errors and comma use. Any wonky sentences that it flags I fix myself.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

Up until about 24 months ago, Grammarly didn't use LLMs to generate text, it was just a slightly more sophisticated spell-checker.

Now it's deeply integrated with generative AI. It will offer to rewrite sentences and paragraphs for clarity or tone, and when it does that it is mechanically identical to ChatGPT.

Some writers here look at Grammarly's suggestions and then choose to make changes (or not) themselves, and they doesn't seem to lead to Lit rejections. But if you let it rewrite your text for you, it very often does get rejected.

I agree, and have clearly stated that allowing Grammarly to identify spelling/grammar errors and then manually correcting them is the only "safe" way to utilize it.

Using it to rewrite anything is a mistake, even just a mis-spelled word.

 

[LegendInMyOwnMind]

I also use Grammarly Pro as indicated above by @EmilyMiller and others above, and have never been rejected. With each submission. I include a note that I have used Grammarly Pro and how I've used it.

 

[ferretonpills]

I've always used Grammarly, why is it all of a sudden flagging me? I've read other threads that sound like it could be a false flag. I'll try resubmitting with the notes of how I use grammarly.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Um, 5000 words isn't terribly long; it's barely a short story.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I've always used Grammarly, why is it all of a sudden flagging me? I've read other threads that sound like it could be a false flag. I'll try resubmitting with the notes of how I use grammarly.

Post in thread 'Stories getting flagged for Grammarly use'
https://forum.literotica.com/thread...gged-for-grammarly-use.1653157/post-102685591

 

[TheWritingGroup]

Um, 5000 words isn't terribly long; it's barely a short story.

Yes. That is what OP said, that they "... aren't too terribly long ..."

 

[anthrodisiac]

Stuff like this is why I keep multiple copies of everything I write. Rough draft, pre-edit or spellcheck. Second draft where I do manual edits and make changes. Third draft where I run it through a spellchecker. That is, of course, assuming everything goes well and I don't engage in further edits during second or third stages. I've had up to 13 draft copies of stories that defied any reasonable attempt to smoothly edit them.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

I believe my record is ... no, I'll actually look.

25 drafts for Pranked: Barbie. That's a short novel, though.

 

[Britva415]

Has anyone found a way around this?

The conventional wisdom says to look at Grammarly's suggested corrections, and then type them yourself instead of letting Grammarly automatically change your text for you.

 

[Trionyx]

Like others, I use it for spelling and grammar, specifically comma useage. I don’t use it for any rewriting.

 

[MicheleNylons]

I continually had stories rejected on the Lush Stories website that had proved popular on other sites, not because of the content, but because of so called 'grammatical errors' and was continually directed to use Grammarly. So I used it and hated it. For one thing, as has been discussed ad infinitum, there are subtle (and less subtle) differences in the English language depending from where you hail.

Although I'm a proud Aussie I have travelled extensively through the US and UK and I set most of my stories there because they appeal to a wider audience and I tend to use the tone and colloquialisms unique to the country where the story is set (although I refuse to write in any other version other than UK English because that is what I was brought up with).

For one thing Grammarly tended to offer suggestions that completely changed the tone and context of what I was trying to express and I was not a fan of the punctuation changes (there IS a place for colons : and semicolons ; not every sentence needs a conjunction, especially when writing speech - I cringe when I talk to anyone who excessively uses and, and, and).

In short, I edit my work multiple times while I'm writing and edit and review before posting. I find leaving the story for a couple of days and then coming back it often provides a fresh perspective. I then review and edit it on Lit before hitting the post button.

As for Lush Stories... I cancelled my membership and removed my profile but somehow it popped up again along with my stories but I no longer post there.

 

[AllenWoody]

I gave up on Grammarly. It wasn't that my work was getting flagged, it was the constant off-the-mark suggestions. I use Google docs, and looking at a paragraph that's just absolutely streaked with corrections is annoying. Plus I felt like half of the corrections that I'd tell it to ignore came back again later when I reloaded the doc so I'd have to go through it all over again.

F that noise.

 

[MillieDynamite]

My meaning is that it wouldn't take a long time to fix whatever needs fixing.

Yes. That is what OP said, that they "... aren't too terribly long ..."

 

[MrHereWriting]

I recently got flagged on a few stories I wrote and used Grammarly to help me edit. Problem is, that some of these stories are fairly long and rewriting them completely takes forever and then deturs from me writing new material. Grammarly saves me a lot of time and doesn't make me wait for someone else to do it for free through the volunteer editors. Has anyone found a way around this? I'd like to plead my case to Laurel & Manu but don't have their emails so I'm not sure what to do...and I'm talking about like 20 stories I've spent 6 months writing.

If you let grammarly write for you, stop doing that. Keep your words and use it for punctuation and grammar and that's it. If you need to rewrite something, rewrite it yourself. The moment you use grammarly's words, phrases, and sentences is the moment you're using AI.