Submission

Arousal is an art……or could be…..arousal is the magical enticement……submission….or dominance….the acting out in novel ways…..oh so many ways !
although submission was my initial way of getting what I need….it’s just the other side of the coin. I love hearing the confessions of the needy.
most of my experiences are with men…occasionally with couples. Novelty…the very first time to a never before act….is so liberating.
Now I’ve learned to break down a forbidden act into multiple parts……the first time…..the first time in public, the first time with people there to watch etc….
Arousal is not a fuckin ‘art’. You use a lot of hyperbole about serving a Master’s or a Lord’s cock. What you think arousal is just instinct. When I walk into my Boozer, I instinctively know who I am going fuck up the arse or fuck up the cunt. This is not a fuckin ‘art’, it's a fuckin instinct. I can smell who wants me to fuck them, both male and female. I mingle and I seek out the chemical mystery of what you posit as ‘arousal’. It is just a need to be dominated by a well-hung man, who knows what a sub needs to do to satisfy his need to empty his balls inside them. Nothing else, nothing more. If you were in my bed, you would know what it means to serve a Lord. All your arty-farty hyperbole would be thrown out the window as you would instinctively want me to fuck you until you were sticking to the bed sheets.
 
Arousal is not a fuckin ‘art’. You use a lot of hyperbole about serving a Master’s or a Lord’s cock. What you think arousal is just instinct. When I walk into my Boozer, I instinctively know who I am going fuck up the arse or fuck up the cunt. This is not a fuckin ‘art’, it's a fuckin instinct. I can smell who wants me to fuck them, both male and female. I mingle and I seek out the chemical mystery of what you posit as ‘arousal’. It is just a need to be dominated by a well-hung man, who knows what a sub needs to do to satisfy his need to empty his balls inside them. Nothing else, nothing more. If you were in my bed, you would know what it means to serve a Lord. All your arty-farty hyperbole would be thrown out the window as you would instinctively want me to fuck you until you were sticking to the bed sheets.
You made me laugh.
 
I am submissive but I need the fight. I can’t, at least for now, see the attraction if an immediate passive engagement. Respect is earned. Surely. On both sides. To break the rules and be punished is right. That’s where the pleasure is. I want that. To be headstrong and broken over time, that is the place of my dark desire. This excites me like nothing else. I need to test and be tested. And let go eventually into a kind of possession. Man, woman it doesn’t matter which. Sex yes, to be taken for pleasure and excess. All of that.

How does this feel? I’m pretty new here.
The amount of initial effort a Dominant wants to exert varies wildly. Just as you (justly) feel that your submission should be earned, a Dominant may wish to see your desire on the surface.

What's the fun in "taming" a submissive that is into the idea of submitting, but not necessarily to you?

It's exactly like a vanilla pairing. There needs to be attraction first, and that attraction has to be mutual.
 
I like what Wordsworth says. Good perspective. In newness I detect some resistance and maybe that’s a kind of braking mechanism… and true there has to be attraction at the beginning. I suspect equally we all let out unconscious signals of our potential and have to hope that we are worth the effort. Thx
 
Is this a fuckin philosophical forum? All this fuckin ‘nice talk’ is pure crap. You all sound like a granny’s dried-up cunt with all your fuckin pseudo analysis. Admit it, if you knew a sub was aching for a swift and hard fuck, all your fuckin analysis would be fuckin don't out and you would have him on his fuckin knees ready to suck yer fuckin covk. That’s what happens. All your bourgeoise fuckin talk is a fuckin sham, because you would be up his arse as fast as a rat up a drain pipe. Admit it.
 
Is this a fuckin philosophical forum? All this fuckin ‘nice talk’ is pure crap. You all sound like a granny’s dried-up cunt with all your fuckin pseudo analysis. Admit it, if you knew a sub was aching for a swift and hard fuck, all your fuckin analysis would be fuckin don't out and you would have him on his fuckin knees ready to suck yer fuckin covk. That’s what happens. All your bourgeoise fuckin talk is a fuckin sham, because you would be up his arse as fast as a rat up a drain pipe. Admit it.
Yes...good. Release your anger!
Only then will you know the power of the Dark Side of the Force!

In all seriousness though, dude... you might want to turn the "Bad Attitude Thermostat" down a notch or two. I really don't see any reason why the post above yours should have ruffled your feathers to the degree that it seemed to.
 
I'm a switch...
I've never understood the submissive, "brat", however.
I like pleasing my Daddy or my Dom...
And I need my subs to do just that, submit. Fully, after vetting of course... But I enjoy a total submissive man...
But, to each their own.
The submissive brat is a contradiction.

I have been a slave since October 2020.
My Master is amazing. So sometimes, like 4x a year I do something bratty for the punishment.
 
The submissive brat is a contradiction.

People are complex and so is life.
Expecting total logic when it comes to human emotions and behaviour, tends to end in confusion.

I think brattiness catches a lot of flack for being unclear and confusing and even dishonest and respectless. For some though, this is just their style of play because that works for their sense of humour and playfulness.
I think it is totally unproblematic as long as both are aware - informed consent for the win.
 
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People are complex and so is life.
Expecting total logic when it comes to human emotions and behaviour, tends to end in confusion.

I think battiness catches a lot of flack for being unclear and confusing and even dishonest and respectless. For some though, this is just their style of play because that works for their sense of humour and playfulness.
I think it is totally unproblematic as long as both are aware - informed consent for the win.
For me, brattiness is deliberate. I am not typically sarcastic or bratty in my daily life.
 
For me, brattiness is deliberate. I am not typically sarcastic or bratty in my daily life.

Yes, and I still don’t see how that needs to be bad as long as the involved partners are aware of the dynamic and consent.
 
Yes...good. Release your anger!
Only then will you know the power of the Dark Side of the Force!

In all seriousness though, dude... you might want to turn the "Bad Attitude Thermostat" down a notch or two. I really don't see any reason why the post above yours should have ruffled your feathers to the degree that it seemed to.
Because he’s a total arse - all of his posts are rude and belligerent 🤷‍♂️
 
I think for a goo D/S relationship both have to trust and actually care for each other. It's important that the Dom/Domme know the Sub's needs and limitations, if any and that they are what the dominant partner likes as well.
 
this sums sup my online experience.
Throwing in with a Domme who assumed I knew the dynamic. Did not express the need for mutual respect and trust.
My IRL experiences are 'forced trust'. If my online Domme had clearly expressed parameters, the how and why, I think we could have had a cool long term virtual 'thing'.
Which in my life stage and situation is ideal.

I can always signal RED with a IRL D.. Its a given. But the thought of abandoning my physical being to a person is intense.

But in not doing so [.e shouting red] I transfer the power to the paid to play D.
Paid for irl - was Instructive and OMG so powerful in terms of release when granted, but ultimately hollow. As its a show. Nothing more.

What I crave is the mutual fun I had with the online D. No fees, just her delicious torment and tasking, all ATHER pleasure and AT HER timing. That I understand now.
This pay to play shit is in the end hollow.
Whereas She/online D got off on my suffering, I was rewarded for pleasing her. I miss her. You never know a good thing until its gone is an old saying lol. Maybe one day she will see this and let me back into her fold of Subs. I understand so much more now.
Miss u Mistress D.
 
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Recently, I was approached by a sub. She introduced herself by adding that she has a bratty streak, sub though she is. I love that. I love that he has it and that she told me. It adds flavor to the mix.
 
I find a man who is very dominant IRL sexy as hell when they trust me enough to submiss to me..
The more dominant they are, (and I have had the pleasure of getting to know some amazingly sexy Dom's) the more turned on I am by their submissive side..
If a dominant submits to another. I’d say the dominant is not totally dominant. A switch yes. As they are part of both sides of the play.
 
The submissive brat is a contradiction.

I have been a slave since October 2020.
My Master is amazing. So sometimes, like 4x a year I do something bratty for the punishment.
I see brat being a brat for the punishment. My thinking. Why give them what they want? Do they really want punishment or funishment?
If they brat to say get spanked. If it’s to be punishment. Then why reward the bad behavior with something they want. If it’s to be punishment and they’re looking for physical punishment. That’s a reward. Give them a mental punishment or corner time.
 
I see brat being a brat for the punishment. My thinking. Why give them what they want? Do they really want punishment or funishment?
If they brat to say get spanked. If it’s to be punishment. Then why reward the bad behavior with something they want. If it’s to be punishment and they’re looking for physical punishment. That’s a reward. Give them a mental punishment or corner time.
As the Dom, the choice is yours.
How you respond to the brat is for you to determine.

My Master has done both. And it appears his decision is based on what will give him the most pleasure at that time.
I live to serve.
 
when i was 18 i was makeing out with a guy . it was at a party and he had my top lifted i knew my boobs where exsposed but i did nt mind then another guy started feeling my leg. no one seamed to care so i just gave in later he took me home and had sex with me in front of 2 buddies then ask me to take them 2 i did.
it was crazy we did alot of sexual things that night is that normal
You sound very much like my girlfriend now my wife. She is very submissive and likes to be told what to do. She told me when she was in high school she was staying at her aunt and uncles house and one night she saw her aunt laying over her uncles lap and he pulled down her panties and spread her ass checks apart. He told her to say nasty things about sucking other guys cocks and being used by his friends. She said she also saw her aunt giving head to two guys at once while laying over the uncles lap and then he held her will they took her from behind. She told me that she thought that was natural and the way a women should have sex. We now practice this all the time and she will lay over my lap and I will pull down her panties and spread her ass in front of my friends. I have attached a photo that one of my friends took.
 

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this sums sup my online experience.
Throwing in with a Domme who assumed I knew the dynamic. Did not express the need for mutual respect and trust.
My IRL experiences are 'forced trust'. If my online Domme had clearly expressed parameters, the how and why, I think we could have had a cool long term virtual 'thing'.
Which in my life stage and situation is ideal.

I can always signal RED with a IRL D.. Its a given. But the thought of abandoning my physical being to a person is intense.

But in not doing so [.e shouting red] I transfer the power to the paid to play D.
Paid for irl - was Instructive and OMG so powerful in terms of release when granted, but ultimately hollow. As its a show. Nothing more.

What I crave is the mutual fun I had with the online D. No fees, just her delicious torment and tasking, all ATHER pleasure and AT HER timing. That I understand now.
This pay to play shit is in the end hollow.
Whereas She/online D got off on my suffering, I was rewarded for pleasing her. I miss her. You never know a good thing until its gone is an old saying lol. Maybe one day she will see this and let me back into her fold of Subs. I understand so much more now.
Miss u Mistress D.
As a follow up here. I did another session. used TENS units, both on my penis and anally. That was a new one. These are expensive lessons $ wise, but exploring some boundaries and new sensations is pretty awesome. If I ever find a new Domme to be online with I'll have so much more to explore!
 
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