Take THAT Ladies

[pariste74656]

Contrary to what sexually empowering shows of the past few decades (eg: Sex in the City) may lead you to believe. Women do not crave sex as much as men.

Now I am not trying to take society back to the days where we believed that women were incapable of enjoying sex.

Rather I am stating medical facts.

Men have more testosterone than women, testosterone makes you horny, thus men are hornier than women. Women with higher levels of testosterone do have a tendency to have higher sex drives, however high testosterone levels in women are a key sign of poor health.

So where did all this "women love sex as much as men come from?"

Well women enjoy sex once they are turned on and ready to partake in the act. This is why foreplay is so important. Women do enjoy sex once they are turned on. Women can acheive more powerful orgasms than men. But to say women are as or more horny than men, or to expect them to be, is foolish.

Prior to shows like "Sex and the City" and other shows with similiar themes, women who enjoyed sex were thought to be deviants. Whores, sluts, promiscuous, etc., etc., etc.,

Shows like these, and others dating back as early as the 60's or 70's gave women the ability to say "yes I do enjoy sex" without feeling as though there was something wrng with them.

 

[cloudy]

yeah, right, whatever. I'm sure you know way more about my sex drive than I do.

 

[SweetErika]

Contrary to what sexually empowering shows of the past few decades (eg: Sex in the City) may lead you to believe. Women do not crave sex as much as men.

Now I am not trying to take society back to the days where we believed that women were incapable of enjoying sex.

Rather I am stating medical facts.

Men have more testosterone than women, testosterone makes you horny, thus men are hornier than women. Women with higher levels of testosterone do have a tendency to have higher sex drives, however high testosterone levels in women are a key sign of poor health.

So where did all this "women love sex as much as men come from?"

Well women enjoy sex once they are turned on and ready to partake in the act. This is why foreplay is so important. Women do enjoy sex once they are turned on. Women can acheive more powerful orgasms than men. But to say women are as or more horny than men, or to expect them to be, is foolish.

Prior to shows like "Sex and the City" and other shows with similiar themes, women who enjoyed sex were thought to be deviants. Whores, sluts, promiscuous, etc., etc., etc.,

Shows like these, and others dating back as early as the 60's or 70's gave women the ability to say "yes I do enjoy sex" without feeling as though there was something wrng with them.

So your point is, what, exactly? To share your latest theory on why your wife/gf doesn't want to fuck you? To make yourself look foolish with generalizations? To get revenge on the women who claim they're horny, but then won't give you sex? To incite discussion?

Some men are hornier than some women. Some women are hornier than some men. Some people are just not horny at all, and others are horny constantly.

Those are facts. Your post contains a few facts and LOTS of supposition, generalizations, opinions and some fallacies.

 

[reignophelia]

yeah, right, whatever. I'm sure you know way more about my sex drive than I do.

I heart Cloudy today.

Sir I will bet you one american dollar that I masturbate at least 3x more than you do, and enjoy it a hellofalot more than you do.
While still being in good health of course.

I'm totally feeling the "woman envy" and misogyny here.

You're so jealous.

I know you are.

And when you become a woman, I just may take your statement seriously...
If you haven't changed your mind.

 

[Mazuri]

But to say women are as or more horny than men, or to expect them to be, is foolish.

Not as foolish as making sweeping generalizations

 

[Eilan]

Struck out on the Personals Board, huh?

 

[BiBunny]

I've met one man who can even come close to keeping up with me. Even he's said that if I lived with him all the time, he'd have to keep two or three male slaves to keep me satisfied. Every man I've ever dated has accused me of using him for sex, a good cop-out for when they can't handle me anymore. So, yeah, I call bullshit.

 

[cele2flowers]

I've been accused of missing points occasionally. I've definitely missed the point on this one. You seem to be talking in circles with no definite conclusion. Maybe you could go back, organize your thoughts and come back with a MEDICALLY BACKED thesis to prove this illogical theory of your's.

 

[Nastygirl6T9]

You keep right on thinking that.

 

[CutieMouse]

Interesting view there...

Contrary to what sexually empowering shows of the past few decades (eg: Sex in the City) may lead you to believe. Women do not crave sex as much as men.
Now I am not trying to take society back to the days where we believed that women were incapable of enjoying sex.

Rather I am stating medical facts.

Men have more testosterone than women, testosterone makes you horny, thus men are hornier than women. Women with higher levels of testosterone do have a tendency to have higher sex drives, however high testosterone levels in women are a key sign of poor health.

So where did all this "women love sex as much as men come from?"

Well women enjoy sex once they are turned on and ready to partake in the act. This is why foreplay is so important. Women do enjoy sex once they are turned on. Women can acheive more powerful orgasms than men. But to say women are as or more horny than men, or to expect them to be, is foolish.

Prior to shows like "Sex and the City" and other shows with similiar themes, women who enjoyed sex were thought to be deviants. Whores, sluts, promiscuous, etc., etc., etc.,

Shows like these, and others dating back as early as the 60's or 70's gave women the ability to say "yes I do enjoy sex" without feeling as though there was something wrong with them.

Actually, it is possible for women to crave sex as much as men, without having a hormone imbalance; to suggest that testosterone (alone) causes one to become aroused and desire sex, is simplistic to the point of laughable.

Your argument that women need to be turned on to enjoy sex is also a bit amusing, as I've never seen a man succesfully engage in a sexual act, with a limp dick.

If you bother to do the research (I suggest a book called Nymphomania: A History), you will find that the persons who dreamed up the idea that women who were interested in sex were deviants, was created by men. The concept that women who enjoyed sex were whores and sluts was created by? Men. The term nymphomania? Coined by men.

At the turn of the century, case studies were done, describing "symptoms" of [sexual] illness. The same "symptoms" were given for both male and female patients... across the board, women were diagnosed with nymphomania (for atrocities such as having an orgasm), while men were diagnosed as being perfectly healthy, with no sexual dysfunction whatsoever.

In a similar vein, there are legal statues (impacting the definition of obscenity with regards to newspaper publications) going back to the 1830s in which conservative religious organizations argue that educating women about their mesntrual cycle, pregnancy, contraception, and ways to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, would lead to out of control promiscuity amongst women. The reason given? Society must protect women from sex, because if they were fully informed they would want it as much as men, take control of their own sexuality, and it would destroy the family unit/foundation of society. (A fascinating study of the true sexual politics of the 19th century can be found in Re-Reading Sex.)

Women often do desire sex as much (or more) than men; if a woman feels something is "wrong" with her for doing so, or that she must play out the first half of the Madonna/whore complex lest she be judged, I would say that is mostly on the heads of the male half of the species...

 

[pariste74656]

Hey

Thank you CM. It's refreshing to find someone who can be critical without being insulting about it, and I appreciate that. Your reply is the first that's not attacking me as a person. You are of course welcome to attack opinions. I thank you for that little bit of respect.

Others could learn from your example, and from what I've read so far most seemingly need to.

These opinions may be generalities. They may even be outdated or otherwise incorrect. That by itself doesn't mean that there isn't SOME merit to them. As any intelligent being ought to know, I don't know but very few women's sexual drives. Of course I know that everyone is different.

I'll have to be more careful what I might put out in the future. Some rather ignorant people seem to think that I have some mental problems or are some degenerate person, when in fact I have a bit of experience in life also.

 

[midwestyankee]

Interesting view there...



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Your argument that women need to be turned on to enjoy sex is also a bit amusing, as I've never seen a man succesfully engage in a sexual act, with a limp dick.

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Actually, CM my friend, the OP was a fuck job performed with a limp mind. Does that count?

 

[CutieMouse]

Thank you CM. It's refreshing to find someone who can be critical without being insulting about it, and I appreciate that. Your reply is the first that's not attacking me as a person. You are of course welcome to attack opinions. I thank you for that little bit of respect.

Others could learn from your example, and from what I've read so far most seemingly need to.

These opinions may be generalities. They may even be outdated or otherwise incorrect. That by itself doesn't mean that there isn't SOME merit to them. As any intelligent being ought to know, I don't know but very few women's sexual drives. Of course I know that everyone is different.

I'll have to be more careful what I might put out in the future. Some rather ignorant people seem to think that I have some mental problems or are some degenerate person, when in fact I have a bit of experience in life also.

No offense, but you made some seriously insulting and ignorant statements in your opening post; you deserved the bitch-slap. The fact that I bitch-slapped you so elegantly that you thanked me for it, well... that's kinda my specialty.

 

[CutieMouse]

Actually, CM my friend, the OP was a fuck job performed with a limp mind. Does that count?

You know, it isn't very nice to make a lady spit iced tea all over her keyboard like that...

 

[pariste74656]

I guess I'll leave it that then, and just take the bitch slapping.

Just understand one thing: I was not attempting to insult anyone. I like to think I'm a gentleman, and most of my female friends would agree. So much so that my male friends think I'm whipped.

 

[midwestyankee]

You know, it isn't very nice to make a lady spit iced tea all over her keyboard like that...

Well, friend, my most humble apologies. But perhaps it's not wise to drink sweetened liquids when cavorting amongst the HT threads.

 

[CutieMouse]

I guess I'll leave it that then, and just take the bitch slapping.

Just understand one thing: I was not attempting to insult anyone. I like to think I'm a gentleman, and most of my female friends would agree. So much so that my male friends think I'm whipped.

I'm sure you're a lovely person, but defending broad sweeping statements as fact, as if you have been touched by the hand of God and know the Truth <insert echo> is kind of a sure fire way to piss people off. Had you said this was your opinion based on personal experience, or asked why it was so common to run into women who weren't as interested in sex as you (or men you knew), or respectfully asked why women (in general) seemed conflicted about enjoying sex with the same attitude as men - you'd probably have gotten a very different (and more respectufl, intillectual, debateable)response.

 

[CutieMouse]

Well, friend, my most humble apologies. But perhaps it's not wise to drink sweetened liquids when cavorting amongst the HT threads.

Sweet tea? SWEET TEA?

Eeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!

I got to Texas as quickly as I could, but my parents were Yankees, and sweet tea was a huge no no in my house growing up. I drink Sun Tea - ½ raspberry zinger with hibiscus and rose hips, ½ green tea, thin sliver of lemon.

 

[pariste74656]

And for the record, I wasn't defending the statements I made. Just myself personally. The statements are fodder for discussion, whereas what kind of person I am is not.

 

[reignophelia]

And for the record, I wasn't defending the statements I made. Just myself personally. The statements are fodder for discussion, whereas what kind of person I am is not.

Me thinks someone got their panties in a bunch. Well, I guess you're not interested in losing that dollar. *Sigh*

If you were upset by anything I said, please know that most of what I say is in jest.

Yes, you were bitch slapped by all of us, but I like to slap gently at first.

for your boo-boo.

 

[cloudy]

And for the record, I wasn't defending the statements I made. Just myself personally. The statements are fodder for discussion, whereas what kind of person I am is not.

I never attacked *you* - I basically said that what you said was bullshit, and I'll stand by that.

I don't know you, and don't particularly care to, given that you seem to think that your view and what you've seen is all there is to the world, and to women.

 

[pariste74656]

Wow. When did I say that my opinion is the only thing that mattered, or that anyone in particular attacked me personally? I did not do either. All I did was toss something out to talk about.

 

[pariste74656]

Did I say something in some language that I don't know about?

 

[reignophelia]

Wow. When did I say that my opinion is the only thing that mattered, or that anyone in particular attacked me personally? I did not do either. All I did was toss something out to talk about.

"Thank you CM. It's refreshing to find someone who can be critical without being insulting about it, and I appreciate that. Your reply is the first that's not attacking me as a person."

"Some rather ignorant people seem to think that I have some mental problems or are some degenerate person, when in fact I have a bit of experience in life also."

"And for the record, I wasn't defending the statements I made. Just myself personally. The statements are fodder for discussion, whereas what kind of person I am is not."

Is your name Sybil by any chance?

LOL

Look if you're going to be throwing around accusations that the opinionated folks here are ignorant just because they don't agree with you, then we're going to feel like you're talking about us individually.

But I don't think you're that naive. Where did you come from? The GB? Please stop trolling around here, and before you start whining about how you're not a troll, let's refresh our memory as to what you named this thread in the first place.

 

[pariste74656]

I stand corrected and I apologize for that. It was more defensive than was necessary.

I did have in mind a couple of the other posts. Yours was not one of the personally insulting ones, and I hope you'll accept my apology to you.

I should have been a bit more specific with the things I said so as not to ruffle so many feathers. I was just trying to be too cute.